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[thesuperdarkone2]

If you're interested in seeing how a side character can become so powerful through the influence of a thousand fangirls, simply visit the Ser Barris thread and witness history in the making. Similar starts to the Cullenite movement. Ser Barris the templar romance in DA5 confirmed. I'd put money on it. 

Too bad he can die in the Templar mission and will is most likely killed if you side with the mages. Considering a majority of players will likely side with the mages, most will likely never even see him again. Also, that thread seems more like a pro-templar circlejerk thread where templar supporters basically stay in an echo chamber how they think they're right since the templars were the bad choice in the last games and now they latch onto him since apparently every other good templar like Thrask or Evangeline don't count. I wonder how many would still support him if he was publicly pro-mage.

[Penguin]

There are many reasons one character become more important, popularity is the major one. And there is nothing wrong with that. Because you have to be a good character first to even have fandom. Fans don't magically create good character, they push it to become better.

No writer would be like: hey, here is a character that nobody like, nobody care and nobody remember, let's give him/her more screen time. But whether the popularity stick is really depends on character itself.

It's like job interview, you might get the job because they like your story, your look, your charm, but if they give you promotion after you work there for a year, usually means you are good at what you do. This is not only true in games but also in TV shows, comics, movies and books.

Cullen made into DA 2 then into DAI, each time with more important role because he was a good character and keep getting better.

[Icinix]

Fans.

[Killdren88]

This. That's not saying he's a bad character. But his origin (pun intended) is fan service and he grew from there.

 

I just refuse to believe he has the chops to be my adviser. That I wanted to kill him with Extreme prejudice as my Rogue Hawke for taking Bethany. I was denied satisfaction, and then he has the gall to act like we are friends. I was disappointed I couldn't gut him in Act 3.

[Lady Artifice]

Not just Fangirls...

 

Fanboys, too. 

[Panda]

Bioware likes bringing characters back and using them in many games. Merrill and Isabela both were random in DAO but companions in DA2. DAI has dozen characters from previous games and from novels. It's easier for BW to reuse characters and it's good for immersion too. I wouldn't like if the new games always had only new characters, it wouldn't feel like game series anymore.

[Camenae]

Cullen is a prime example of character development done well. I mean thinking back on the previous games versus now, he's really come a long way.

The way he is now, I very much admire him for how well he's weathered what he's been through. God knows how long he was tortured before the Warden went (back) to the Circle and found him. Yet he's not all like, woe is me, I've been through too much and now I can do whatever and it'll be justified because of my traumatic past. No, he does what he says and says what he'll do. A rare quality both in game and out.

Yet he wasn't always like this. In Origins he's a jerk and a pansy at the same time. However I think his original, sometimes unsavory views on mages are simply the result of a young man parroting what he's been indoctrinated with from a very young age. Still I found him to be an interesting and complex character, because you wouldn't expect someone who literally runs away when a girl hits on him to be able to pull through days/weeks of magical torture and mind rape. Yet he did and came out mostly intact it seems. Respect.

I very much enjoyed watching his character's growth, from a stuttering, fanatical young guy who wouldn't know which way is up unless the Templars told him, to a confident military commander who holds firm to his own ideals and carries them out but not flashy and annoying about it.

[Carmen_Willow]

Cullen's character had room to grow, and grow he did. Over three games he has matured into a truly badass lawful good kinda guy. Who doesn't want a self-deprecating paladin who can wield a mighty sword, conquer a drug addiction and lead an army assaulting a keep?

 

He had the same potential that Alistair did in the first game. The potential to mature into a truly awesome guy. Unfortunately for Alistair, he had to go off and be king or warden or drunk. Someone had to fill those empty shoes. 

 

Some of us hoped it would be Nathaniel, but he kinda got left behind with the Sebastian thing (bad move, Bioware).

 

Glad Cullen stayed around, grew up and found his inner badass.

[Cerulione]

I just refuse to believe he has the chops to be my adviser. That I wanted to kill him with Extreme prejudice as my Rogue Hawke for taking Bethany. I was denied satisfaction, and then he has the gall to act like we are friends. I was disappointed I couldn't gut him in Act 3.

 

He's doing his job to bring Bethany to the circle. He's bringing her to the circle so that she can get trained properly & protected, not beheading her.

 

Even if Bethany's already get properly trained by his father, most apostates get none & is dangerous to themselves as well as people around them. Cullen just did what he is supposed to do. He's not branding her to Tranquility.

[gothicshark]

He's had constant growth, sure he was random cute Templar trainee in DA:O but he's come so far since then.

u haz gurl avi

And I'm a tarrasque on a blimp.

[mireisen]

Cullen is a prime example of character development done well. I mean thinking back on the previous games versus now, he's really come a long way.

The way he is now, I very much admire him for how well he's weathered what he's been through. God knows how long he was tortured before the Warden went (back) to the Circle and found him. Yet he's not all like, woe is me, I've been through too much and now I can do whatever and it'll be justified because of my traumatic past. No, he does what he says and says what he'll do. A rare quality both in game and out.

Yet he wasn't always like this. In Origins he's a jerk and a pansy at the same time. However I think his original, sometimes unsavory views on mages are simply the result of a young man parroting what he's been indoctrinated with from a very young age. Still I found him to be an interesting and complex character, because you wouldn't expect someone who literally runs away when a girl hits on him to be able to pull through days/weeks of magical torture and mind rape. Yet he did and came out mostly intact it seems. Respect.

I very much enjoyed watching his character's growth, from a stuttering, fanatical young guy who wouldn't know which way is up unless the Templars told him, to a confident military commander who holds firm to his own ideals and carries them out but not flashy and annoying about it.

 

Agree. If you've ever been around manipulative people, it takes a lot of strength and mental fortitude to endure and survive that.

 

Cullen's always been that touchstone (bwahaha touch haha) of sanity in the series. I respected him more when he said that it was his chosen burden to get off lyrium addiction. You get instant respect from me when I hear people buckling down their problems and doing something about it instead of whining.

[Dominari]

If you're interested in seeing how a side character can become so powerful through the influence of a thousand fangirls, simply visit the Ser Barris thread and witness history in the making.

Oh, like fanbois are not fauning all over Harding at all ...

[Renmiri1]

It started with single flirt option in origins. Then fan explosion happened which was something like with this Barris guy now.

what Barris guy ?

 

Ban Teagan also had fangirls in DAO but it never went anywhere.

 

And I loved Duncan, wanted my circle mage to flirt with him. now we get Duncan II (Blackwall)

[zestalyn]

By the end of DA2, he was essentially the most prominent and multi-faceted templar character to have ever been given to us in the series. It was only natural he had become even more so by Inquisition. It makes sense they would have atleast 1 character that represents the templar presence and point of view in this game.

 

Who else would that have been if not Cullen, and someone who could have been as nearly well developed? I don't even remember who this Gorim is that OP mentioned lol. 

[Panda]

what Barris guy ?

 

Ban Teagan also had fangirls in DAO but it never went anywhere.

 

And I loved Duncan, wanted my circle mage to flirt with him. now we get Duncan II (Blackwall)

 

Well he's not totally forgotten either, he was in the Masked Empire and I believe he's in DAI as well?

[LaughingBanana]

Because he had the potential to be an important character, given his history. He literally witnessed the whole mage x templar conflict from its very beginning and took an active role in it.

 

What role?

 

Crying inside a cage and be mad at everybody?

[Wolfen09]

By the end of DA2, he was essentially the most prominent and multi-faceted templar character to have ever been given to us in the series. It was only natural he had become even more so by Inquisition. It makes sense they would have atleast 1 character that represents the templar presence and point of view in this game.

 

Who else would that have been if not Cullen, and someone who could have been as nearly well developed? I don't even remember who this Gorim is that OP mentioned lol. 

 

Gorim?  You dont know gorim?!  Dwarven crafts, fine dwarven crafts!  Nothing?!  Gorim was the 2nd of the noble dwarf warden, but because the warden was to be "exiled," Gorim got the surfacer dwarf sentence.  He finally became a merchant selling "Dwarven crafts, fine dwarven crafts direct from orzammar!"

[New Kid]

The 'Cullenites' I believe are responsible for that. I was angry at first because I believed there were thousands more capable than him. But Bioware poured a big ole jar of likeable sauce over him and made him the guy all the fan-faction made him out to be haha.