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[Blue_Shayde]

Idk it did feel mmo-esque... Cause normally you make your character then are tossed right into the action, because that is an mmo and doesn't need a back story... To start a rpg like that is just boring and lame. Would of loved to be in my trevelyan family home a day before the conclave or so. Also it was generic and bland, dialogue wise... Why would they start the game like this, I loved the origins in DA:O. They started the story as to why you had to become a grey warden. I loved the City Elf one, saved your future wife  I kind of murdered all the humans in that castle. Lolol

Ooooh, I remember that. I loved when the guards came for you and Duncan conscripted you, and you got to choose to say something to the guards. I totally chose the "Hah! Can't touch me!"

 

Then proceeded to dance in my seat for five minutes singing "Can't touch this".

 

 

 

Really do miss the sense of connection. It was fun going 'home' in DAO as a Warden. It would be great to interact with your family/clan/mercenary group as an Inquisitor...and not through a war table operation.

[Kantr]

They're mutually exclusive?

Well Other races were added last year. So I guess they decided that wasnt enough time to create diverse origin stories.

[DaemionMoadrin]

Well Other races were added last year. So I guess they decided that wasnt enough time to create diverse origin stories.

 

The old BioWare would have taken the time to present a complete game at release. Now... meh.

[TristynTrine]

Ooooh, I remember that. I loved when the guards came for you and Duncan conscripted you, and you got to choose to say something to the guards. I totally chose the "Hah! Can't touch me!"

 

Then proceeded to dance in my seat for five minutes singing "Can't touch this".

 

 

 

Really do miss the sense of connection. It was fun going 'home' in DAO as a Warden. It would be great to interact with your family/clan/mercenary group as an Inquisitor...and not through a war table operation.

I did the honorable thing and took all the blame for my friend. Him and his wife better still be alive,

[Kantr]

The old BioWare would have taken the time to present a complete game at release. Now... meh.

What is this old Bioware? David Gaider and Mike were around for Origins.

[Blue_Shayde]

I did the honorable thing and took all the blame for my friend. Him and his wife better still be alive,

I don't know. When you come back again, they are all suffering from a disease and half are being stolen by slave traders from tevinter.

[TristynTrine]

I don't know. When you come back again, they are all suffering from a disease and half are being stolen by slave traders from tevinter.

Aw poor guy, lol

[Mirth]

The Origin 'part' of Origins really set the mood for the game and allowed you to effectively bond/relate/create your character.

 

I started up DA:I thinking something similar was going to happen, after all this was the game they'd always wanted to create.  I hadn't realized they were just talking about pretty graphics.

 

DAI is a beautiful game, but it's pretty clear Bioware will never be able to capture the pure awesome-sauce that was "Origins", ever again.

Hell... I'm probably going to finish my 2nd play through DAI, shelf it, and go back re-install Origins, download a boat load of mods, and play that one again.. for the 8th time.

[Blue_Shayde]

The Origin 'part' of Origins really set the mood for the game and allowed you to effectively bond/relate/create your character.

 

I started up DA:I thinking something similar was going to happen, after all this was the game they'd always wanted to create.  I hadn't realized they were just talking about pretty graphics.

 

DAI is a beautiful game, but it's pretty clear Bioware will never be able to capture the pure awesome-sauce that was "Origins", ever again.

Hell... I'm probably going to finish my 2nd play through DAI, shelf it, and go back re-install Origins, download a boat load of mods, and play that one again.. for the 8th time.

 

Heh...the more I've been playing DAI, the more I want to set it to the side and re-install DA2 and DAO for another playthrough of both. Sad, huh?

 

I mean, even DA2 gave us a bit of background and character building with Hawke before we reached Kirkwall and fell into chaos. The most I had in DAI was the paragraph of text after choosing my race, gender, and class.

 

I still would like maybe a dlc that turns the events of Adamant and the fade to you actually flashbacking in your memories and playing those few days up till the destruction of the Temple. That would be cool. Though it doesn't make up for just rushing into the game.

 

I really want to be able to interact with my Dalish clan in person, instead of a war table operation. I really enjoyed revisiting my home in DAO after the origins lead in.

 

I still struggle at times finding my place. I'm a Dalish Elf mage...do I only support elves? Do I support mages? Why do I act like I know their pain when I do? Why does my Dalish elf swear using Andraste's name? Why am I in these pajamas? I'm so confused!

[JaneF]

Really should have had some prologue and explanation as too why my character was at the conclave, to build up the relationship to the character, and feel connected I know there's some codex, but that just seems lazy..A bit like the overall game if am honest.

 

The variety of story lines we had in DA:O for our starting characters was fantastic, and really felt I was playing an Elf or Dwarf who are from a unique culture in the world, as opposed to someone who just looks a bit different in DA:I.

[Sylvius the Mad]

I disliked the origins from the moment they were announced. I much prefer a blank slate PC rather than being restricted to playing one of six they've written.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Really should have had some prologue and explanation as too why my character was at the conclave, to build up the relationship to the character, and feel connected I know there's some codex, but that just seems lazy..

I headcanoned it

Headcanon is better.

[DaemionMoadrin]

What is this old Bioware? David Gaider and Mike were around for Origins.

 

That doesn't mean they can't fail. Or that they still have the same creative input as back then. Hell, it would be enough to run into writer's block with a deadline approaching, so they present something mediocre instead of getting enough time to deliver their best.

 

DA:O was released 5 years ago, do you believe a company like BioWare wouldn't change in that time? Change isn't bad, DA:I has lots of improvements ... but it is lacking in a few key areas and that's what upsets people.

 

Honestly, if I didn't want to know how the Dragon Age story continues, then I wouldn't have bought DA:I. As a standalone it's not good enough to compete with Skyrim, The Witcher or DA:O and DA2.

 

Shiny but empty.

[Blue_Shayde]

I disliked the origins from the moment they were announced. I much prefer a blank slate PC rather than being restricted to playing one of six they've written.

But...they were a blank slate in a way. It was a lead-up to where you came from, and allowed you to decide how your character talks, reacts, and views the world before being pulled into the main story. It, for me, at least allowed me to establish the kind of personality my character would have. Also gave me a deeper connection to that little part of the world. It wasn't some random Dalish clan. It was my clan, my family, my people. The Dalish clan being attacked by werewolves were my people...a fellow traveling clan. It wasn't some dwarven kingdom in the mountains. It was my home falling apart. The elves in the alienage, sick with disease and being quietly sold to Tevinters? Those were my friends. Etc...

[saladinbob]

Part of the problem with Inquisition's prologue is that you're far too readily accepted as part of the Inquisition. You go from public enemy number one and suspect of the biggest murder since the first blight, to saviour of the people and member of the Inquisition all on the strength of some disembodied voices and a vision from the fade; you know, that place that everyone distrusts and according to Solas, has no truth. Whilst being accepted you should have had to earn the trust of the rest of the Inquisition and the people because there should have been lingering distrust. It all felt too contrived, too convenient.

[Blue_Shayde]

Part of the problem with Inquisition's prologue is that you're far too readily accepted as part of the Inquisition. You go from public enemy number one and suspect of the biggest murder since the first blight, to saviour of the people and member of the Inquisition all on the strength of some disembodied voices and a vision from the fade; you know, that place that everyone distrusts and according to Solas, has no truth. Whilst being accepted you should have had to earn the trust of the rest of the Inquisition and the people because there should have been lingering distrust. It all felt too contrived, too convenient.

And to shoved down your throat if you are playing a non-Andrastian character.

 

But faith IS a powerful thing. Its led people to believe the world is ending and give their entire life savings to a so-called profit. (actually happened here in US. a guy gave his life savings to the guy who was claiming he'd seen the world ending in 2012)

 

Its led people in real life to commit mass-suicides. So...I guess humans are just really gullible or really scared and willing to believe? Or people desperate for proof of Andraste and the Maker's existence? I mean, there are skeptical people that you meet. Many of the higher ranked people in the world are suspicious of you, while its the under-educated farmers and peasant folk who readily believe.

[Xralius]

Origins is 100x better than this game. I can tell you about origins inside and out, but I've grinded through Inquidition and there's nothing here worth talking about or thinking about. All we wanted was a true sequel to Origins. I will never buy another Bioware game without thoroughly researching/testing it.

[Sylvius the Mad]

That doesn't mean they can't fail. Or that they still have the same creative input as back then. Hell, it would be enough to run into writer's block with a deadline approaching, so they present something mediocre instead of getting enough time to deliver their best.

DA:O was released 5 years ago, do you believe a company like BioWare wouldn't change in that time? Change isn't bad, DA:I has lots of improvements ... but it is lacking in a few key areas and that's what upsets people.

Honestly, if I didn't want to know how the Dragon Age story continues, then I wouldn't have bought DA:I. As a standalone it's not good enough to compete with Skyrim, The Witcher or DA:O and DA2.

Shiny but empty.

We don't all like the same things.

I couldn't tolerate The Witcher for long enough to see any of the story. The combat was appalling.

DA2 is easily the worst BioWare game. Even worse than ME2, a game so bad I didn't even consider playing its sequel.

I've been waiting for years for BioWare to make a game like Baldur's Gate again (not BG2 - I don't really like BG2), and now finally they've done it. It's spectacular.

[Darkly Tranquil]

I couldn't tolerate The Witcher for long enough to see any of the story. The combat was appalling.

Actually Witcher 2's combat was really good, but it was very different from most games and took a while to get a handle on. Once you did, however, it was really very enjoyable. I would take Witcher 2's combat over the mess in DAI any day.

[Fast Jimmy]

I've been waiting for years for BioWare to make a game like Baldur's Gate again (not BG2 - I don't really like BG2), and now finally they've done it. It's spectacular.

 

Does the game adhere by the same non-linearity as BG? Or were you just referring to its lack of requirement that you play the main narrative?

[DaemionMoadrin]

We don't all like the same things.

I couldn't tolerate The Witcher for long enough to see any of the story. The combat was appalling.

DA2 is easily the worst BioWare game. Even worse than ME2, a game so bad I didn't even consider playing its sequel.

I've been waiting for years for BioWare to make a game like Baldur's Gate again (not BG2 - I don't really like BG2), and now finally they've done it. It's spectacular.

 

Agreed, it's a matter of taste.

 

For me, ME2 is the best of the three ME games. I had lots of fun playing DA2, even if I wasn't completely happy with it. The Witcher 1+2 are just awesome. And I will always love BG1+2 and Throne of Bhaal. Try the Enhanced Editions, they are worth it.

[Brishon]

I think it would have been interesting to maybe play while you're on your way to the Conclave. Meeting others who would be there, creating relationships for people who would perish (making you actually feel compelled to do something about it all) rather than "oops, I lived so I guess I'll lead now"

[Sylvius the Mad]

Does the game adhere by the same non-linearity as BG? Or were you just referring to its lack of requirement that you play the main narrative?

I'm judging it by a great many things. Exploration, ability to ignore the main quest, the piecemeal way the main quest is revealed, the control over the companions, the complexity of (and ability to exploit) the combat mechanics. It's a great game.

[BammBamm]

Actually Witcher 2's combat was really good, but it was very different from most games and took a while to get a handle on. Once you did, however, it was really very enjoyable. I would take Witcher 2's combat over the mess in DAI any day.

 

in da:i its exactly the same. tac cam works fine after a while and the need of tactic raises with higher difficulty (and not using the op knight enchanter). to be honest, needed much longer to get used to witcher controls than da:i

[Sylvius the Mad]

Actually Witcher 2's combat was really good, but it was very different from most games and took a while to get a handle on. Once you did, however, it was really very enjoyable. I would take Witcher 2's combat over the mess in DAI any day.

If it's a timing-based clickfest, I hate it.

Action combat is only ever tolerable at low speeds and with low risk (like sniping - the only way I can play Skyrim).

I paused to aim in ME2. Almost every shot. And since you can't miss (unlike ME), what's the point of the ammo mechanic?