OK i just got done with her companion quest and yes I kicked her out of the team after whats shes done. Let me get this straight Sera, How the hell is it not your fault for causing the death of your "friends" I mean what the hell do you think a Noble(a ****** ill admit) would react when he finds out his servants are passing info about him? She beats the guy to death sure but her attitude after is simply just "well i better get more new "friends"!!" is just irresponsible to me. So im gonna guess is say most player kept her even after all this but did it weird you out about her?
Is Sera dangerously irresponsible?
#1
Posté 10 décembre 2014 - 11:32
#2
Posté 10 décembre 2014 - 11:35
You can always save the noble, earns approval from Sera and all, he loses out in the long run, and keeps his life. Win/win
#3
Posté 10 décembre 2014 - 11:36
Yes, OP. She's crazy.
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#4
Posté 10 décembre 2014 - 11:42
I did find it hard to step over that personally. I got to a point where I actually covered my eyes (yeah, I know, sounds childish), but I just couldn't handle that scene, that I authorised (though I totally didn't mean this as an outcome).
This is the first time in my RP history that I find it really hard to detach myself from a scene and play a character out pretending I don't know what would have happened if...(good writing of the character though, she certainly touched me emotioanlly).
#5
Posté 10 décembre 2014 - 11:43
She was just making wine guys, sigh.
#6
Posté 10 décembre 2014 - 11:45
Nope.
#7
Posté 10 décembre 2014 - 11:47
You can always save the noble, earns approval from Sera and all, he loses out in the long run, and keeps his life. Win/win
Well i didnt know that but it still doesn't change the fact she got her informants killed and then had the galls to just sum up the whole ordeal as "lets do it again!" and she claims she the helper of the little people.
#8
Posté 10 décembre 2014 - 11:48
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#9
Posté 10 décembre 2014 - 11:49
I do view her as dangerously irresponsible, but not for simply accepting that her spies were executed after she was done getting what vengeance she could. Spies get executed when they get caught. That happens. I view her worldview as represented by the wiki (since I haven't had time to try out the dual-core problem workaround I found on this site) to be dangerously simplistic, but if there's valid reasons for her to need spies to work that the value of the spies lives doesn't outweigh, then her response to the deaths that will inevitably occur is probably the healthiest she can show. (Or the one that's best for her health.)
#10
Posté 10 décembre 2014 - 11:50
Well i didnt know that but it still doesn't change the fact she got her informants killed and then had the galls to just sum up the whole ordeal as "lets do it again!" and she claims she the helper of the little people.
And then at the Winter Palace she gets disgusted when all the servants are butchered. She's more complex then you think.
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#11
Posté 10 décembre 2014 - 11:51
I get the feeling the whole Red Jenny network works like this, not just Sera.
Thing is it was an overreaction from the guy . . . and what he was doing did need to be stopped. That he killed a bunch of people because his attempted annexation of land that wasn't his drew the attention of the Inquisition.
It's actually something the Inquisition should do.
I'm not sure how it is Sera's fault. Maybe I missed some information in the game where it was her carelessness that pointed the noble to his servants, but I don't recall getting that. Just that he found out somehow.
#12
Posté 10 décembre 2014 - 11:51
They weren't real friends, just a bunch of people all over Thedas (I guess) who network together and stick it to the nobles any way and any time they can. Most of them probably don't even know eachother, and just pass messages and plans and loot back and forth in a, "I know someone,who knows someone, who knows someone, who knows someone..." kinda way and leaving stuff at drop points.
#13
Posté 10 décembre 2014 - 11:52
And then at the Winter Palace she gets disgusted when all the servants are butchered. She's more complex then you think.
How does this stop her from being crazy? Norman Bates is pretty complex too, tbh. As good as she may be at her job, which is waiting for people to talk to her, she's not really that responsible.
#14
Posté 10 décembre 2014 - 11:54
How does this stop her from being crazy? Norman Bates is pretty complex too, tbh. As good as she may be at her job, which is waiting for people to talk to her, she's not really that responsible.
Did I ever say she was not crazy?
#15
Posté 10 décembre 2014 - 11:58
Spies tent to know what there getting in to they know the risks both Varic and Liliana mention this aswell.
#16
Posté 11 décembre 2014 - 12:04
Did I ever say she was not crazy?
You would have eventually.
#17
Posté 11 décembre 2014 - 12:05
#18
Posté 11 décembre 2014 - 12:06
Sera doesn't much care about actual guilt or innocence, or the fallout. It's instant gratification without much thought. It's interesting that she's also the most hardcore Andrastian of the bunch. She's an interesting character because of the contradictions. Sometimes she's highly likeable, other times her irresponsibility and attitude are infuriating.
I must not have gotten her companion quest, because I don't remember any of that. Perhaps it was because my inquisitor wouldn't let her prank Cullen. He thought the poor guy had enough to deal with. When does it occur?
Edit: Oh, right. I did do this. I took his land and recruited him, lol. Sera didn't get much out of it.
#19
Posté 11 décembre 2014 - 12:12
His face annoyed me so I told her to kill him. She did it well.
#20
Posté 11 décembre 2014 - 12:12
Spies tent to know what there getting in to they know the risks both Varic and Liliana mention this aswell.
Yeah actual Spies like Lelianna scouts or Orliasian Bards know what there getting into but i doubt Sera "friends" knew what theyre getting into when they complain to her.
#21
Posté 11 décembre 2014 - 12:20
If Leliana is any kind of spymaster at all, she uses contacts just like Sera's. In the real world that's where most of the espionage is done in the first place; ordinary people conveniently situated and then approached by governments for information.
Whether or not they knew what they were getting themselves into...I don't know. Maybe they underestimated, but it seems since they were willing (or felt they needed to) report this guy for what he was doing, they had an idea he was dangerous. Not sure we're giving people enough credit in owning their own decisions.
#22
Posté 11 décembre 2014 - 12:21
Well i didnt know that but it still doesn't change the fact she got her informants killed and then had the galls to just sum up the whole ordeal as "lets do it again!" and she claims she the helper of the little people.
That's the nature of the game she plays, it's a dangerous career, her people can get killed even if she planned everything down to a tee. Ambushes are srs bsns.
#23
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Posté 11 décembre 2014 - 12:40
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Sera's crazy and irresponsible. But better she be crazy and irresponsible under the watchful eye of the Inquisition. And who knows? Maybe the Inquisitor and Cassandra will be a good influence.
#24
Posté 11 décembre 2014 - 12:44
Sera's crazy and irresponsible. But better she be crazy and irresponsible under the watchful eye of the Inquisition. And who knows? Maybe the Inquisitor and Cassandra will be a good influence.
I mean I kept around because she's funny and annoys everyone else, but I guess that works too.
#25
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Posté 11 décembre 2014 - 12:46
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I mean I kept around because she's funny and annoys everyone else, but I guess that works too.
Think of it as authorities making underhanded deals with organized crime figures when reasonable or convenient. If order is maintained then a blind eye can be afforded.





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