I just got a 234 DPS AOE dagger. Until now, I've been using 208 DPS Single Target daggers.
My second best AOE Dagger is only 167 DPS.
Can I use my AOE and Normal daggers together without any problem? And will it use the AOE or single target attack variant?
Thank you for clarifying! I think I prefer the normal attack type over the AOE, but I'll give the AOE a few runs to see if I get used to it, in case I get a second dagger like this.
Duelblade pros:
- Reduces cooldown on Stealth greatly.
- More effective with Poisoned Weapons.
- Allows you to proc certain passives more often.
- You get a free Twin Fangs cast as a normal attack. (Not sure if it does the same damage yet)
Duelblade pros:
- Reduces cooldown on Stealth greatly.
wait... since when?
Stealth's cooldown is reduced based on how much you hit the enemy. More hits = less cooldown. Something like that.wait... since when?
Except it always misses unless a target is standing still bashing on your tank which means you killed it too late. The twin fangs animation in the chain does not do actual twin fang damage its just a double dagger strike like single daggers do. Except that misses targets that are standing still half the time.
Faster cd on stealth by hitting lots of stuff looks nice but, if you have single daggers you don't need it because the passive I was never here would have given you instant cooldown on it. Because you can actually kill things instead of trying to hit air. If you do use the AoE part of the AoE dagger and hit a 2nd enemy you probably won't be hitting on their flank and you need to have a lego babysitting or you will die every time you try to DPS.
Generally speaking, having the single target dagger in your main hand is better because the single target attack animations move you forward faster. In any case, you want to be auto attacking as little as possible on the sin. Sure, you can probably auto attack wraiths down pretty fast, but ideally you're doing stealth -> twin fangs -> stealth -> hidden blades -> flank attack -> and so on. When my skills are on cooldown that's when I'll auto attack and try to get a killing blow to reset stealth. Leave the aoe to the mages.
If you're unable to kill anything with auto attacks, you're underequipped. Auto attacking out of stealth gives the auto crit and the 50% dmg bonus for the entire animation chain unless you are interrupted. That is 7 crits for 700% weapon damage that include rune damage and cull the herd passive whereas skills do not benefit from either. You won't get aggro if you do it properly because you generate no threat when you're flanking.
I don't know about you guys but my assassin can kill every non elite with just 2 basic attacks out of stealth on threatening, 4 sometimes 5 attacks on perilous which is still less than 1 chain. I'm doing this with 2 stupid white ~300 DPS daggers with +16 runes in them, give me a good blue or purple dagger set and I'll wipe the floor with regular mobs on perilous pretty damn fast too.
Ideally you're not only using your skills because killing something every 8 seconds makes you useless. Your basic attacks get 50% more dmg from stealth 100% more from cull, they get auto crits and your flank damage bonus whatever that's sitting at. Twin fangs is 1000% and an basic attack chain is 700% basic attacks are hardly "wrong". Oh and the cull the herd passive that only works on basic attacks gives 100% more damage, not 50%. So technically its 7x200% weapon damage crits if you're hitting a loner.
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Situation I guess. You're not going to get an arrow in your back unless a freshly spawned enemy in zone 5 does it, but even that's unlikely. Because when he spawned you were probably invisible. The other reason would be a dead tank I guess. As for arrow in the back, the back is where you are and not the enemy archers. I auto attack just fine on perilous, that does not mean you should auto attack everything blindly or stop paying attention to what's around you. Like I said I auto attack only what takes 2-4 hits to put down, less if your daggers are better, and not elite's.
Generally speaking, having the single target dagger in your main hand is better because the single target attack animations move you forward faster. In any case, you want to be auto attacking as little as possible on the sin. Sure, you can probably auto attack wraiths down pretty fast, but ideally you're doing stealth -> twin fangs -> stealth -> hidden blades -> flank attack -> and so on. When my skills are on cooldown that's when I'll auto attack and try to get a killing blow to reset stealth. Leave the aoe to the mages.
Just keep in mind that it appears single-strike abilities use main hand damage for their damage calculation and ignore off-hand, so using a lower damage dagger in your main hand will reduce ability damage for some abilities. It's not a problem for Twin Fangs, but I'm not sure about Hidden Blades or Flank Attack. I'm not saying that outweighs the better attack animations, but it's something to consider.
Flank attack uses your offhand twice, hidden blades uses your main hand 6 times. Twin fangs uses each dagger once.
Flank attack uses your offhand twice, hidden blades uses your main hand 6 times. Twin fangs uses each dagger once.
Main hand wins.
Stealth's cooldown is reduced based on how much you hit the enemy. More hits = less cooldown. Something like that.
If you kill a target, you can reset the CD entirely with "I was never there".
If you're auto attacking with daggers, you're playing your class wrong.
But what if I can two-shot normal mobs with basic attacks on threatening?
But what if I can two-shot normal mobs with basic attacks on threatening?
Then you should read the rest of the thread and get his opinion on it.
Flank attack uses your offhand twice, hidden blades uses your main hand 6 times. Twin fangs uses each dagger once.
Perfect, I was hoping someone would have figured it out. Thanks Niss. 
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