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[Maverick_One]

Tevinter is not what it was. Brother Genitivi and the HoF pointed that out in DA:O. So I don't see them being the most powerful. Infact to be serious I don't think any nation has the most powerful military. I'd argue before the events of DA:2 it was either The Grey Wardens or the Chantry. Now I would lean more toward the Inquisition. 

[Maverick_One]

Seeing that one magister was able to get a foot hold in Redcliff and manage to hold it for a year+ despite constant (3 I think) siege attempts by Ferelden AND the inquisition. Another magister also unfiltered the grey wardens and we know what happened.

I personally believe that the Venatori have always existed prior to Cory's awakening and their goal was to incite as much political discord ala Loghains betrayal, the attempted assassination of the mothers which led to Cassandra becoming a Hero, etc.

Yes, but what happened when The Herald got to the future?

[Hornless Qunari/Human DPS]

Don't for get the Chasin Barbarians... Never underestimate the mountain peoples if they ever unite.

[Former_Fiend]

I don't think the difference between Orlais and Nevarra is particularly significant at this point.

 

Before the civil war, Celene didn't want to risk war with Nevarra without the backing of the Ferelden military; she may well have won without them, but apparently they're close enough that she didn't want to risk it or pay the cost of war unsupported.

 

Since then, the civil war's raged, Orlais' armies have faced mass desertion from the Freemen of the Dales, who with Venatori and Red Templar backing caused significant loses among both warring halves of the Imperial Army. Nevarra's faced some trouble, too, but from the war table reports, I haven't seen anything happening their that would rival the toll the war has taken on Orlais as seen in the Exalted Plains and the Emprise.

 

So, Orlais may well technically be top dog, but I think it's looking more and more like a paper tiger each day.

[Gamyu]

Tevinter is not what it was. Brother Genitivi and the HoF pointed that out in DA:O. So I don't see them being the most powerful. Infact to be serious I don't think any nation has the most powerful military. I'd argue before the events of DA:2 it was either The Grey Wardens or the Chantry. Now I would lean more toward the Inquisition.

The Wardens have only about 1500-2000 men in numbers (from Riordan in DAO), spread all across Thedas.

Can I pick Darkspawns? If so, Darkspawns.

[Maverick_One]

The Wardens have only about 1500-2000 men in numbers (from Riordan in DAO), spread all across Thedas.

Can I pick Darkspawns? If so, Darkspawns.

 

Blight 1-3 Darkspawn maybe. Now to me they seem less than impressive. Other than Cory and any remaining Magisters. Even Cory to me was more impressive in Legacy and he was confused. 

[Maverick_One]

The Wardens have only about 1500-2000 men in numbers (from Riordan in DAO), spread all across Thedas.

Can I pick Darkspawns? If so, Darkspawns.

Shoot KE Inquisitor is so OP even on Nightmare he or she is a Military unto themselves. You'd need an Archdemon Dumat just to keep things interesting. All a Warden would have to do is run up and kill a dying Archdemon and poof no more blight. And that is without Viv backing him up.

[Former_Fiend]

Shoot KE Inquisitor is so OP even on Nightmare he or she is a Military unto themselves. You'd need an Archdemon Dumat just to keep things interesting. All a Warden would have to do is run up and kill a dying Archdemon and poof no more blight. And that is without Viv backing him up.

 

Solas, at the very least, seems to be of the opinion that no more archdemons is going to end badly for everyone.

[myahele]

Without the Old Gods calling making them crazy there'll be more intellegent darkspawn....doing stuff

[herkles]

Blight 1-3 Darkspawn maybe. Now to me they seem less than impressive. Other than Cory and any remaining Magisters. Even Cory to me was more impressive in Legacy and he was confused. 

Which kind of makes me wish they did not go with a blight for origins. They should be horrorific like how the described the 1st and 2nd blight. If there is to be a 6th blight plot this is what I want:

 

 

if we must have a blight story, then let it be a story of horror. We should feel at every moment. "the world is ending we are doomed" it should feel doom and gloom. It should feel like what we are doing is flat out IMPOSSIBLE.  But at the same time you encounter the destroyed town or fortified places made out of human flesh. You see the destruction of the blight and despite how much of victory seems impossible, giving up should feel worse. Despair should be everywhere. People, companions, friends and lovers should be seen to die. we should feel like that we are doomed, and then overcome it through dying. no dark ritual. A grey warden this time must die, either you or another warden. 

[Steelcan]

The Chasind don't live in the mountains. They live in the Kocari Wilds. And if you're saying the Chasind and the Avvar would unite... That'll never happen. The Alamarri, Chasind, and Avvar split off from each other a long time ago and very much hate each other. Except for maybe the Fereldans (Alamarri) because they hate Orlais more and probably respect the other two tribes for still being wilder badasses.

Shagga agrees

 

https://www.youtube....detailpage#t=29

[Maverick_One]

Without the Old Gods calling making them crazy there'll be more intellegent darkspawn....doing stuff

Yes, but that means you can reason with them, and if your forces have in their rank perfectly decent and reasonable Darkspawn who want people to see them in a different light, and will help you kill the evil darkspawn who want to rule Thedas and or corrupt everything it kinda lessens the impact of thinking Darkspawn. Especially given that in Awakening the Architect was perfectly willing to ally with you so if that is any indication. That mean we will probably see it again. Kinda hard to be properly afraid when I got Darkspawn allies of my own. Just saying.

[SomeUsername]

If you want to get technical, the Darkspawn.  Quantity is a quality all its own.

Not just quantity, but their blood makes Darkspawn pretty dangerous for normal people. 

[Palidane]

Probably Nevarra, after DAI. Then Orlais, then the Vints. And the Qunari of course, are more powerful than all of them.

 

Ferelden is surprisingly resistant, and they punch above their weight class, but that doesn't make them a major power. They have enough strength to not be worth invading, but that doesn't mean they are going to be mounting any invasions of their own. Probably true of the Anderfels as well.

[The Baconer]

Tevinter by all means should be if they knew how to properly utilize it.

[Steelcan]

How should they properly utilize it?

moar blud majik

[Palidane]

moar blud majik

Because Blood Magic has gotten Tevinter so far, yes? I mean, it's not like we can blame blood magic for the Blights or Corypheus.

 

Oh wait.

[Siegdarth]

This is a somewhat tricky topic. 

Orlais have a great army, but The Game saps the country power away while it has a lot of trouble with Elf rebellions. If Celene or Gaspard started a war on Fereldan it would risk losing too much power to maintain the status quo, would give a chance to Briala a chance to take the power. 

Fereldan already freed himself one time from Orlais, and it have  Redcliffe, the castle is considered the most defensible on Thedas, remember while in the future on DA:I you would find a document and some conversations that some of the bigger armies of Thedas, including Orlais, tried and failed to retake the castle. Also in the rebellions most of the best Chavaliers of Orlais fell to Fereldan guerrilla tactics. 

Antiva is another country that besides having almost no army few dare to attack them by fear of the Crows. If any major power would attack them probably their leaders would end up dead at some point

Tervinter has a good power, even more with free blood magic, but they have to keep the Qunari at bay and any try to conquest other territories would probably mean another Exalted March, since "Magic should serve man, not rule over it" is almost a battle cry to unite if Tervinter try anything funny.

Qunari, They have gaatlok, big ships and a top military training, but they don't have the numbers to conquer Thedas, so they keep things under control just because of spies and the treaty.

Free Marches: Too independent to muster an army to do any invasion, but it's hell trying to invade it.

Anyway, its kinda balanced IMO. 

[myahele]

Because Blood Magic has gotten Tevinter so far, yes? I mean, it's not like we can blame blood magic for the Blights or Corypheus.
 
Oh wait.

To be fair blood magic was able to drive off Art Teagan and have a magister take a foothold in Redcliff (a very defensible/strategic castle) then a magister used Clarel to summon demon army.

There were also plenty of Venatori agents that were in possitions of power and trusted personells of ruling heads of states.

If the Venatori was officially sanctioned by Tevinter who knows just how much political strife they can cause

[Steelcan]

Because Blood Magic has gotten Tevinter so far, yes? I mean, it's not like we can blame blood magic for the Blights or Corypheus.

 

Oh wait.

that's because they turned it on the heavens, if they used it on the qunari at the same scale....

[The Baconer]

How should they properly utilize it?

 

Where's the mage cavalry? The Pike-and-mage formations? The Arcane Warriors? Fire ships rigged with the Anders Special?

[Hornless Qunari/Human DPS]

What about the dwarf's how big would they be as an army or military size. 

[Dermain]

 

Which kind of makes me wish they did not go with a blight for origins. They should be horrorific like how the described the 1st and 2nd blight. If there is to be a 6th blight plot this is what I want:

 

 

if we must have a blight story, then let it be a story of horror. We should feel at every moment. "the world is ending we are doomed" it should feel doom and gloom. It should feel like what we are doing is flat out IMPOSSIBLE.  But at the same time you encounter the destroyed town or fortified places made out of human flesh. You see the destruction of the blight and despite how much of victory seems impossible, giving up should feel worse. Despair should be everywhere. People, companions, friends and lovers should be seen to die. we should feel like that we are doomed, and then overcome it through dying. no dark ritual. A grey warden this time must die, either you or another warden. 

 

Looking back at the whole ME3 debacle, BioWare likely would have faced it with Origins if the only option was that the player had to die.

 

I find it all quite amusing...

 

Yes, but that means you can reason with them, and if your forces have in their rank perfectly decent and reasonable Darkspawn who want people to see them in a different light, and will help you kill the evil darkspawn who want to rule Thedas and or corrupt everything it kinda lessens the impact of thinking Darkspawn. Especially given that in Awakening the Architect was perfectly willing to ally with you so if that is any indication. That mean we will probably see it again. Kinda hard to be properly afraid when I got Darkspawn allies of my own. Just saying.

 

No, it does not mean you can reason with them.

 

We were only able to reason with them in Awakening because of the Architect's magic, and there's ample evidence now to believe that the Architect was part of the group that Corypheus (conductor in Tevinter) led into the Black City. It's unlikely that any other darkspawn will have the ability to talk besides the odd emissary or alpha (as was shown in the DAI codex about hurlock alphas).

 

What about the dwarf's how big would they be as an army or military size. 

 

Probably laughably smaller than the armies from the rest of Thedas.

 

The dwarves are on a very slow decline because of the darkspawn.