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[Hanako Ikezawa]

Tevinter magisters don't have that special spark that made Avexis you silly goose!

True, but I wonder if them spending a life of owning slaves and sacrificing people either in blood rituals or just to entertain guests at a party would give them special qualities. I guess there's only one way to find out. Discovery requires experimentation. 

 

 

Bolded part, because she said that if you do that the mage will become emotionally unstable

 

Which will literally turn them into a ticking time bomb 

She doesn't discuss Avexis, specifically, but a mage can ask her about the reversal process. She claims it requires investigation because the immediate side affects are so severe, so they need to examine the long term ramifications to see if a tranquil who has been restored can regain their composure or if they'll forever be an unstable, emotional wreck.

 

She also says that if the reversal process is proven to be viable, she'll spread word of it herself. 

Not is the spirit stays with them, thus making them immune to demonic influences. Granted Cassandra doesn't know this, but we do.

[Milan92]

Shame that we can't create Oculara.

 

You're bad and you should feel bad 

[Br3admax]

Not is the spirit stays with them, thus making them immune to demonic influences. Granted Cassandra doesn't know this, but we do.

That doesn't change the fact that the they're emotional unstable with magical powers. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

That doesn't change the fact that the they're emotional unstable with magical powers. 

Except they aren't. As long as the spirit stays with them, like for example Wynne or Cassandra, they are themselves.

[AresKeith]

Except they aren't. As long as the spirit stays with them, like for example Wynne or Cassandra, they are themselves.

 

Wynne was never tranquil though, and we don't know if the spirit is still in Cassandra (most likely not)

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Wynne was never tranquil though, and we don't know if the spirit is still in Cassandra (most likely not)

Wynne was technically worse than Tranquil. Tranquil have their emotions removed. Wynne had everything removed. So when restored, she should have reacted far worse than a Tranquil would. 

As for Cassandra, doesn't she talk with Cole or someone about it still being with her, causing her to wonder if due to the nature of the spirit she is as faithful as she is, and the companion says that isn't the reason but instead it was her faith that drew the spirit to her? It makes no sense if she remains not Tranquil after the spirit leaves, since Karl in DA2 reverts back to Tranquil after Justice receeds back into Anders. 

[Former_Fiend]

Wynne was technically worse than Tranquil. Tranquil have their emotions removed. Wynne had everything removed. So when restored, she should have reacted far worse than a Tranquil would. 

As for Cassandra, doesn't she talk with Cole or someone about it still being with her, causing her to wonder if due to the nature of the spirit she is as faithful as she is, and the companion says that isn't the reason but instead it was her faith that drew the spirit to her? It makes no sense if she remains not Tranquil after the spirit leaves, since Karl in DA2 reverts back to Tranquil after Justice receeds back into Anders. 

 

Solas, at least, asserts there's a time factor as well. Cassandra was tranquil for a moment. Wynne - if we accept that being dead and being tranquil are comparable situations, which I'm not prepared to do - was dead but for a moment. 

 

Solas compares emotions and their connection to magic as muscles that need exorcise to keep them in working condition. Cassandra's tranquility had virtually no impact on her emotions because it lasted for a moment. A tranquil mage who has been thus for years - 18 to 20, in Avexis' case - has let that muscle atrophy to the point of uselessness.

[myahele]

Never thought about it I always thought it was a dragon cultist that was made tranquil. Didn't know she was elf either.

You'd think Cassandra or Cole's mind reading will at least mention a mage she once knew who chose to be made tranquil or forced.

Still, it'll !make sense that someone like her is considered a threat

[Hanako Ikezawa]

To be fair, the Spirit of Faith and Wynne were kind of cool with each other since her childhood. This wasn't a random spirit that just up and possessed her. It was like an acquaintance calling for an ambulance. 

That's an interesting point, actually. The spirit knew what Wynne was like since it was with her her entire life so it should be able to restore her as she was much more easily than a random spirit. Same with the Spirits of Faith with the Seekers since they spend months near them when the Seeker recruit does their vigil before going through the process. Even Justice knew what Karl was like through Anders' memories of the man.

 

So perhaps if a spirit is able to get a read on the person, it would be able to restore them properly. The spirit that de-Tranquiled Pharamond didn't have that opportunity, thus perhaps why Pharomond was unstable. 

[rpgfan321]

That's what I thought, too, when I overheard her "no longer talking to dragons." 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

They literally ruined the entire movie for me now. Avexis was the only part that wasn't ruined until I learned this. 

[Renmiri1]

Another DotS thing that gets mentioned is Cassandra and Raellian had a thing

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Another DotS thing that gets mentioned is Cassandra and Raellian had a thing

Ugh, don't remind me. That was another of the things about the movie they ruined. 

[AresKeith]

Ugh, don't remind me. That was another of the things about the movie they ruined. 

 

Not really, the movie itself kinda implied it with the cliche romance moves 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Not really, the movie itself kinda implied it with the cliche romance moves 

Yeah, sure whatever. Clearly a guy and a girl can't just be friends. They must either become lovers or one wants to become lovers. 

 

But I digress. This thread is about poor Avexis. 

[thats1evildude]

She does mention she asked to be made Tranquil. Perhaps the dragon blood was driving her insane, as it does some Reavers.

[Deanna]

I didn't even notice the elven girl, I wondered what happened to her....man....i need to pay more attention lol

[Deanna]

Is she blonde like in the movie?

[Br3admax]

Ugh, don't remind me. That was another of the things about the movie they ruined. 

You don't really know more about the characters than their creators, tbh. 

[Former_Fiend]

Yeah, sure whatever. Clearly a guy and a girl can't just be friends. They must either become lovers or one wants to become lovers. 

 

But I digress. This thread is about poor Avexis. 

 

You're just angry they foiled your theory about Cassandra's perpetual virginity.

 

Anyway, yea, Avexis - assuming that is who this girl is, which I'm perfectly willing to accept. She tells Mother Giselle that a) she volunteered for the Right, and 2) would not wish it reversed if it was possible. 

 

So, given your desire to cure her, would you be prepared to ignore her wishes in the process?

[Xilizhra]

You're just angry they foiled your theory about Cassandra's perpetual virginity.

 

Anyway, yea, Avexis - assuming that is who this girl is, which I'm perfectly willing to accept. She tells Mother Giselle that a) she volunteered for the Right, and would not wish it reversed if it was possible. 

 

So, given your desire to cure her, would you be prepared to ignore her wishes in the process?

Personally, I think that one should only be able to volunteer for Tranquility after having experienced it once and then being cured a short time afterward, so that they can make an informed decision.

[CENIC]

Regalyan's dead, Avexis is Tranquil... ****

[Former_Fiend]

Personally, I think that one should only be able to volunteer for Tranquility after having experienced it once and then being cured a short time afterward, so that they can make an informed decision.

 

I'm not going to list a lot of things people think that would limit what you or I could decide about our lives and bodies; that's neither here nor there. Without a relevant law in place in Thedas, all we have to go on is Avexis' personal decision and wishes.

[RobRam10]

Regalyan's dead, Avexis is Tranquil... ****

All is as it should be. Now we just gotta wait for the planets to align.