I already answered that.
They and the other clans can stop blaming the wrong side for starting the war and actually own up to the fact that the Dales were the ones who started it.
And because Orlais clearly subscribes to the Dalish Gazette, there'll totes be a lot of Orlesians who would actually hear about and appreciate Dalish cultural shifts.
Not that anything of this nature could happen beyond this one clan until the next Arlathvhen.
"Promoting stability in Thedas" seems to cover it.
Not true! Good Guy Gaspard made peace with the Dog lords and turned his attention to Tevinter!
Not sure if you're being serious or just poking fun at people who believe Gaspard's intentions before that are irrelevant.
Me, I'm talking about his intentions from before he was informed that there were bigger fish to fry
Elves can easily become human if they trim their ears. People will just think their emaciated people; nobody can tell the difference.
They don't need to do that. They're doing a good enough job of giving birth to/creating human children. This I can accept.
A golden halla, not just any halla.
I didn't run all over the map for nothing hurding that stupid halla to their camp.
...I at one point had 86 Halla skins. (I needed the +Cunning! +Cunning!)
The Golden Halla gave me a masterwork crafting item.
...I then came across the Dalish and was then informed I had killed something very important to them.
Oops?
the end result and the start are still the same, elf killed human, elves burned down a town
The start is not the same at all. The "start" is >innocent elven woman killed by humans. (In quotes because the centuries of tension between Orlais/Chantry and the Dales is the actual start).
Not sure if you're being serious or just poking fun at people who believe Gaspard's intentions before that are irrelevant.
Me, I'm talking about his intentions from before he was informed that there were bigger fish to fry
And those intentions mean jack and **** compared to what he actually did upon gaining the throne.
"I should start a war to unify the Empire."
"Actually there's an enemy out to destroy us all."
"Alright then, time to make peace with the Dog Lords, kick this Magister back to hell, and protect against Tevinter."
The start is not the same at all. The "start" is >innocent elven woman killed by humans. (In quotes because the centuries of tension between Orlais/Chantry and the Dales is the actual start).
That was not the start, nor the reason, they killed an entire town.
I already answered that.
They and the other clans can stop blaming the wrong side for starting the war and actually own up to the fact that the Dales were the ones who started it.
Hawren's clan already addressed the truth - that humans and elves were both responsible for the inception of the war.
Considering that the halla are sacred animals to the Dalish (and even believed to deliver deceased elves into the afterife), it's quite a gesture. It may mean little to humans, but the halla mean a great deal to the People. The codex reads, "No creature is more revered by the Dalish than the halla. No other animal has a god of its own. These white stags are much larger than ordinary deer, and the Dalish halla keepers carve their antlers as they grow, making them curve into intricate designs. In ancient times, these stags bore elven knights into combat, but since the fall of the Dales, they are used less as mounts and more to pull the aravels."
So the Dalish view an entire village's worth of lives as less than that of a single animal?
And because Orlais clearly subscribes to the Dalish Gazette, there'll totes be a lot of Orlesians who would actually hear about and appreciate Dalish cultural shifts.
Not that anything of this nature could happen beyond this one clan until the next Arlathvhen.
It would stop the Dalish from continuing to keep relationships as hostile since they are no longer provoking and blaming people whose race wasn't the ones who got the elves in their current predicament.
Hawren's clan already addressed the truth - that humans and elves were both responsible for the inception of the war.
The Dales were the ones who started the aggravation between the two nations by being isolationist to the point where they sat idly by and watched while humans were devastated by the Second Blight for 90 years.
The Dales were the ones who lit the fuse of war by the massacring of the town of Red Crossing.
The Dales were the ones who escalated the war by invading Orlais and cutting a swath of chaos and carnage through innocent people.
And now the Dalish continue keeping relationships strained by blaming the people who didn't start any of the bad blood that occurred between them as doing so.
So pray tell, where are the humans at fault? Every action the humans made was a reaction to an action the Dales made.
And in defense of the Halla, it's not like the people of Red Crossing were being very receptive to their offering. Leliana wanted to completely destroy the Elves intentions, and Josephine wanted to move heaven and earth to get permission for it to stay.
I literally had to march Inquisition soldiers in to protect an earnest gesture of apology and goodwill from being murdered. The people of Red Crossing will accept their share of the blame, whether they like it or not.
That was not the start, nor the reason, they killed an entire town.
Funny how they keep ignoring that innit?
Thye rage at us for ignoring the fact an Elven woman died at the beginning of the codex, but continiously ignore the fact her death has NO BEARING AT ALL to what happened next as the their little murder trip to Red Crossing has nothing to do with her at all.
Oh well.
If that's your definition of the Inquisition's remit, then it covers everything. It's laughably easy to abuse; "stability" for a die-hard Templar backer, for example, might mean the forced Tranquility of all mages, "stability" for a Qunari might mean the annexation of all of Thedas, and "stability" for a Vint might mean that the southern monarchies become embroiled in massive internecine conflicts that prevent them from doing anything further north.
"Stand against the chaos" was what was said to me, and it's not related to the Breach or Corypheus directly, as the Inquisition was getting established before the Breach. So it seems likely that the Inquisition's remit is already broken from your perspective.
I'm sure that once word of Red Crossing spread and the war got underway, there were many people within Orlais and possibly the Chantry who were glad they could get rid of the Elves.
Many, but not all. Not even most. Fact is some people would have some outlooks as such in regards to the Elves and their "heathen" ways. Red Crossing would've just strengthened those mindsets.
Hell, one of the Sisters who fought in the EMotD had such a viewpoint.
Hawren was nice enough to include humans as well and not take all the blame.
Really, such a nice guy.
The start is not the same at all. The "start" is >innocent elven woman killed by humans. (In quotes because the centuries of tension between Orlais/Chantry and the Dales is the actual start).
I'd say the humans killing a singluar elf is still border tensions, burning towns is the escalation into full out war
And those intentions mean jack and **** compared to what he actually did upon gaining the throne.
Lead his country into another series of wars if the Inquisitor doesn't hold his hand?
And in defense of the Halla, it's not like the people of Red Crossing were being very receptive to their offering. Leliana wanted to completely destroy the Elves intentions, and Josephine wanted to move heaven and earth to get permission for it to stay.
I literally had to march Inquisition soldiers in to protect an earnest gesture of apology and goodwill from being murdered. The people of Red Crossing will accept their share of the blame, whether they like it or not.
Pretty much. I wasn't sure how Josie's would've played out but there was no way in hell I'd go with Leliana's route.
So the Dalish view an entire village's worth of lives as less than that of a single animal?
It's not just an animal, it's a halla. And it's smarter than a horse and has its own god. Duuuh!!!
And that village had dirty peasants.
And in defense of the Halla, it's not like the people of Red Crossing were being very receptive to their offering. Leliana wanted to completely destroy the Elves intentions, and Josephine wanted to move heaven and earth to get permission for it to stay.
I literally had to march Inquisition soldiers in to protect an earnest gesture of apology and goodwill from being murdered. The people of Red Crossing will accept their share of the blame, whether they like it or not.
Lead his country into another series of wars if the Inquisitor doesn't hold his hand?
Overseeing peace talks is hardly "holding his hand" and you know it.
Funny how they keep ignoring that innit?
Thye rage at us for ignoring the fact an Elven woman died at the beginning of the codex, but continiously ignore the fact her death has NO BEARING AT ALL to what happened next as the their little murder trip to Red Crossing has nothing to do with her at all.
Oh well.
I don't know what's so hard to understand about that. Siona's sister was murdered by humans, Siona led the Dalish to Red Crossing. How is that not relevant ?
And I still need a source for that "the Dalish massacred the entire town" thing.
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Right, their ancestors get brutally killed through no fault of their own, but their decendants need to "share the blame".
Right, because it's not like the Orlesians brutally killed anyone, right?
All of this happened 800 years ago. Both sides needs to get. over. it. The Dalish, or at least that particular clan, are clearly willing too. I won't have the humans kill an honest gift out of petty spite.
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