Wait... do we actually know he can become a wolf? He plays dress up as a wolf but even his self portrait has him in a wolf costume or is that some figurative far out elf root type artistic license?
And here I told myself to stay off the forum... meh. I have 0 willpower.
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Temple life finally got to him. He's wearing the tinfoil hat as a tiara and has declared himself King of the Well and then he dumped bubble bath in the Well of Sorrows and is currently sitting in the middle of it waiting for the elves in white to take him away.
Abelas is having a foam party! I want in! And then those elves can take me away too 
Wait... do we actually know he can become a wolf? He plays dress up as a wolf but even his self portrait has him in a wolf costume or is that some figurative far out elf root type artistic license?
And here I told myself to stay off the forum... meh. I have 0 willpower.
After beating Trespasser again, and letting Abelas live, then reading the epilogue, I strongly feel he will make an appearance in DA4. In the Keep his fate is one of the tiles and that's usually not just coincidence.
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After beating Trespasser again, and letting Abelas live, then reading the epilogue, I strongly feel he will make an appearance in DA4. In the Keep his fate is one of the tiles and that's usually not just coincidence.
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Oh man I have no idea! Wish I thought of that! I never kill him. My PC is not the type in any game I play. Maybe YouTube will have answers?
Edit: Ashe did a PT with a nasty Inquisitor. I'll check her Twitch.
Edit: It seems nothing is mentioned if he was killed.
Why would anyone kill Abelas? 
I know he's grumpy but... but... that's just wrong on so many levels. I do think Solas can turn into a wolf. I just wondered if it had ever been confirmed. I'm starting to wonder if dragons are Elvhen stuck in that form. Like for whatever reason, once the veil went up they couldn't change back. I'll go back to the elf root now. 
Oh man I have no idea! Wish I thought of that! I never kill him. My PC is not the type in any game I play. Maybe YouTube will have answers?
Edit: Ashe did a PT with a nasty Inquisitor. I'll check her Twitch.
Edit: It seems nothing is mentioned if he was killed.
I'm sorry I just thought that you had a playthrough previously where Abelas was killed because you mentioned that he was alive when you played Trespasser.
And thank you 
I'm sorry I just thought that you had a playthrough previously where Abelas was killed because you mentioned that he was alive when you played Trespasser.
And thank you
I can't do it lol it's just not in me. And yeah I was curious too, and it does seem if he's kept alive we might see him again.
Why would anyone kill Abelas?
I have thought about doing it many times 
Don't hit me! *runs away and shouts* I have created characters who have no reason to do those rituals but I have been too weak to resist Abelas and then they have done those rituals because for some magical reason they believed in Morrigan .
Think about this: Flemeth can turn into a dragon, Fen'Harel can turn into a wolf and Abelas can turn into a butterfly
I can't do it lol it's just not in me. And yeah I was curious too, and it does seem if he's kept alive we might see him again.
I would love to see him again 
and romance him
I would love to see him again
It would be nice to see him again. I am cautious about any data in Trespasser though because so many files went crazy when the saves transferred. I just keep my faith due to the choices in the Keep. If we had to transfer main game ending and Trespasser data I would be fearful.
It would be nice to see him again. I am cautious about any data in Trespasser though because so many files went crazy when the saves transferred. I just keep my faith due to the choices in the Keep.
Are you talking about something that happened when playing on PC? Because I play on PS4 so I have no idea about crazy files but I have heard that some choices haven't been reflected in the DLC like who was ruling in Orlais. I'm not sure did I have those kinds of problems. Can't remember anymore.
Strange elves in Tirashan can mean a lot of things and even if Abelas wasn't there he can still be in DA4
Are you talking about something that happened when playing on PC? Because I play on PS4 so I have no idea about crazy files but I have heard that some choices haven't been reflected in the DLC like who was ruling in Orlais. I'm not sure did I have those kinds of problems. Can't remember anymore.
Strange elves in Tirashan can mean a lot of things and even if Abelas wasn't there he can still be in DA4
It seems many transferred saves went wonky on the PC. Not sure about others. I just know that the Keep is the safest way to get your data over to a new game. Any other type of transfer would make me worried my DA4 world would be a giant mess of mixed data. As long as the Keep says I allied with the Guardians, I'm content.
It just seems to be them because they really are strange looking. First time I saw them I nearly died laughing at Cole's response. "These elves want us DEAD!"
It seems many transferred saves went wonky on the PC. Not sure about others. I just know that the Keep is the safest way to get your data over to a new game. Any other type of transfer would make me worried my DA4 world would be a giant mess of mixed data. As long as the Keep says I allied with the Guardians, I'm content.
It just seems to be them because they really are strange looking. First time I saw them I nearly died laughing at Cole's response. "These elves want us DEAD!"
I also believe that Abelas is in Tirashan with the sentinels. But because I want to see him so badly there is some part of me that wants to believe that he didn't die. Even if he isn't in Tirashan he can be somewhere else being angry most likely and when DA4 comes out
You're making me optimistic! I like optimistic! Didn't even recall that Leliana actually mentioned the elves in Tirashan, I'd love to go there in DA4 and be greeted by ungrumpy!Abelas (AKA nowIcanhavecoffeeeverymorning!Abelas) See? Knee L and Knee R knew it!
I don't think they ever confirmed that Solas can shapeshift into a wolf; but as Anariel said (I think that was you?) in the ending sliders he's depicted as a wolf in Lavellan's dream. It may be that he can shapeshift but only in the Fade, and he will be able to do so outside of the Fade once the Veil is removed. Or that they didn't feel like drawing Solas
RE: transferred saves. I'm on PS4 and on my second Trespasser pt, some scenes recognised who ruled Orlais correctly but others like at the council they said Gaspard was on the throne. So I think I will also use the Keep to get my data to DA4.
Anariel you are referring to when we meet the sentinels outside the temple and they attack?
Edit: I don't know what we need to spoiler tag anymore 
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You're making me optimistic! I like optimistic!
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I don't think they ever confirmed that Solas can shapeshift into a wolf; but as Anariel said (I think that was you?) in the ending sliders he's depicted as a wolf in Lavellan's dream. It may be that he can shapeshift but only in the Fade, and he will be able to do so outside of the Fade once the Veil is removed. Or that they didn't feel like drawing Solas
RE: transferred saves. I'm on PS4 and on my second Trespasser pt, some scenes recognised who ruled Orlais correctly but others like at the council they said Gaspard was on the throne. So I think I will also use the Keep to get my data to DA4.
Anariel you are referring to when we meet the sentinels outside the temple and they attack?
Edit: I don't know what we need to spoiler tag anymore
Yep I said that lol I think in the Fade he can shape into the wolf form.
We had a patch that fixed the Gaspard thing. Now it confirms I put Celene on the throne. However my husband Cullen is now a ghost Cass walks through, then she stands beside my Trevelyan as if they were together. I have no idea what happened.
Lol yeah when we first run into the elves, Cole shouts that. First time I heard it, he was surrounded by them alone so it was like he was saying "help me! get them off me!!"
If we are going to see Abelas again I bet he will be leaning against some ancient temple and he will be looking flirtatious at the PC.
Abelas: "Need help? I got this this huge army of elves and we are all at your disposal."
If we are going to see Abelas again I bet he will be leaning against some ancient temple and he will be looking flirtatious at the PC.
Abelas: "Need help? I got this this huge army of elves and we are all at your disposal."
OMG that just made me freakin' melt when I imagined it being spoken in his voice
Sometimes I think I have a biased thing for Ameridan because it's the same voice actor. Tavin too I think.
Yep I said that lol I think in the Fade he can shape into the wolf form.
We had a patch that fixed the Gaspard thing. Now it confirms I put Celene on the throne. However my husband Cullen is now a ghost Cass walks through, then she stands beside my Trevelyan as if they were together. I have no idea what happened.
Lol yeah when we first run into the elves, Cole shouts that. First time I heard it, he was surrounded by them alone so it was like he was saying "help me! get them off me!!"
Poor Cole, he's the cutest and sometimes very funny.
Between Abelas with a butterfly tinfoil hat and ghostly Cass-Cullen, strange things are beginning to happen 
If we are going to see Abelas again I bet he will be leaning against some ancient temple and he will be looking flirtatious at the PC.
Abelas: "Need help? I got this this huge army of elves and we are all at your disposal."
Sweet Maker, if they do that, I need to now in advance. Might need an ambulance ready at the door.
OMG that just made me freakin' melt when I imagined it being spoken in his voice
Sometimes I think I have a biased thing for Ameridan because it's the same voice actor. Tavin too I think.
Sweet Maker, if they do that, I need to now in advance. Might need an ambulance ready at the door.
If that would happen I would probably die! So make it happen!
I think I have missed Tavin. He looks cute. I also like Ameridan
If that would happen I would probably die! So make it happen!
I think I have missed Tavin. He looks cute. I also like Ameridan
Tavin is a sad one. You meet him at an elven ruin in the Emerald Graves, and then he asks for help later on and then... bye-bye Tavin.
Tavin is a sad one. You meet him at an elven ruin in the Emerald Graves, and then he asks for help later on and then... bye-bye Tavin.
EDIT: NO!!!
EDIT: NO!!!
I spent so much time trying to see if he could be saved, but it can't happen. I hate when I like an NPC so much and they have a fate you can't change.
I spent so much time trying to see if he could be saved, but it can't happen. I hate when I like an NPC so much and they have a fate you can't change.
It feels that so many bad things happens to elves. Maybe I just like elves too much and because of that I pay attention to those things more.
But hopefully Abelas will come back! Bigger than ever? His thighs even larger than before? 
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