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[SeaBassChen]

Someone posted this over in the Solas thread (I swear, people talk about Abelas over there more than here!).

 

It is a series of screenshots taken of all the sliders this person used in the CC when they created their own Inquisitor Abelas. Should be really helpful and he does look like Abelas (except with hair)!

 

LINK

 

[Gervaise]

It could be that Abelas has gradually been drained of his magical powers over the years, plus they go back to sleep between "invasions" of their Temple, which would suggest that he and his sentinals had only just woken up as a result of Corypheus' assault, which could account for the lack of magical ability.   After all Solas is apparently an elven god and yet he has barely any power when we meet him but this is later explained by the fact that he had been asleep.    Ancient elves need to power up before they become really effective.

 

I had a thought; do you think there is any possibility that he could be a companion in the future?   (If he can overcome his scorn for modern races)

[procutemeister]

It could be that Abelas has gradually been drained of his magical powers over the years, plus they go back to sleep between "invasions" of their Temple, which would suggest that he and his sentinals had only just woken up as a result of Corypheus' assault, which could account for the lack of magical ability.   After all Solas is apparently an elven god and yet he has barely any power when we meet him but this is later explained by the fact that he had been asleep.    Ancient elves need to power up before they become really effective.

 

I had a thought; do you think there is any possibility that he could be a companion in the future?   (If he can overcome his scorn for modern races)

 

That's true, and it makes sense. He also seemed more warrior than mage to me, as well, if one with a bit extra magical power.

 

I really really hope that he at least shows up in the next game, if not as a companion, then as an NPC with a bigger role/more screentime. Especially if the next game focuses on the elves (although as to the likelihood of that, I cannot say).

 

I'm not sure if they'll make him a fully-fledged companion. It seems a bit unlikely to me tbh. But maybe if he gets popular enough he'll have a bigger role in future games, like how Cullen started out in Origins and then became Commander/LI in Inquisition.

 

(But of course I fully support Abelas becoming a romancable companion is a future game, if ever they wanted to put him in one.   )

[Abelas Forever!]

I had a thought; do you think there is any possibility that he could be a companion in the future?   (If he can overcome his scorn for modern races)

Anything is possible but I have no idea how likely it is. Probably not likely but still possible. I guess it depends on do they want to include him in the next game and do they think he would add something to the story. It might be that when they created him they didn't think about the next game and that they would want to include him in it because you can kill him and it seems like he really dies. Althought there can be many reasons why he didn't die after all.

 

I guess it doesn't matter what he thinks about other races because it could be that he doesn't have any choice to join your party. Maybe you capture him or something. It could be also possible that he makes a deal with you that if you help him then he helps you because he can't accomplsih that thing alone and you need his help.

 

I'm not sure how much it means if he becomes very popular. Maybe it will indicate that it's a good idea to include him in the next game and if they like the idea and it can be done so maybe he will be in the next game. I want to think that if he becomes popular then he has more changes to be in the next game.

[tsunamitigerdragon]

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[Abelas Forever!]

Hello everybody! I just came here to say that I have updated my fanfiction about Abelas.

Here is the chapter 2: http://forum.bioware.../#entry18609546

[SmilesJA]

Do you believe that there are other elves like Abelas somewhere?

[legbamel]

I hope there are, that there are temples to others in the pantheon and their sentinels still slumber.  (Alliteration--always awesome!)  It would be fascinating to have a sort of clan of them wandering around explaining the real history to their sadly ignorant Dalish progeny.

[Lorien19]

Do you believe that there are other elves like Abelas somewhere?

Possibly,after all Solas did say something along the lines of  "Your people yet linger" .

[Abelas Forever!]

Do you believe that there are other elves like Abelas somewhere?

Yes. I would be quite surprised if there wouldn't be any more of them.  Because we just found out about Abelas and other sentinels in temple of Mythal so I think it's also possible that there are places where they can hide. Maybe there are other temples which are not discovered. I think it could be quite possible that they can be anywhere and not just in temple. Maybe underground or underwater too.

 

Morrigan says that most of the eluvians are either locked or corrupted so it's possible that some of the ancient elves have locked them up somewhere safe. That way they can use the eluvian and enter our world and back to their safe haven easily. Other possibility is that some of them are trapped somewhere because the eluvian got corrupted and they can't get back to our world through it.

 

I wonder could some of them be among other elves? Or do they lose their immortality if they are?  I'm not sure how ancient elves lost their immortality but I could imagine that they could easily be among other elves without nobody noticing and still live forever.   Is it possible that Zathrian was an ancient elf? He was bald after all I just remember that he was older than elves in general. Well that doesn't prove anything but it's still interesting aspect.

[legbamel]

If you look at the sentinels in Mythal's temple, though, they're all a lot bigger than a Dalish Inquisitor.  Apparently elves used to be a whole lot taller (and better dressed).

[Abelas Forever!]

I hadn't noticed that the sentinels were bigger than  elves in modern times but they are! Well I guess my theory of ancient elves hiding among other elves is most likely untrue.

[TanithAeyrs]

I'm don't think Abelas recognized Solas as Fen'Harel, but he definitely recognized him as one of the ancient Elvhen.  He refers to a Dalish inquisitor as a shemlen in some dialogs. 

[TheLastArchivist]

Girls, I just noticed something.

 

Abelas calls the rift mark "familiar magic".

I imagine he's talking about the magic ancient elves used to activate the Foci, the devices that allowed mortals to talk to spirits of the Fade, right?

[Abelas Forever!]

Hi all! I was so happy to see an Abelas thread. It's reassuring to know others noticed him and his finer qualities. I do have some questions though...

 

 

 

Spoiler

When Solas tells Abelas that he hopes he finds a new name (which by the way isn't really what he says from what I understand) does Abelas know who is speaking to him? 

 

If he does know, why does he not acknowledge one of his gods?

 

Do elves usually refer to others as elvhen or is that an ancient elf thingy? The reason I ask that is because when Abelas says: "Elvhen such as you." It made me think something was odd about Solas before I knew who he really was. But maybe I just misunderstood.

Hello!

I'm just speculating but I think Abelas knows who Solas is because he seems quite angry at him and I think that is why he calls him "elvhen such as you" and not god or Fen'Harel. Maybe because Solas sealed the other gods away which left the remaining elves fighting with each others which again lead to that their whole culture collapsed. Because Abelas saw the last moments of Arlathan then he probably doesn't appreciate what Solas did. But I don't know what elvhen means or did ancient elves call themself that. It sounds like an insult.

 

 

Girls, I just noticed something.

 

Abelas calls the rift mark "familiar magic".

I imagine he's talking about the magic ancient elves used to activate the Foci, the devices that allowed mortals to talk to spirits of the Fade, right?

 

I have noticed that too but it seemed that Abelas was just surprised to see that kind of a mark in Inquisitor's hand maybe because he hasn't seen that kind of thing before or that Inquisitor is not an ancient elf. In my last playthrough I was playing as qunari so it must have been a surprise to him But it makes sense that the spell which Corypheus was trying to cast was a spell used to open Foci and it then ended up in your hand and because it's elven magic then Abelas recognises it. Are you refering to some theory about Foci and how it's used to talk with the spirits?

[Abelas Forever!]

By the way. Does anyone know what Solas actually said to Abelas?

[Schizya]

Hey guys

 

I've made my own version of Abelas, does anyone need sliders?

 

[electricfish]

I'm not sure how many of you appreciate lizasaurus' humorous art, but I wrote an amusing fic based on her two pieces of the Temple of Sacred Asses.

 

It's a bit long, and moves from serious to funny. 

 

http://electricghoti...5/vhenan-nooooo

[Rekkampum]

By the way. Does anyone know what Solas actually said to Abelas?

 

This was translated by some dedicated Lavellans some time ago. It has many variations, but most definitely agree that Solas was kind of selective about what he actually said to Abelas. TLDR: based on what they are able to translate, it seems he's telling Abelas that he isn't bound to the past anymore and is encouraging him to live for himself.

[TheLastArchivist]

 

I have noticed that too but it seemed that Abelas was just surprised to see that kind of a mark in Inquisitor's hand maybe because he hasn't seen that kind of thing before or that Inquisitor is not an ancient elf. In my last playthrough I was playing as qunari so it must have been a surprise to him But it makes sense that the spell which Corypheus was trying to cast was a spell used to open Foci and it then ended up in your hand and because it's elven magic then Abelas recognises it. Are you refering to some theory about Foci and how it's used to talk with the spirits?

 

Well, the thing is, there's so much about ancient elven lore we don't know.

 

The Foci were introduced in Inquisition. And we only know about them what Solas tells our Inquisitor: a device used to channel energy and allow spirits to "be focused" in the material plane.

We also hear from Calpernia that the people who the elves revered as gods were able to physically walk in the Fade.

(This is actually very interesting, because she believes they were not gods at all. Perhaps very powerful mages?)

 

And in the end, we see the magic used to open the Breach by Corypheus was the same used by these ancient elven "gods": a magic contained in the Foci.

 

 

Well, it's certainly an intriguing subject, one that can be further explored in future games and will no doubt spawn many amazing theories.

The only concrete thing we know is that there were once people revered by the elves who could walk in the Fade. And they made use of the Foci -or created them, who knows? - to channel spirits. 

[procutemeister]

By the way. Does anyone know what Solas actually said to Abelas?

 

If you want the exact words he says "Malas amelin na halam, Abelas." 

[Abelas Forever!]

This was translated by some dedicated Lavellans some time ago. It has many variations, but most definitely agree that Solas was kind of selective about what he actually said to Abelas. TLDR: based on what they are able to translate, it seems he's telling Abelas that he isn't bound to the past anymore and is encouraging him to live for himself.

Thank you!

 

Well, the thing is, there's so much about ancient elven lore we don't know.

 

The Foci were introduced in Inquisition. And we only know about them what Solas tells our Inquisitor: a device used to channel energy and allow spirits to "be focused" in the material plane.

We also hear from Calpernia that the people who the elves revered as gods were able to physically walk in the Fade.

(This is actually very interesting, because she believes they were not gods at all. Perhaps very powerful mages?)

 

And in the end, we see the magic used to open the Breach by Corypheus was the same used by these ancient elven "gods": a magic contained in the Foci.

 

 

Well, it's certainly an intriguing subject, one that can be further explored in future games and will no doubt spawn many amazing theories.

The only concrete thing we know is that there were once people revered by the elves who could walk in the Fade. And they made use of the Foci -or created them, who knows? - to channel spirits. 

I believe too that elven gods weren't truly gods but instead very powerful beings. It's just easier to refer them as gods. I guess they can be gods depending on what is consired as a god and what are their abilities in which we don't know much. Anyway I hope that they are more than just powerful mages because it sounds much better if they are called something else than ancient elven mages.

 

I think that elven gods were also shapeshifters because Morrigan will learn how to change into a dragon after she has drunk from the well.