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[BoscoBread]

I came to this forum being a fan of Abelas, but I think you guys are slowly converting me to something beyond rationality. Between him and Solas- elf sandwich, anyone? 

I was pretty much done in from my first run through of ToM..so 3 days after the game released??? His VA is amazing.  I prefer the "grittier" voice to Solas' melodic voice.  Also, even for being in the game for 10 min., it was an incredibly emotional 10 min.   I wanted to give him the biggest hug.   I was so sad he wouldn't come back with me.    BUT I'm glad to see that I wasn't the only that felt that way.  There's been a lot of great fan art(Swevenfox, Liz, and Artemorte) and stories that have helped craft a really interesting character AND kept the love going. TLDR: Going down with Abellan ship. 

[Kestrel]

Minus points though- you don't get to see Abelas's butt. Solas has a nice butt.

 

Re;Abellan ship- maybe she finds him after Solas has dumped her and he's like "yah what a jerk let's get milkshakes" or something and then it's TRU WUV.

[BoscoBread]

Minus points though- you don't get to see Abelas's butt. Solas has a nice butt.

 

Re;Abellan ship- maybe she finds him after Solas has dumped her and he's like "yah what a jerk let's get milkshakes" or something and then it's TRU WUV.

I have in my headcanon he comes to her.  Well he and the rest of the surviving sentinals(because that old lady better have lived) goes to Skyhold to find Morrigan/Solas(Morrigan drank from the well in my game).  Both being gone, my gal was like 'well...you can hang out here. i got **** to do but we could always use help'.  he's all 'sure'.  and they have this bromance - romance kind of thing. mostly because i think with him, he would be really slow about entering into any romantic relationship and my lavellan would not be interested in much at that point. but yes, then it's tru wuv.

[Kestrel]

I imagine everything Abelas does initially probably moves at a pretty glacial pace. The world must have changed quite a bit from the last time he actually managed to leave the Temple. Maybe he goes to live in the library and be the game's new racist old grandpa (my affectionate pet name for Solas). Certainly something I might explore in writing. 

[BoscoBread]

I wish I knew who it was that wrote this on DA confessions:

 

 

I don't dislike Solas but I have to admit there were times when his romance felt like an afterthought. It lacked recognition from others in the group to a large degree and from him. I think more than that, I always prefer characters who you get to help in some capacity. Sure, Solas had his personal quest etc... but in the end I felt cheated because you never fully know him. The odd thing is, and thighs aside (lol) I wanted to help Abelas find a new purpose. He just felt more genuine to me. I will also shamefully admit that I only became interested in Solas once I knew who he really was. I suspect I'm not the only one.

I was actually pretty taken with Solas right off the bat - which was out of left field. I was all in for the Commander.  Whoops. 

 

The romance I think is lacking BECAUSE it was an after-though by the writers, though I do think it was the most emotionally intense of all of them.  A lot of that was GDL really selling Solas' affections for the Inquisitor in the cut-scenes. It's easy to assume that he had fallen really hard and was trying to just not act on it because of obvious reasons. I hope - with DLC - they'll flesh it out a lot better.  I actually think we got a pretty good view of Solas.  No we don't know what's up to, but I at least hope - the man you meet in Inquisition is the same one you'll run into later...just with lots of problems.

 

With Abelas - same thing - right off the bat.  I think Abelas story potential intrigues me a bit more because it's a bit more "human".  It would be something my Lavellan could relate to a bit.  Solas' is so up in the air and there is a fear - for me - that it may just go completely off the rails with the divinity bit.

[Kestrel]

Both characters have a charisma that's sort of unexpected, given who and what they are. I was taken with Solas right away, but Abelas had a dignity and a bearing to him that also made him intriguing as a character. Otherwise, Kissie said pretty much everything I could have. 

[Swevenfox]

Whoa suddenly thread got active - I love it :>

Hello to those who new to this thread? *waves hand*

 

Just read through - and my addition to this;

Solas was made romance option in last minute and on a way it is felt that way through the game as I heard. I personally not that much into that ship, because I personally can not accept/see/understand Solas as a "god" really capable to develop in such short term love for a "mortal". 

My theory is still is, after he was turned down several time by the Dalish when he tried to teach them the right ways and seeing the situation of the city elves Lavellan interest and large amount of positive feed back simply surprises him and wakes up in him sort of flame/fire and renew his spirit for everything. 

 

He cuts the romance when he realize where this is leading and how much it could hurt the inquisitor if he would notice what he felt was just a sudden flame not what the other one would await from him. So instead of totally crush her heart he jumps out of it and feeling bad as he does feel for her, but in this short time and with his original plan to restore the People simply unreal to be really deep and honest love. Finding him mature enough he closes it before it may go worse. 

 

Abelas in other hand is no god, and another character I have hard time to really imagine a romantic figure. Even if this option would be open for him it would be only a very slow way and only through approval and priority should not be focused on it. He is an old character, he hardly knew else but to guard the Well for him already stepping out and Live would be a huge task to fulfill. Learn to Live - no small task and once he is more or less finding his ground then maybe see how he is with emotions - so far we know for sure that he is dedicated spirit and very-very loyal. 

But cant help but see him a "slow" person with adapting - so far only Flemythal was able to adept the world around her and only because she was never slumbering but carried along in an active awaken body. Just look at Solas, instead of adopt (wait and learn) he screws up with the orb as first step. 

 

But alas - these are only my thoughts. 

 

But I have a wip I had very strong inspiration for under the cut -

 

Spoiler

>>source<<

 

I always had crush on butterflies and this colour theme was really vivid in my head and the two fit together really nicely. 

 

 

This reminds me I have a lot older wip of him I never finished (but planning to)

>>source<<

[Siha]

My theory is still is, after he was turned down several time by the Dalish when he tried to teach them the right ways and seeing the situation of the city elves Lavellan interest and large amount of positive feed back simply surprises him and wakes up in him sort of flame/fire and renew his spirit for everything. 

 

He cuts the romance when he realize where this is leading and how much it could hurt the inquisitor if he would notice what he felt was just a sudden flame not what the other one would await from him. So instead of totally crush her heart he jumps out of it and feeling bad as he does feel for her, but in this short time and with his original plan to restore the People simply unreal to be really deep and honest love. Finding him mature enough he closes it before it may go worse. 

 

I don't think your theory will find many friends but I personally dig it. It's a very deliberate approach to the subject and it reflects a rather common aspect of life. Mistaking temporary affection/attraction for more than it actually is and then backing away when it gets too intimate, that really happens a lot and I can very much see the Solas romance as such.

Basically: here, have all my likes.

[Swevenfox]

I don't think your theory will find many friends but I personally dig it. It's a very deliberate approach to the subject and it reflects a rather common aspect of life. Mistaking temporary affection/attraction for more than it actually is and then backing away when it gets too intimate, that really happens a lot and I can very much see the Solas romance as such.

Basically: here, have all my likes.

 

Yeah I am aware of that - that is why I avoiding to really put my own theory online seeing how some of the fandom can jump and bite on things which are "out of blue" and I dont want to fall on the bad side of it.

My first female inquisitor also on Solas' path now so I not saying this as bad, to me this gives more depth as a player behind the computer even if it will make my poor girl feel very uncomfortable and confused and will leave her obviously heart broken. 

 

I also not saying Solas is unable for develop real strong feelings either, just the circumstances and the short amount of time on more personal thoughts during the Corypheus issue simply not enough to really get to the deep of it. It is an affection, he does feel for her and his feelings are warm and fuzzy but also in other hand for his goals he "kills" even his best friend who he respected deeply - would he not hurt the inquisitor if she would stand between him and his goal in the future?

I know most people want to think "no of course not" but to be really realistic there is an option for this outcome and atm I think he is unstable emotionally out of being confused and lost in this age. 

 

His biggest fear was dying alone - so he is a deep figure and he does have his feelings at heart - but this whole was just really unfortunate way forged by Fate. 

[Siha]

seeing how some of the fandom can jump and bite on things which are "out of blue" and I dont want to fall on the bad side of it.

 

Ah, a fox can always help himself. Bite back if necessary!
 

My first female inquisitor ... feel very uncomfortable and confused and will leave her obviously heart broken.

 

But she will grow through such experiences, emerging stronger and more independent. Life and people are too complicated to sensibly believe there will always be an easy way out. After all, we tend to learn from failure and hardship, probably more than from success.
 

I also not saying Solas is unable for develop real strong feelings either, just the circumstances and the short amount of time on more personal thoughts...

 

No, I did not take it as such. And I think it is just what you say. I also find it hard to believe Solas can open up enough so quickly after awakening and finding his whole world shaken. I assume his thinking is consumed by that plan of his, whatever it might be, and he might not have enough cognitive resources available for other thoughts. I think he implies as much when he says how he needs to think about the general idea and how there's "considerations". In any real life relationship people would get back to that statement and elaborate further. Lavellan and Solas do not do that. I think they skipped the part where they should address these considerations and hesitations, instead pushing forward too much. So when Solas finally reaches the point of having considered enough, he cannot do much more than pull back.
 

would he not hurt the inquisitor if she would stand between him and his goal in the future?
I know most people want to think "no of course not" but...

 

I actually think many people would agree on this. We've had this discussion in the Solas thread (you might consider a vacation there some time) and many people there believe he would sacrifice Lavellan if need be. I am convinced of it even (but I am not a Solasmancer), though I have a slightly different point of view on the Mythal issue.

[Swevenfox]

@Siha;

 

Ah a fox only show aggression if cornered and terrified for their life, I really hope I wont go that deep to feel the urge to actually really do bite ;D

 

And that is it. When I was thinking how to play Shiral I just felt she implies for such relationship. As her name refers she is about Journey, discover, experience and grow from it. She was open to hear out other peoples opinion and thoughts and widen her knowledge by being aware of the surrounding over the shell she was growing up. So such romance would make her stronger and the tragic outcome will make her more to feel like her the way I imagined her personality in my mind. She due of this many personal thought became far more my favourite inquisitor and not regretting I rolled her on Nightmare and never changed the difficulty - everything turning out with her the way I can feel her as a living being. 

Actually this is why I decided to see the Solas romance. I had earlier Dorian and Josephine and planning on a way for Cassandra and out of curiosity Cullen. But I need to feel my character or I wont finish the game. 

 

And yeah I agree on the pushing actually. While with Joshie and Dorian I had to build up things to even reach to a kiss scene with Solas it just happened without really feel they actually had proper understanding of each other. And this feeling didnt stop to me, and the only way I can imagine my Inquisitor even went this brave (it is almost like a lady asking the man out situation) because she was a mage and she fell in love with the concept of learning from Solas who appeared wise and someone with great knowledge. Being Dalish, isolated feeling want to be loved from this little actually suits her - hint of naivety but as a person the romance has no stable pillars but that just proves to me my theory of him jumping out once he realize where this is heading being unsure he really wanted to take this route. 

You worded it really nicely actually! :>

 

I was considering to check the Solas thread but felt terrified from the page amount there :'D

Also I firstly came here because of Abelas whom I personally enjoy a lot more being mortal, being mysterious and his cheekbones+nose combination just got me there. But then I am all about dragon age elves - they ruined my life and wanted to keep the Abelas thread alive by be more likely active here, firstly art wise. I took months to be brave enough to even talk .-.

 

 

@varricschesthair

 

Oh I not saying he would be impossible to make a LI, but a DCL would be not enough for that, that would require a whole full game where you can make the connection with him as a person over the visual appearance. I would love the idea to have him romance option even if he would be limited on female elf like Solas even - but would not want it to go rushed and vague in depth because of the player desire kontra realism in character development. 

Not for Lavellan though, but a new character, a new hero or so. This is all my headcanon is about, a Dalish mage being rescued by him from a massacre over her clan in a journey they both have time to learn and understand one another. Though I not planned romance into it still, but kind of platonic love and so on. 

Path-of-sorrow was kind enough to write me up a beginning for it which you can check

>>here<<

 

It has a speedpaint illustration to go with for the atmosphere :>

 

And I want to finish it for sure, I just got excited how well my colour palette on that one worked out, I not used blues much lately like on this one now so had my fears I may screw it up, but luckily it worked out fine. :>

And how you mean "buy it"? :0

 

And thank you!

Actually I love how the Solas romance goes personally, because beside the Abyss quest I really missed the depth from the game, I felt like a person bathing in Golden light as my decisions did not make consequences the goal was the finish it one way or another. With Solas I at least feel that things not perfect and even if I save the world and trying to do the right things I cant win every battle and sometimes the personal battles effect me more then others. 

Just as my comic I made about an alternative idea of the ending - I digging the idea to get a bit of depth, because depth will move you, and will give depth behind the character.

Those people who want a really sweet romance and happy ending always can go with Cullen, Josephine. It is just a wider opportunity for players for all sort of chances with their characters to take on. If one romance is "spoiled" not means you cant end the game happy and try different route. It satisfy me as it gives me lot of feelings and feelings are excellent motivation for drawing strong pieces next to the happy and sweet ones. :>

[Siha]

@Siha;

 

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I was considering to check the Solas thread but felt terrified from the page amount there :'D

Also I firstly came here because of Abelas whom I personally enjoy a lot more being mortal, being mysterious and his cheekbones+nose combination just got me there. But then I am all about dragon age elves - they ruined my life and wanted to keep the Abelas thread alive by be more likely active here, firstly art wise. I took months to be brave enough to even talk .-.

 

I am very amazed by how you see this and how thoughtful you go about the depicted relationships. I very much like your approach.

 

I think you should frequent both threads if you like. People don't only hang in one place after all. We can talk Abelas and Solas! There is a huge Abelas fan group after all.

 

If you consider the Solas thread, just don't worry so much. The thread is much older and we spam a lot of silly stuff. New people keep popping in all the time and we welcome everyone. And you have such beautiful opinions and care so deeply for it all, people would be very happy to hear what you think, I am sure.

[procutemeister]

I came to this forum being a fan of Abelas, but I think you guys are slowly converting me to something beyond rationality. Between him and Solas- elf sandwich, anyone? 

 

I like how you think. 

 

It's great to see this thread getting more active! I'll post more once I finish exams. 

[Swevenfox]

I am very amazed by how you see this and how thoughtful you go about the depicted relationships. I very much like your approach.

 

I think you should frequent both threads if you like. People don't only hang in one place after all. We can talk Abelas and Solas! There is a huge Abelas fan group after all.

 

If you consider the Solas thread, just don't worry so much. The thread is much older and we spam a lot of silly stuff. New people keep popping in all the time and we welcome everyone. And you have such beautiful opinions and care so deeply for it all, people would be very happy to hear what you think, I am sure.

 

Oh really? Thank you!

I only paired up inquisitors with romances the way I felt it suits them and it can build their character for me deeper and more refined. So I had lots of thoughts on Solas ever since playing my recent playthrough :>

 

I may really should check other threads around haha - I just got so comfy sitting in the Abelas thread lately - but it not means I am limited only on him, but he def a huge muse to me and hope the large fandom over him may make the miracle and get him as companion on later games ! :>

 

And thank you kindly for the invitation I appreciate it!

I will check in once I am completed my game with Shiral so I will have first hand experience every aspect of his (close to it, just my ocd wants me to collect everything possible before beating it). I would also love to check over others opinion of it and theories and concepts. Though with my Abelas artwork I still prefer to share in this one, since I want to promote this thread as the Solas one is active enough already.

My secret hope if the thread here is alive it may really make notice that the fans have desire and need to have this character back in their games. A secret propaganda ;D

[Swevenfox]

I agree. I don't know why he would have to be limited to a female elf. Perhaps, he likes male elves but I can't see him ever going for anything outside an elf. He's too traditional for that.

 

I will definitely read it! Thank you for the link.

 

Do you do commissions?

 

I am also hoping by keeping the thread going that BW will get the hint. We need more Abelas!

 

I find him very traditional and to me his character not sounds bi-open. While I am a huge supporter of "love over gender" some characters just not fit in the open minded about it. I might be wrong, but everything Ive seen from old ways are traditional and quite closed in many ways - only the newer age looks more accepting (except Tevinter ofc). 

 

And I actually do yes I have here a price list with contact information - tho recently only having waiting list, since have a bunch to finish first! :> 

also should refresh my examples, some of them are quite old. .-.

 

Cullenites made it, hope our propaganda will make Abelas as well a companion ;D

[Lorien19]

 

I was considering to check the Solas thread but felt terrified from the page amount there :'D

Also I firstly came here because of Abelas whom I personally enjoy a lot more being mortal, being mysterious and his cheekbones+nose combination just got me there. But then I am all about dragon age elves - they ruined my life and wanted to keep the Abelas thread alive by be more likely active here, firstly art wise. I took months to be brave enough to even talk .-.

 

 

 

Yes and yes!Half of his face might be hidden under the hood (+20 mysterious allure) but the part of his face that is visible is really attractive in a rather unconventional way.I really like the sharp angles of his face.

[Kestrel]

I'm in love with really sharp cheekbones as well. I wish I had them myself. Instead, I'm just holding future partners to an impossible standard set by video game elves. 

[TanithAeyrs]

Solas vs potential Abelas romance, good discussion going on here.  I'll add my two cents from a roleplay perspective.

 

Inquistion time line is unspecified, although I doubt that all the missions and traveling could have been accomplished in less than a couple of years.  This would have allowed time for an Inquisitor to develop a deeper (head canon) relationship with Solas.  In game the initiation of the relationship does feel rather abrupt, although obtaining the aid of the mages or Templars would, realistically, still have taken several months.  Human beings (and by extension, Elvhen) tend to look for connections in times of emotional stress so I think a quick evolution of a relationship is not out of the question. 

 

From there it depends on how one roleplays; for myself I would head canon a young or inexperienced Inquisitor with Solas causing him to mistake desire/crush for love and then backing out of it before things got deeper.  I do think he has genuine feelings, but after thousands of years of isolation I am unsure of his ability to fully interpret his own emotions.  In contrast I roleplayed my canon Inquisitor as a practical and experienced widow in her mid-forties with her own secrets to keep.  In my head canon there is more potential depth to this relationship (and much more that could go wrong) because now both characters are standing on the line between desire and love and both have full knowledge that a relationship with secrets will lead to heartache, yet they fall anyway.    Thus I think the Solas romance can be interpreted as many different ways as there are Solasmancers out there.

 

On the subject of god vs Elvhen, Solas himself says the Elvhen pantheon were not gods (although his defense of Mythal suggests they were likely something more than ordinary Elvhen).   Abelas is Elvhen from the time of Arlathan and thus is one of the immortal Elvhen.  Note that in the context that immortal is used in Elvhen lore it does not mean invulnerable or indestructible (even Mythal was killed - although some essential part of her lived on), instead it seems only to refer to the lack of a finite lifespan.  There are several places in the lore (I'm too lazy to look them up right now) where immortal Elvhen were said to perish from diseases brought by humans.  So both Solas and Abelas would have to consider the consequences of falling for a mortal (a hundred years doesn't seem like very much when measured against two thousand plus- or in Solas' case somewhere between 4 and 7 thousand years).  Granted both Fen'Harel and Abelas spent a considerable amount of time in Uthenera, but sleeping through the passage of so many years contributes to the shock of dealing with the current state of Thedas.

 

To complicate matters further for an Inquisitor, no one knows what effect the mark could have.  Plus two physical walks in the Fade and possibly the consumption of the Vir'Abelassan.  At this point I think every argument could be made that the Inquisitor may no longer be strictly "mortal".  But, for a future character, we don't know the effect Fen'Harel's future actions will have on Elvhen lifespan, or how many of 'his people' will return to Thedas, or even if Fen'Harel or Abelas will 'quicken' with association with humans.  And Solas references the existence of other Elvhen from Arlathan still in existence in his conversation with Abelas.  So, whether it is ever addressed in game or not, there is potential for matching either of our two Elvhen hotties with someone of a similar lifespan (either by loss of their immortality or by finding someone who is also immortal).

 

And, on to a potential Abelas romance:

This, I think, would be amazing but tough to write (although I am all for it).  In many ways he is less complicated than Fen'Harel.  He has no overwhelming agenda, no reason to dismiss or even sacrifice his LI to accomplish his goals.  But, even as old as he is we need to remember his life has been spent in service to Mythal.  He had no focus beyond that and even with thousands of years of life I suspect his vision of the world is incredibly narrow.  With the loss of his duty we have a man cast adrift with nothing to hang on to in a world alien to all that he knew.  He is grieving and lost which makes for a dangerous combination in a relationship.  I fear he may hold to tight to the first anchor that breaks through his wall of isolation.  Nice material for developing him as a character, but a rocky road for a writer to negotiate as he would likely burn hot and cold, cling too tightly and push his LI away in turns. 

 

Last, because I don't think you can consider either of these two characters separate from the times that shaped them it is important to look at the sheer span of years their lives have spanned.

 

Quick timeline reference (From The World of Thedas):

 

1 FA (Elvhen timeline) / -6100 ancient (chantry calendar):  Founding of Arlathan-  notes here state that this is such an ancient date as to be uncertain

3100 FA/ -3100 Ancient: Records claim humanity arrives in Thedas

3350 FA/ -2850 Ancient: Elves are said to first notice the quickening and begin withdrawing from human contact.

5219 FA/ -981 Ancient: Open war between elves and Tevinter.  Tevinter besieges Arlathan (Abelas would have been born prior to this)

5225 FA/ -975 Ancient: Tevinter is said to sink Arlathan into the ground using blood magic.  Surviving elves are enslaved

5805 FA/ -395 Ancient: Tevinter magisters open gate to the Golden City.  The first blight begins

6245 FA/ 1:1 Divine: Chantry founded, first Divine elected

7185 FA/ 9:40 Dragon: current time

[Swevenfox]

@Lorien19

 

As an artist I had to come around the hood and study his face closer to be able to "reproduce" him through my works and even if he is bald under the hood (which is more alike, even if most artist prefer drawing him with white braided hair) I find his facial features really handsome (even if this may sound funny from my mouth, but my gf also agrees on this with me haha).  

I was not that deeply touched with his tights then most people, but those facial features really got me there, very unusual and unique features and it gives him a very strong characteristic + the animalistic strong yellow eyes which I also loved for Morrigan+Flemeth. 

 

@TanithAeyrs

 

While I agree on you that the inquisition story for sure took years to bring forward logically the game forgot to really settle the time in us with it. Just to travel to certain locations would take weeks if not month to do there is nothing could remark this time for us gamers (and from our eyes if we skip the side quests the main storyline is absolutely feels short) and that not helping much now to dig deep to the emotional part behind the characters.

I still think Solas was fed up with his mistake with the Orb and to fix that, and even if we talk about years, those years more about duty, preparations and work over taking now a month of relax from everything and the way their romance was written feels rushed without roots, without further recognition from him. It is like he at first refuse this option but asked by Lavellan he gives a chance to give it a try, but nothing really happens to really make it feel to win depth in this try, it lingers there - it has no reasons in it. 

Such tones missing in any case - like the girl asking out the man, and then awkward silence between them where they instead of talk things over, accept the feeling of being considered as a couple by everyone else (Sera noted this to me in party banter at least) but they never really actually discussing this. As mentioned I had full romance with Dorian and Josephine and both case they wanted to discuss and clear things up before progressing more deep into it, and with Dorian I even skipped the raw sex scenes claiming that my intentions are serious not just for one night fun - which I loved to bits that I could chose how I want that romance to go on and by it pick the option suited my character the most. I cant talk much of the others, but what I seen on youtube of other romances all other LI got their time to make sure their intention are serious and deep and I really miss this moment from Solas, so all I can imagine they agree on trying but it lingers there without being talked over to settle the "rules". Now for my character this fits, being sheltered and isolated having absolutely no idea how this even should work and as she is not being explained she sticks with this lingering concept thinking this is how it is working out. She will learn it for sure once I get to that scene, but I not entered the Temple part yet, was busy crafting and challenge the dragons same level on Nightmare for the battle spirit so far. I left lot of area untouched and undiscovered just to be able to battle those majestic beast on their right level so that game looks a bit messy and want to catch up before progressing her story further. 

 

About the "gods" I ship Path-of-Sorrow concept on that one.

They were living in a time there was no Veil and the Fade and the reality was together - so by my imagination one trusting and believing that someone is higher then the rest could raise and lift the one higher to the other and offer them powers the rest not had. Fade as dream world and all - could form it by the many thoughts and believes and change things, change ones being and powers if wished hard.

Many theories working with this concept; a God only god and exist still one believes in them. This would also explain their greek alike personality, Gods with inside dramas and such which is quite sounds like mortal thing over godly attitude. So I share this idea that the old gods were once Arlathan elvhen themselves as well, but strong leaders who achieved the godhood by having followers and others to believe in them and this given them additional powers and abilities. 

 

About Abelas romance I agree that will be thought to write but would absolutely worth it. So much chance into it and could really enjoy the idea to make one not "fucked up" (sorry for the word use) elf romance which is old and ancient. Could give a whole new spice to the whole, something Bioware not worked yet - while we got a Qunari LI which previously was something nobody would believe in.

His would be also complicated but on a lot different ways. He has mind of a servant - he only knows to follow paired up with Pride a strange combination which we should pass through first before even see what is he really like under all this skin. He not carry burden of a god and has no goals as a god would - but he knows nothing about Living and on a way he is very weak person as he cant even imagine his Life without serving a higher purpose which given by his Gods. 

A lot to come around and make him accept our lead enough to even open to the world and its being.

 

As mentioned above my own silly head-canon is all about this part. How to come around his persona, how to make him adopt a bit more from a new way of living, how to even accept help of another mortal for his good and think out of his box, and do his first step to make the decision of his own in not even a serious matter but in something smaller as first step. I love this idea to work with something so old, so closed - and try to bring on the surface things which are there but so long pushed away, even himself denies it ever existed. 

 

I think this could be a very deep, and very strong LI if taken and written it well in the game serie. Something I would look forward to.

As once we can open the world for him, can imagine he would serve "love" with the same loyalty like he did with the well, someone I would see taking it deep and serious once let himself to experience it and make him able to trust "us" enough to even consider the option. I could see a beautiful story with him in this direction, a slow one - a trust game with many layers but it would bring an amazing experience in it.

But this is personal option - but I like playing with the thought!

[TanithAeyrs]

@Swevenfox: excellent points there. I particularly like the thought that the Elvhen pantheon was elevated through belief. And I think you hit the difficulties and benefits of an Abelas romance dead on. Poor guy knows nothing but service. It will be a challenge for him just to make his own decisions, planning for the future would be an impossibility until he figures out who he is. Going from 'Mythal commanded' to 'what do I like?' Is a huge step.

I was thinking about this issue while I was driving my kids to music lessons this evening and I realized the best description for all surviving true Elvhen (by Solas and Abelas' definition) is that of post-apocalyptic survivors. They have seen their advanced society destroy itself and all they held dear come crashing to its knees. They are left in a world ruled by barbarians and their nearest modern kin have less understanding than children by their definitions.

Also, ROFL, when I described Abelas as likely burning hot and cold in a relationship because he had been cast adrift I later realized that characterizes Solas' relationship as well. Ancient elves, with or without agendas are likely to have some similar responses.