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Yes,the song Leliana sings suggests that they willingly fell into slumber and didn't expect to awaken.So I suppose their spirit was indeed connected to their body in some way and perhaps by travelling in the fade for so long was the cause for them to loose this connection.

In which case, I wonder exactly how long it takes for the body to deteriorate in Uthenera?  I need to look at a timeline or something. How long has it been in DA since the end of the Ancient Elves? How long did Solas sleep for? 



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Oh dear, I hope this thread does not go the way of so many other elf appreciation threads before it...  *sighs*

How have past elf appreciation threads gone, haha? 



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If we're going to have an Abelas thread, we really need links to awesome fanart and maybe some fic too on the front page.  It is a requirement!

 

(Seriously, I'm not as into him as most of the people here, but he'd be awesome for finding out lore from so YES PROMOTE HIM, I want him in my party next game!  I don't care if I can't romance him.  I just want to listen to him talk about ancient elves!)


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If we're going to have an Abelas thread, we really need links to awesome fanart and maybe some fic too on the front page.  It is a requirement!

 

(Seriously, I'm not as into him as most of the people here, but he'd be awesome for finding out lore from so YES PROMOTE HIM, I want him in my party next game!  I don't care if I can't romance him.  I just want to listen to him talk about ancient elves!)

If you send me some links I'd love to put them up! I did see an... interesting fanfic in the Solas thread hahaha. 



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Weeeeell, this one is in the works. It...is going to be NSWF, I imagine. They haven't gotten to the good stuff yet, though. Well, there is some bathing done in the courtyard.

 

http://dragonage-kin...68344#t46368344

 

This is the one, right Cosmia?


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In which case, I wonder exactly how long it takes for the body to deteriorate in Uthenera? I need to look at a timeline or something. How long has it been in DA since the end of the Ancient Elves? How long did Solas sleep for?

I imagine the process is slower or perhaps it starts deteriorating when their spirit is completely disconnected from their body,as for Solas he's a mystery since we don't know whether he's Fen'harel embodied or just a similar case to Flemeth's.
I also suspect that Abelas and the rest of the sentinels are rare cases as well as their bound to Mythal,which might prevent them from being entirely disconnected from their bodies.That's my theory for now.

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Okay, editing the OP to include some stuff. In the mean time, I think this describes how some of us feel.

 

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I imagine the process is slower or perhaps it starts deteriorating when their spirit is completely disconnected from their body,as for Solas he's a mystery since we don't know whether he's Fen'harel embodied or just a similar case to Flemeth's.
I also suspect that Abelas and the rest of the sentinels are rare cases as well as their bound to Mythal,which might prevent them from being entirely disconnected from their bodies.That's my theory for now.

 

Also there's the whole baldness thing, right?  The popular theory is that they lose their hair in their sleep or they shave it off just before in a reverent act, like a monk would, I suppose.

 

I thought I saw a screenshot somewhere of someone fighting one of the sentinels and their hood was down, and they were indeed bald.  I can't find it anywhere now.  :(



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I imagine the process is slower or perhaps it starts deteriorating when their spirit is completely disconnected from their body,as for Solas he's a mystery since we don't know whether he's Fen'harel embodied or just a similar case to Flemeth's.
I also suspect that Abelas and the rest of the sentinels are rare cases as well as their bound to Mythal,which might prevent them from being entirely disconnected from their bodies.That's my theory for now.

 

Well, according to Felassan, they had people to tend them and give them special herb concoctions, until they eventually learned to draw energy directly from the Fade.  I suppose sometime after that is when they begin to deteriorate?  Either that, or they only deteriorate if they never learn to draw from the Fade.  Still, you certainly can't live without food and water, no matter how in stasis you are.  I guess that's why uthenera is effectively the ancient elves' way of choosing to die.  It seems like a terribly sad way to go, and yet I suppose it must at least be painless?

 

I'm not sure if it's uthenera or something similar that the Sentinel Elves are in, since they are effectively sleeping and waking to obey Mythal's will--defending the Well.  Uthenera seems more like something that you stay in until you're ready to leave or you die.



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Someone in the Solas thread kindly calculated how long it would have been since Abelas began his sentinal duty: 

 

Arlathan fell in 975 Ancient it can be assumed that Fen'Harel tricked the Elven Gods/started the slave rebellion within 150-200 years before the fall of Arlathan since it was that trickery and the slaughter of the Dreamers that made Elvenan vulnerable to Tevinter. To give a little perspective the Andrastian faith was introduced in 186 Ancient and the Exalted Marches against the Dalish occurred after the Second Blight in 195 Divine . So there was about a 700 year time period between the fall of Elvenan and the Freeing of the Elves and Avaar slaves by Andraste and Shartan, and the founding of the Dales and then another 700 years until the Dales fell and the elves lost their second homeland.

 



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I am here and ready to appreciate! Also this thread has been active for less than an hour and already on page three I love you guys. And...I really like Abelas' fashion sense and I WANT THAT BOLERO IT IS A BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF CLOTHING I am too excited about it but it is the best.

 

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Well, according to Felassan, they had people to tend them and give them special herb concoctions, until they eventually learned to draw energy directly from the Fade.  I suppose sometime after that is when they begin to deteriorate?  Either that, or they only deteriorate if they never learn to draw from the Fade.  Still, you certainly can't live without food and water, no matter how in stasis you are.  I guess that's why uthenera is effectively the ancient elves' way of choosing to die.  It seems like a terribly sad way to go, and yet I suppose it must at least be painless?

 

I'm not sure if it's uthenera or something similar that the Sentinel Elves are in, since they are effectively sleeping and waking to obey Mythal's will--defending the Well.  Uthenera seems more like something that you stay in until you're ready to leave or you die.

 

Do they deteriorate? I've never understood the whole uthenara thing tbh.



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The gold embroidery on his hood, right?  They really did an amazing job on his outfit.



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I am here and ready to appreciate! Also this thread has been active for less than an hour and already on page three I love you guys. And...I really like Abelas' fashion sense and I WANT THAT BOLERO IT IS A BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF CLOTHING I am too excited about it but it is the best.

 

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Do they deteriorate? I've never understood the whole uthenara thing tbh.

 

Others say they do.  I've seen uthenera described in various bits of lore, and I vaguely remember seeing that.  But then you see other bits of lore, like in Masked Empire, and sometimes it seems otherwise?  So... answer:  I do not know.



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This thread has sexy Ancient Elves. I approve  :wub:  :wub:  :wub:


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I am here and ready to appreciate! Also this thread has been active for less than an hour and already on page three I love you guys. And...I really like Abelas' fashion sense and I WANT THAT BOLERO IT IS A BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF CLOTHING I am too excited about it but it is the best.

 

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Do they deteriorate? I've never understood the whole uthenara thing tbh.

 

In the codex is says that the body slowly deteriorates while in a state of uthenera. But I haven't read the Masked Empire yet- it's on my to read list this month. I did see that it made a lot of references to uthenera though, so maybe I can update this thread once I've learned more. 

 

The gold embroidery on his hood, right?  They really did an amazing job on his outfit.

 

All the gold in this game! Morrigan's eyes, Abelas' eyes, the gold on his hood, the little golden details in the tarot... so much beautiful gold! 



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Ahh, a new thread to a very cool character.  My Human inquisitor got along with him pretty well.  I just kept thinking how awesome his armor was and how attractive he looked  :blush:



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Apparently the Arcane Warrior in multiplayer has similar armor.  This pic is from https://gamertitan.c...arcane-warrior/

 

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Apparently the Arcane Warrior in multiplayer has similar armor.  This pic is from https://gamertitan.c...arcane-warrior/

 

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Ooh, we should try and get a closer pic of that. It seems like it's the exact same armor Abelas has, but without the extra shoulder-pads + bolero cape thing + gauntlets. Note the knee-pads and groin area. And the significantly less buff body of the modern elf ): 


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Ok, the OP has been updated with some fan stuff. I will head to bed as it's 3:30am here, but please keep this going! 

 

Other topics to muse upon-

  • what exactly is his class (mage, warrior, etc)? I never got to fight him so I'm unsure. This could probably be remedied by google, but I'm sleepy. 
  • Myers-Briggs personality? :P
  • How could you see BW incorporating Abelas into future DLC or DA4?

Additionally, any good quality videos you could contribute would be great! That way we could see all the possible conversations one can have.



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I wonder if Abelas and crew had coffins that froze time for them and awakened them when it was time to fight?

That post arlathan fall Uthenera was just a remnant of the olden ways and was truly just them dying of old age and just give myths/legend to explain. Just like many myths/legend of preparing the dead.

Not sure if I'm explaining myself right

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Ooh, we should try and get a closer pic of that. It seems like it's the exact same armor Abelas has, but without the extra shoulder-pads + bolero cape thing + gauntlets. Note the knee-pads and groin area. And the significantly less buff body of the modern elf ): 

 

The upgrades have the hood and similar shoulder pads.  Hm, and the same gloves and maybe the bolero thing.  http://forum.bioware...or-pics-thread/

 

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Mmmmm. Dat armor. 


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... Now I need to play multiplayer sometime.  I keep planning on it, but I haven't yet. But that armor!