Oh, don't worry. I'll go down with the braid too, especially if artists continue to whip out awesome art with it.
Vacuum Sealed Armor: Abelas Appreciation & Discussion Thread (spoilers!)
#1051
Posté 01 avril 2015 - 09:07
#1052
Posté 01 avril 2015 - 11:04
I read that wrong.
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#1053
Posté 02 avril 2015 - 01:05
I don't even..
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Yes. You win. Point for legbamel. xD
#1054
Posté 02 avril 2015 - 01:31
There was whipping it out and a braid involved in my misreading. That's all I'll say, except that fandom is very, very lucky I'm not an artist.
#1055
Posté 02 avril 2015 - 02:03
I don't blame you. There was some going down in there too that could have made things really interesting. I wish I could art too.
#1056
Guest_varricschesthair_*
Posté 02 avril 2015 - 12:18
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Going down, whipping it out, braid, Abelas = Temple of Sacred Peen
Just had to go there.
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#1057
Posté 02 avril 2015 - 03:33
Braiding Peens?! ![]()
#1058
Guest_varricschesthair_*
Posté 02 avril 2015 - 05:14
Guest_varricschesthair_*
Braiding peens has to be a euphemism for something that isn't literally braiding peens.
We should ask Zevran. He'd have a few ideas.
#1059
Posté 02 avril 2015 - 08:51
I think you mean the Temple of Sacred Asses. It's an common mistake to make. It's easily overshadowed by its sister Temple of Mythighs.
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#1060
Posté 02 avril 2015 - 10:06
Braiding peens has to be a euphemism for something that isn't literally braiding peens.
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We should ask Zevran. He'd have a few ideas.
I have a mental image of dwarven pubic hair that I could have lived without for all my days.
This thread may kill me yet!
For anyone interested, Part Three of Mythal's Sorrow is up. I'll post Part Four tomorrow.
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#1061
Posté 03 avril 2015 - 04:19
I have a huge backlog of stuff I keep meaning to read, but I'm totally adding your stuff to the list legbamel.
Also, I'm thinking of writing a longer series about Abelas and the Inquisitor because I've had some interest, and I really want to delve into the issues I think they would face, rather than concentrating on the fluff. Y/N?
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#1062
Posté 03 avril 2015 - 05:33
Also, I'm thinking of writing a longer series about Abelas and the Inquisitor because I've had some interest, and I really want to delve into the issues I think they would face, rather than concentrating on the fluff. Y/N?
You know me, I love fluff. And smut
But I do think it'd be interesting seeing how Abelas goes about adjusting to modern Thedas. It's a much more abrupt toss into the deep end for him than it was for Solas...and Solas didn't handle it all that well to begin with.
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#1063
Posté 03 avril 2015 - 05:43
You know me, I love fluff. And smut
But I do think it'd be interesting seeing how Abelas goes about adjusting to modern Thedas. It's a much more abrupt toss into the deep end for him than it was for Solas...and Solas didn't handle it all that well to begin with.
As chill as Solas comes across - I feel like internally he was like 'oh god oh god oh god oh god'. Whereas Abelas is more 'welp...this is what my life is now. not great but it's a life'
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#1064
Posté 03 avril 2015 - 05:46
As chill as Solas comes across - I feel like internally he was like 'oh god oh god oh god oh god'. Whereas Abelas is more 'welp...this is what my life is now. not great but it's a life'
That's true. Abelas seems more resigned to what the world has become, and less likely to run off and do something monumentally stupid to try and fix it.
What? Solas? Oh, I'm totally not stink-eyeing Solas ![]()
#1065
Posté 03 avril 2015 - 06:01
That's true. Abelas seems more resigned to what the world has become, and less likely to run off and do something monumentally stupid to try and fix it.
What? Solas? Oh, I'm totally not stink-eyeing Solas
I'm more willing to forgive our fade nerd after I had a long deep meditation about what he's going through. I have a lot of ancient elvhen feels RN. Frankly - this is real talk - i think his romance did his character an injustice a bit. I know it's been brought up here. It's just not an appropriate lens in which to actually analyse him or his story. I get that the "feels" for the breakup exist, but beyond that he's incredibly sad and fascinating. It's just been nagging me the further I get from the release of the game. Solas is this flotsam of a lost empire sort of just floating around the world. I dunno - Im a little emo over lost history. And he's a living piece of it - for Thedas. Oh So-las(said in Cass voice).
Same goes for Abelas. As much as I was hardcore shipping Lavellan to him, I am wondering if it would just be better not to(if he ever came back). Though I say this and then we have a Sten situation on our hands and I'm cranky that I can't climb the hot elf next game.
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#1066
Posté 03 avril 2015 - 06:17
I'm more willing to forgive our fade nerd after I had a long deep meditation about what he's going through. I have a lot of ancient elvhen feels RN. Frankly - this is real talk - i think his romance did his character an injustice a bit. I know it's been brought up here. It's just not an appropriate lens in which to actually analyse him or his story. I get that the "feels" for the breakup exist, but beyond that he's incredibly sad and fascinating. It's just been nagging me the further I get from the release of the game. Solas is this flotsam of a lost empire sort of just floating around the world. I dunno - Im a little emo over lost history. And he's a living piece of it - for Thedas. Oh So-las(said in Cass voice).
Same goes for Abelas. As much as I was hardcore shipping Lavellan to him, I am wondering if it would just be better not to(if he ever came back). Though I say this and then we have a Sten situation on our hands and I'm cranky that I can't climb the hot elf next game.
I actually like the idea of Abelas as not so much a romantic interest, as a wanderer. I mean, the Temple falls, he is finally free. I would like to think he wanders a bit around Thedas, as much to understand the world around him as to really feel what it means to be free of obligation. It would be interesting to see the world from his eyes. I just don't want him tied to an institution just yet.
This is not to say I want him alone. I want him to meet people, to enjoy these connections.
But I also enjoy thinking of him like the Wanderers in Old English literature, (but less depressing). He is finally unmoored.
(I do love the shipping stuff!! I do! This is my weird preference talking. I mean, the one Abelas thing I wrote I shipped him with a book. So.)
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#1067
Posté 03 avril 2015 - 06:24
I actually like the idea of Abelas as not so much a romantic interest, as a wanderer. I mean, the Temple falls, he is finally free. I would like to think he wanders a bit around Thedas, as much to understand the world around him as to really feel what it means to be free of obligation. It would be interesting to see the world from his eyes. I just don't want him tied to an institution just yet.
This is not to say I want him alone. I want him to meet people, to enjoy these connections.
But I also enjoy thinking of him like the Wanderers in Old English literature, (but less depressing). He is finally unmoored.
(I do love the shipping stuff!! I do! This is my weird preference talking. I mean, the one Abelas thing I wrote I shipped him with a book. So.)
It was a beautiful ship. You shipped him with knowledge. The last piece of knowledge the temple had. Maybe that old lady died and he promised her that he would protect it. SENTINEL FEELS.
But yeah. I would very much enjoy seeing his perspective wandering Thedas. He doesn't hav enearly the same baggage as Solas does. Not the same urgency to "gotta fix it!". he can just...be. Which I like more. Him just kind of being woven in and out of the people of Thedas' lives and his own thoughts on them. His thoughts on his journeys. I would read this. Would probably be pretty powerful.
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#1068
Posté 03 avril 2015 - 07:00
You know me, I love fluff. And smut
But I do think it'd be interesting seeing how Abelas goes about adjusting to modern Thedas. It's a much more abrupt toss into the deep end for him than it was for Solas...and Solas didn't handle it all that well to begin with.
I almost feel like it would be more about how modern life adjusts to him. As others have said, I don't think he would have weird panic as much as a resignation that this is his life. But I imagine seeing him wandering around would be quite a shock for many people in Thedas. I'm also curious as to how the racism present throughout would effect him, how he would react to things like the presence of the Qun, the Mage and Templat war, Orlesian political unrest... He's been locked away for so long, and suddenly this world is just absolutely heaving. The Inquisitor could help guide him, give him advice, and perhaps he would stay with them a short while, seeing where they went, the things they have to do to keep the people together.
I have a lot of Abelas feels and things I think would be so interesting from his perspective. It would be a nice challenge too. I mean, knowing me, if I wrote it I would probably eventually have fluff in there, but I want something so much deeper as well.
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#1069
Posté 03 avril 2015 - 07:48
It was a beautiful ship. You shipped him with knowledge. The last piece of knowledge the temple had. Maybe that old lady died and he promised her that he would protect it. SENTINEL FEELS.
But yeah. I would very much enjoy seeing his perspective wandering Thedas. He doesn't hav enearly the same baggage as Solas does. Not the same urgency to "gotta fix it!". he can just...be. Which I like more. Him just kind of being woven in and out of the people of Thedas' lives and his own thoughts on them. His thoughts on his journeys. I would read this. Would probably be pretty powerful.
This!
This will be blasphemous, but I really like the notion that he is not tethered to the Inquisition. I am attached to the idea of exploring the little seen pieces of the world through his eyes, of opening up such scenarios. A tavern scene. Seeing the ruins for the first time. This is what I want. It would be powerful.
I do enjoy reading about his relationship with the Inquisitor, so keep doing that. YES!
But my personal predilection is for a wandering figure.
This is coming from someone deeply, deeply attached to Corypheus. So. Make of this what you will.
#1070
Guest_varricschesthair_*
Posté 03 avril 2015 - 07:50
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Hmmmm... if Abelas is in the next game and my (whatever it may be) does not get to at least kiss him it will be Haagen Daz hellspiral all over again. Don't even suggest it unless you want to be responsible for the fangirl tears. The armor is coming off!
The only reason I currently ship him with Lavellan is because that is all I have to go on. I did consider the Warden but then I realized when writing the fanfiction that was going to alienate those who have only played Inquisition. It was a cheap thing to do really because I either see him with another ancient elf or strangely getting mixed up with my Warden. Lavellan is like a doomed melty popsicle to me. Something bad is going to happen. I can feel it in my water.
As for Solas... hear me out. Ameridan was the final straw. I look at Ameridan and Abelas and Solas doesn't do it for me. In my strange little opinion from some of the comments I see thrown around I get the distinct impression that most of what people are finding attractive is the fact he is a god. I'm not trying to sound mean here so I will be careful how I say this. I mean, when I read things like wolf god sex and a god loves my Lavellan and Solas has all this power I don't think wow people really love that character. People love power or maybe the fact being loved by a god (use that term loosely) it makes their Lavellan a very special snowflake. I do appreciate it when people say I love this character because of his role in history or the knowledge he must possess or because he is genuinely interesting... that I understand. But all too often I see the former. Don't get me wrong, it's a fascinating concept to have the affection of a being that powerful but then when I look at the powerful being and his relationship with Lavellan it troubles me on many levels.
Part of the reason I love Abelas is the fact he isn't special. He isn't the only ancient elf, he isn't a god or a person of legend. He's a dude that took his duty seriously and kept his history alive by keeping the well intact or at least that's how I think he sees it. He is very honest to the point of brutal and I think if he was written well he would make an excellent companion. He also has an amazing body. For whatever reason people often miss it or don't notice. o.O
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#1071
Posté 03 avril 2015 - 08:01
Abelas is sexual. Yes, those thighs. Also everything else.
I think part of the reason I like Abelas without romantic attachment is that I think sometimes the romance clouds over other aspects of the character and soften really interesting edges. That the conversation becomes all about the romance. I want other sharp edges. You know?
Not that this happens always. And there are some beautiful, hypnotic, meaningful pieces of fan work that explore eros and romance in this particular pairing. I enjoy these pieces.
But, I guess I just see an opportunity for deep exploration with him that is separate from the romance. I'm not saying one is better than the other. Just my personal preference.
Again, this is coming from a person who writes about temple sex . . . repeatedly.
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#1072
Posté 03 avril 2015 - 08:03
Abelas, we know hardly a thing about. I don't see how anyone "ships" him with anyone. IMO it's the fact that he's a cipher that lets people project romantic fantasies on him. But eh, if you think there's not a bit of "I'm so special" about the idea of getting a thousands-year-old mythical elf to be your waifu, then I think you're kidding yourself. It's the same dynamic as the wolf god thing.
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#1073
Guest_varricschesthair_*
Posté 03 avril 2015 - 08:11
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I like Solas because he's a Fade nerd with an interesting, somewhat contradictory and complex morality. He's also very grounded and confident despite being a reclusive nerd. None of that geeky shyness thing.
Abelas, we know hardly a thing about. I don't see how anyone "ships" him with anyone. IMO it's the fact that he's a cipher that lets people project romantic fantasies on him. But eh, if you think there's not a bit of "I'm so special" about the idea of getting a thousands-year-old mythical elf to be your waifu, then I think you're kidding yourself. It's the same dynamic as the wolf god thing.
No it really isn't in my opinion. Do you see me going on to the Solas thread saying it? No and for this very reason. I respect people's opinions on the matter. This is just my opinion. I don't think I'm right and I don't think one explanation fits all. Again, Abelas is not the only ancient elf. Personally, I find it odd more people aren't on about the ancient elf from TME, Felasson (I know I did not spell it correctly).
The reason I really love Abelas and want to see him again in any context, including a non romantic one is because he reminds me more than any elf in the DA universe of Tolkien's elves. The sorrow, the constant in a changing world, clinging on to the past while the world goes to hell etc. I eat that stuff for breakfast. Until Solas came along I had little interest in DA elven history. That is why I initial loved Solas to death. He bridged the gap for me and brought the lore to life. But I am starting to understand where Giton is coming from with no romance for the ancient elves.For me, what they potentially represent is a thing that is almost sacred to me. I do believe the romance with Solas ruined his character for me not for anyone else. That's for them to decide.
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#1074
Posté 03 avril 2015 - 08:22
I wonder how well Abelas would fare with a City Elf companion? I can just imagine the disgust he has at first... followed by a growing tolerance for the no doubt relentless series of questions this poor little elf would throw at him. It's the idea of having this commonality but being from such different worlds that appeals to me. Not even on a romantic level- he just gets saddled with this incredibly persistent person who wants to learn and sees Abelas as his or her opportunity to do so, and Ableas can perhaps question them in turn.
#1075
Posté 03 avril 2015 - 08:35
I like Solas because he's a Fade nerd with an interesting, somewhat contradictory and complex morality. He's also very grounded and confident despite being a reclusive nerd. None of that geeky shyness thing.
Abelas, we know hardly a thing about. I don't see how anyone "ships" him with anyone. IMO it's the fact that he's a cipher that lets people project romantic fantasies on him. But eh, if you think there's not a bit of "I'm so special" about the idea of getting a thousands-year-old mythical elf to be your waifu, then I think you're kidding yourself. It's the same dynamic as the wolf god thing.
I don't think this is really fair.
Solas gets a lot of people's fantasies projected onto him as well. So much so, that it often derails conversation or flattens the character. For example, not all the time, but enough to be noticeable, the untoward aspects of Solas's character get filed down to fit a very specific narrative. And at times, because of how emotional the romance is, that conversation overshadows others.
If I ever write Solas again (he is fun but there are other ponies I am riding at the moment)--it will be Solas/Cassandra BFF. That is the kind of thing I want to read, at this moment.
And personally, I am thirsty for character interactions outside of the Inquisitor/whoever. You know? There are tons of fringe characters with really interesting stories.
Abelas offers a very interesting viewpoint. He is attractive because of that. Not because he is a Twilight-style waifu.
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