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[Babelas]

Why do you think Abelas is angry with Solas? It's weird but when I first did the temple sequence I got that impression too. But I can't tell if it's because of the way Abelas speaks or if there is more to it. 

 

This is how I see Mythal and I am probably very very wrong but I like to speculate. I think Mythal's power, the type Solas took away from Flemeth is energy. It's not the being or the soul or entity that fused with Flemeth. It's just energy. That's my guess and I think from what I read I understood that Flemeth had been nurturing that Mythal spark and the power has built up over time. But Mythal, what is left of her, is a being or soul with knowledge. I think that is what Flemeth left Morrigan and I think that is what the sentinels are bound to, not the raw energy. I don't think Solas would have wanted that part because it would conflict with his own ideas. It's also why I don't think he would drink from the well because then he would be bound to that soul and would lose part of his own self. Does any of this make sense? lololol That's how I understand it but I don't really know for sure. In regards to Abelas, one thing Solas said stuck out... there are other duties. I really want to know what that means.

 

I don't know... I'm in two minds about the avenge Mythal. Part of something Abelas said made it sound like his only duty was to guard the well. When it's gone it sounds like on the surface that he and the sentinels are finished and they want to sleep. Where are all these sleepy elves hanging out? The other part of me thinks Abelas would be angry with Solas if he found out what he did. I don't know if he would seek vengeance. He'd probably think trying to help Shemlen a big waste of time I do love that arrogant side to him. It's nice to see it on an elf instead of the noble humans for a change. If he does end up bound to Morrigan, I think Abelas will find the nearest cliff and jump

 

Agreed... I really hope if he makes it into DA4 that he is extremely complex character and not easy to win over or romance. I said not easy! Not impossible! Naked elf flesh for DA4!

[Serelir]

I hope they don't just go to sleep! That would be terrible for the rest of us. I would see it as my duty to find them and wake them up.

[Babelas]

I hope they don't just go to sleep! That would be terrible for the rest of us. I would see it as my duty to find them and wake them up.

ROFL! And I thought he was grumpy in the temple. Imagine waking him up from his 10,000 and something odd years nap? *hides*

 

I love your signature I don't recall hearing that dialogue between Bull and Blackwall but I suspect it's because my dialogue still doesn't fire correctly on my pc. 

[Kestrel]

Abelas knew that Mythal was either locked away or in some kind of permanent rest, as per this codex entry: http://dragonage.wik...e_Elven_Writing

 

I have to imagine that if he knew his Goddess walked the earth again, but made no attempt to reach out to him, his confusion would be overwhelming. He spent so much time being faithful to her, upholding her sacred space and teaching others about her ways, that's almost spitting in his face that she made no attempt to make her presence known. On the other hand, I doubt he would be happy that Solas took away his one chance to reconnect with her and perhaps see her in the flesh again. 

[Abelas Forever!]

@Babelas
I think Abelas is angry at Solas because he knows that he sealed the gods away and didn't approve of it. Maybe he thought that elven gods were needed and when the empire fell he accuses Solas of it as well as the current state of the ancient elves. That is what I believe although I think other possibilities could be that he knew Solas before and didn't like him. Probably because Solas was so different then. One other possibility could be that he doesn't recognise Solas and thinks he is a modern elf.

I think that Solas didn't want to drink from the well because he didn't want to be bound to Mythal. Although they are friends and they seem to have at least one common goal. I think that they have also goals of their own such as Mythal wanted to give her god-hood to Morrigan and I believe that is a goal which Solas wasn't interested in. I also think that even if they are friends Solas wouldn't want to be bound to Mythal because then he wouldn't be free to do what he must. I guess I'm trying to say that even if they are good friends they probably don't trust each other completely. Anyway even if the idea of those who are bound is against Solas' ideas I think he would used them if he needed them because he is willing to sacrifice everything for his mission. Besides I believe that if he wouldn't need those who are bound, he could set them free.

Even if I believe that people who were bound to Mythal are now bound to Solas it could also be that they are now bound to Morrigan.  For some reason I have a very strong feeling that those who were bound to Mythal are now bound to Solas. Maybe because I think the power isn't just energy, maybe it also has some other properties like the well was a key to open the Eluvian so maybe the power is something similar. Maybe it can be used to open different kind of eluvians and control those who are bound. Because Solas has his power as well as Mythal's power then he is stronger now. I'm not sure did Mythal/Flemeth had plans for Morrigan as well. Most likely. So she definitely gave her knowledge. I guess it could be possible that Flemeth/Mythal gave her also Abelas and the Sentinels so that she could lead them. Although it seems that Solas also gives them instructions where to go. Anyway I would like to see Abelas' face if he is bound to Morrigan and he finds that out

I think that Morrigan and Abelas could be a nice couple but I hope that wouldn't happen because I want that Abelas will fell in love with my DA4 PC.
 

[Abelas Forever!]

I wonder did Abelas or other sentinels use that Eluvian to travel around Thedas because Abelas seems to know quite a lot about the world if he has been at the temple all the time. I mean he says something that every time he wakes up the world has changed even worse. But how could he know if he only meets intruders? and he propably don't speak with them..

[Sable Rhapsody]

Hi, I'm still alive. And I'm still writing plenty of Dragon Age fan fiction and theories on Abelas. The Albatross has over 12k words now, so... there's that. Have I missed much?

 

http://archiveofouro...hapters/8160543

 

I'm still alive too!  Though taking a fandom break apart from BSN.  *runs off to catch up on chapters*

[Babelas]

Ummm so..... stupid question. Is this last DLC the end of the DA franchise or just the end of Inquisition. I keep catching rumors here and there but I was wondering if anyone knows?

[Caddius]

Ummm so..... stupid question. Is this last DLC the end of the DA franchise or just the end of Inquisition. I keep catching rumors here and there but I was wondering if anyone knows?

According to the leak it will be the last DLC. Not the last DA game. Laidlaw's mentioned plans for a sequel before even Inquisition came out. They've said they plan to keep on making them so long as people are interested, and Inquisition has been rather popular.

And then people are theorizing that the leaked DLC may be the last, but it's not the next. From the sounds of it, they're nearly finished with whatever they're working on, while the survey is something you'd do at the start of production.

[Abelas Forever!]

According to the leak it will be the last DLC. Not the last DA game. Laidlaw's mentioned plans for a sequel before even Inquisition came out. They've said they plan to keep on making them so long as people are interested, and Inquisition has been rather popular.

And then people are theorizing that the leaked DLC may be the last, but it's not the next. From the sounds of it, they're nearly finished with whatever they're working on, while the survey is something you'd do at the start of production.

Really? I thought the next DLC will be the last DLC for DA:I.

[Caddius]

Really? I thought the next DLC will be the last DLC for DA:I.

*shrug* No one knows outside of Bioware. But it does seem strange that the survey for pricing, with a mixed bag of events, would only come out this late. It may just be wishful thinking, but I'm hoping for that rumored Deep Roads DLC, then the finale, at the very least.

[Abelas Forever!]

*shrug* No one knows outside of Bioware. But it does seem strange that the survey for pricing, with a mixed bag of events, would only come out this late. It may just be wishful thinking, but I'm hoping for that rumored Deep Roads DLC, then the finale, at the very least.

I have been thinking that it would be strange if they wouldn't make more than 2 single player DLCs. Unless the last one is extension but then it would be very cheap.

[Babelas]

From what I do understand it is the last dlc for Inquisition and then that is it. Right? That's how I understand it because you have to decide whether to save the Inquisition or not. I really want to know who the big bad is. I'm just hopeful there will be more story after this game. 

[Abelas Forever!]

I suspect "the one who started it" is Solas. If he isn't I still think he will be present. Anyway I think it seems unlikely that Abelas would be there because nobody mentions ancient elves or sentinels. Anyway the change of him appearing on that DLC was quite small to  begin with. Maybe I'm wrong. It would be nice to see at least a glimpse of him and hear his voice.

[Babelas]

I suspect "the one who started it" is Solas. If he isn't I still think he will be present. Anyway I think it seems unlikely that Abelas would be there because nobody mentions ancient elves or sentinels. Anyway the change of him appearing on that DLC was quite small to  begin with. Maybe I'm wrong. It would be nice to see at least a glimpse of him and hear his voice.

Do you think Solas came from the Void? I sometimes wonder if he is more akin to the Forgotten Ones than to the elven gods. I go back and forth. Wolves in my culture are sacred animals. Yet, we have stories of good and evil wolves fighting each other. (that might just be my drunken uncle talking) I sometimes wonder if Solas is like the grey wolf...not actually the grey wolf but that life for him falls in the grey. I do hope that this next part of the story makes the lives that were sacrificed make sense.There needs to be a sound basis for what Solas has done. If I viewed this as the wolf spirit protecting the tribe then I can understand the logic behind it. If it's just a guy with some magic and less of a protector then it's going to be weird. 

[Abelas Forever!]

Do you think Solas came from the Void? I sometimes wonder if he is more akin to the Forgotten Ones than to the elven gods. I go back and forth. Wolves in my culture are sacred animals. Yet, we have stories of good and evil wolves fighting each other. (that might just be my drunken uncle talking) I sometimes wonder if Solas is like the grey wolf...not actually the grey wolf but that life for him falls in the grey. I do hope that this next part of the story makes the lives that were sacrificed make sense.There needs to be a sound basis for what Solas has done. If I viewed this as the wolf spirit protecting the tribe then I can understand the logic behind it. If it's just a guy with some magic and less of a protector then it's going to be weird. 

I think anything is possible But somehow Fen'Harel is special. Maybe his other parent is a creator and the other parent is a forgotten one. That would explain how both parties trust him. Although it's possible that he is none of them or he is a forgotten one or a creator and because he was so cunning he was able to become trusted ally for both parties. I'm not sure how evil the forgotten ones are. I think it might be that they were just rivals of the creators. Besides the creators seems to be quite twisted as well. I guess it could be possible that the forgotten one are even worse but I like to think that they aren't. They probably aren't good people but maybe not so evil as people think they are.

 

I think it's a fact that somebody slain Mythal. But it's not known who. Was that person a forgotten one or a creator? Abelas and the sentinels locked them up in the temple to guard it after that. It seems this happened before the Tevinter conquered Arlathan. It also seems that they are waiting for something. Maybe they know that Mythal is still alive. It also seems that Abelas thinks that who ever drinks from the well becomes bound to Mythal like they are bound so I think he knows that Mythal still lives. So many things are unknown that almost anything is possible.

[Abelas Forever!]

I just played the Temple of Mythal and I didn't have Solas in my party. When it was time to decide who will drink from the well and I was talking with Abelas and asked him what he is going to do or something like that. Usually Solas says something to him in this point but because he wasn't around then Dorian suggested that what if he would go to Tevinter and tell those elves about their history. It was interesting to see that he was open to that idea. Maybe because I had completed all those rituals. Previously I thought that he would never think about that kind of option but it seems he is more open-minded that I had thought he would be. It would be interesting to see him teaching those elves about their heritage. Maybe the next DA games takes place in Tevinter and we'll see him there teaching those elves

[Babelas]

Why do I see him holding a very long stick while trying to teach the elves about their true heritage? I can envision many elven headaches after the lesson

[Abelas Forever!]

If Abelas goes to Tevinter to teach the elves about their heritage, it's probably going to be very diffucult because most of the elves are slaves and the people probably don't like the idea that somebody goes there and tells about elven greatness to their slaves. Maybe Abelas can use that very long stick to teach the humans that elves should be respected

[Jedi Master of Orion]

I wouldn't have expected him to care about Tevinter elves at all actually.

[Tielis]

Wouldn't it be dangerous for him in Tevinter?

[Abelas Forever!]

Wouldn't it be dangerous for him in Tevinter?

I think so and that's why it was so strange that Dorian suggested that he would go to there.

[Babelas]

I somewhat got the impression Dorian wanted any reason to talk to Abelas. He had to fascinate Dorian and I suspect he felt a mixture of guilt for what Tevinter had done, even if it wasn't as bad as first thought and relief. Maybe Dorian was going to accompany him to help keep him safe?

 

My first pt, I remember trying to keep Abelas talking because I had so many questions. He wasn't very cooperative with my Inky!  I think it's because her eyes kept drifting to his thighs   Awkward with the Dread Wolf standing there giving him the evil eye of jealousy.

 

I can think of a few million mages in Tevinter who would want to get their hands on Abelas. He would be a prize worth owning I would assume. Look at how they showed off Fenris. I can also see a few million mages from Tevinter dead after trying to own said elf 

 

If Abelas had really wanted to educate the modern day elves, I think working through the Inquisition would have been his safest bet. That too would have depended on how you played your Inky. Hopefully, Solas will find a way to help the sentinels. After the conversation between the two, it sounded like Solas was telling him where to go. I wonder if they can speak to each other in the Fade? I personally see Abelas and sentinels heading through eluvians to some distant place unless Solas convinced them to help him. We might catch up with Solas and find he has some shiny body guards in this next dlc.

[Abelas Forever!]

I somewhat got the impression Dorian wanted any reason to talk to Abelas. He had to fascinate Dorian and I suspect he felt a mixture of guilt for what Tevinter had done, even if it wasn't as bad as first thought and relief. Maybe Dorian was going to accompany him to help keep him safe?

 

My first pt, I remember trying to keep Abelas talking because I had so many questions. He wasn't very cooperative with my Inky!  I think it's because her eyes kept drifting to his thighs   Awkward with the Dread Wolf standing there giving him the evil eye of jealousy.

 

I can think of a few million mages in Tevinter who would want to get their hands on Abelas. He would be a prize worth owning I would assume. Look at how they showed off Fenris. I can also see a few million mages from Tevinter dead after trying to own said elf 

 

If Abelas had really wanted to educate the modern day elves, I think working through the Inquisition would have been his safest bet. That too would have depended on how you played your Inky. Hopefully, Solas will find a way to help the sentinels. After the conversation between the two, it sounded like Solas was telling him where to go. I wonder if they can speak to each other in the Fade? I personally see Abelas and sentinels heading through eluvians to some distant place unless Solas convinced them to help him. We might catch up with Solas and find he has some shiny body guards in this next dlc.

Dorian wants to improve Tevinter so in my opinion it's not far-fetched that he could help Abelas to teach the elves in Tevinter about their heritage. Besides Dorian is going to Tevinter at some point. Maybe he takes Abelas with him

I'm just thinking that can Abelas go to Tevinter and be free? The idea that he'll have to be slave in order to teach the elves in Tevinter makes me sad because I want him to be free.

I believe that the ancient elves can meet in the Fade or at least some of them can. Solas was able to bring Lavellan in the Fade so I don't see why others couldn't do the same. I wonder can they spy other people from the Fade as well? Because somehow Abelas seems to know quite a lot about Dalish and the world itself. Maybe some of them have travelled around the world and found out what is happening but it would be easier to do that in Fade or by talking with spirits.

 

I think it would be easier for Abelas to teach the Dalish about their heritage and not go to Tevinter. But it could be that the Dalish don't want to listen to him.

It would be nice to see Abelas and the sentinels as Solas' bodyguards! It would be cool if there would be consequences whether you had Solas with you when you met Abelas. If Solas is with you then he can convince Abelas and the sentinels to go somewhere where they wait for him. When Solas leaves the inquisition he will go to that place. When the last DLC comes out the inquisitor will hopefully see Solas again and because he is with the sentinels then we can see Abelas again. Then some big secrets will be revealed etc. Then comes out DA4 and its events happen in Tevinter and for some reason Abelas has gone there to educate the elves and because of reasons he will help your new DA4 PC in your missions there whatever they are. If Solas wasn't with you in the Temple then we don't see Abelas in the DLC with him but he will eventually go Tevinter. Morrigan really didn't kill Abelas and he will go to Tevinter in that case as well. If Morrigan "killed" him then he is very angry at her I wouldn't blame him for that.

[Babelas]

I had contemplated a relationship between Dorian and Abelas. But I don't think Abelas would be into humans. I can see Abelas as bisexual but only interested in elves. I think he's just old fashioned that way. Hell... it's hard to see him with just any elf. He seems so particular about everything. LoL. 

 

Can you see Abelas submitting to humans? I can't. I think it would be very dangerous for Abelas to go to Tevinter. I think Dorian means well but how would they keep him safe? Then again, I like to think he can turn into a dragon. He could just snack on some magisters if they tried to hurt him. 

 

I think if Abelas was presented to a Keeper like Marathari first along with some of his sentinels it might be a place to start. Anyone can be closed minded. But I think the Dalish would be more receptive to him because of his markings. They identify with that so strongly. Solas was at a disadvantage because of that straight away. Abelas could demonstrate his fluency in elvish as well and I think the height of him and his sentinels and their armour would also raise some questions. There aren't many elves like that. The biggest problem for Abelas is that he himself does not identify with the current age of elves. They aren't his people. I still do not know what he means by that and why. So many assumptions were made about that comment but we really don't know what he means by it. I think he is appalled by elves hiding in the forest. Can't imagine what he would think of a city elf. The words human pet come to mind unfortunately and I loved my city elf Origin Warden. 

 

I wonder if maybe some Dalish have found the temple in the past? But I also think like you that they can do what Solas does and watch dreams. Interesting Abelas could speak the common tongue but I did love the detail of having the guide speak only in the ancient tongue. That was a nice touch. 

 

I still think Abelas could have survived Morrigan's backstabbing. There could be a scene where if you chose to kill him it shows the other sentinels coming to his aid after you leave the temple and he leaves. Either way, I wished after finding out Morrigan could kill him that I'd had the option to kill her instead and take Abelas with me