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[Babelas]

I can show you this straight away. It came from padme 4000 deviantart site. She has been modelling his face from scratch but she didn't have the use of the flycam for the profile.

 

 

I will put some of the models up in a bit. I'm still extracting crap, Hehehe.

[Abelas Forever!]

Babelas you mentioned that Solas used oil to slip into his sentinel armor. Maybe Abelas also uses oil... Does that mean he doesn't have underpants? I hope the armor is comfortable.

[Babelas]

I'm going to put this under spoilers even though it has all been posted before because I think people forgot about some of this. Makes the new dlc even clearer in relation to Solas. It's from the game files.

 

Spoiler

 

LevelObjectID : 

CharacterName : Abelas

Gender : Male

CharacterDescription : An ancient elf. A man of strong conviction, Abelas speaks with authority - he has an impressive presence to him. Has a 

large accumulation of wisdom, but no interest in sharing it with those outside his cause. Abelas was charged centuries 

ago with guardimg a temple site sacred to his people, and leads the soldiers protecting it.

SpeechPattern : 

Accent : Welsh//Irish

Race : Elven

Appearance : A warrior - wearing sentinel armor - in his 30s. Stern, unyielding.

CharacterArchetype : 

CharacterType : Medium

 

 

Myt_Well_Of_Sorrows

LevelObjectID : Well of Sorrows

CharacterName : Well of Sorrows

Gender : Female

CharacterDescription : The voice of the Well of Sorrows, an ancient eleven artifact that contains the wisdom of hundreds of elven priests who gave up their essence to it. The "voice" is creepy, and made up of multiple whispers. [processing]

 

 

CharacterDescription : This is Flemeth from the previous two games. In this game, Flemeth's story comes to a head-- she knew that Solas would summon her, and that he would need to steal her power to further his plans. She knew that because they are both elven gods... yet Solas has slept for a thousand years and his power dwindled, while she was killed long ago and a spark escaped from her into the body she now holds. She has nurtured that spark, and knew that Solas would need it. He was once her oldest friend, but she knows that in his drive to restore the elven people he will kill anyone-- even her. She intends to let him have the power, so long as she can pass the essence of her god-hood onto Morrigan, a gift Flemeth had always planned for her daughter yet one Morrigan misunderstood as hostile possession.

SpeechPattern :  As in previous games.

 

CharacterName : Solas Plot Summoner Mage

Gender : Male

CharacterDescription : A mage from Kirkwall who was forced to leave after the Kirkwall Circle went rogue. He has been on the run from templars and bandits and is less a rebel than a scared man looking for safety. He has summoned a demon to defend him and his friends from bandits, but lost control of it, and now the demon is attacking people. General voice nervous, but intelligent enough to try to gloss over details that make him look bad.

 

 

I thought the info about the mage was interesting. 

 

Armor pictures coming. Abelas definitely got the thighs. Solas got the backside.

[Abelas Forever!]

I haven't seen the description of Abelas! Thank you Babelas!

[aldien]

I haven't seen the description of Abelas! Thank you Babelas!

No problem sugar dumpling. So...... does anyone know how long tweets can be?

 

I'm thinking about running with the idea of mentioning a solution to the Abelas death that may or may not have happened. Pssst (Aldien is my troll ego.. love Babelas)

 

Anyway... so I could say something like:

 

Dear Mr. Weekes,

 

On behalf of the Abelas thread we offer our deepest love and we promise to buy all your books. Now that we have buttered you up we would ask most respectfully if  you would please consider bringing Abelas into DA4 as a love interest? We realize that in some very wrong and horrible playthroughs he could be stabbed by Morrigan through his thick gold plated armor. Many people have expressed an interest in having an ancient elf from the Temple of Mythal as a potential LI. We think we have a strange solution. If the choice to kill him was made would it be possible to have the same voice actor and model with a different head to be the ancient elf love interest instead? That way both parties get what they want or don't want. In this scenario their backstories could be potentially similar since they both were together in the Temple of Mythal. We realize resources are limited, but some of us do not want to give up on Abelas without a fight. 

 

Thank you,

Abelas Thread.

 

So I can't tweet all of that and it needs editing (feel free to help me edit). How could I send this to him? Any suggestions? We should add something about the voice actor's dreamy voice too.

[Babelas]

*sigh* I don't know then. I'm going to go write. I had a request to give Cullen some loving. Might pair him with one of the Elvhen for an interesting romance.

[Abelas Forever!]

aldien I googled and tweet can contain 140 characters..

 

I love your text but personally I wouldn't send him a possible  solution to Abelas' death.

 

This is very hard but I modifed your text a "little" bit. Here are the results:

 

 

Abelas thread sends their deepest love. Could U consider him as LI? In certain cases he seems to die but some of us don't want to give up.

It should be under 140 characters. I don't know. What others think?

[Abelas Forever!]

I don't know but this part makes me laugh "Could U"

[Babelas]

LoL I love your editing. It's straight to the point. The whole debate is depressing me. It's frustrating because I know there are tons of people who feel the same otherwise I can't explain why the read the crap I write or draw the fanart or write stories about him etc... We just end up with the trolls. But I do really appreciate all of you who tried to make a case for him in DA4. You have my love

[Babelas]

I don't know but this part makes me laugh "Could U"

Cause you crackers

[Abelas Forever!]

Cause you crackers? What does that mean?

 

People like to argue. All that matters is what writers want to do with him and we don't know that. But I won't give up!

[Babelas]

Cause you crackers? What does that mean?

 

People like to argue. All that matters is what writers want to do with him and we don't know that. But I won't give up!

As insane as me. That's what it means I just get disheartened. The character evokes strong emotions in me and from what I've seen on that thread others too, You and Tielis have been fighting hard on there. I think I'm too attached. It became personal after 8 months of writing him and then to have to try and explain to others how much the character means to you is just... painful. 

[Vorathrad]

 

 

SWEET CROTCHES OF ARLATHAN THIS IMAGE IS EPIC!!! Did you tweeted it already to PW? I need a t-shirt with this!!

 

I have to go cook lunch for tomorrow but I'm totally coming back to catch up later, this thread is just becoming too amazing.

[Vorathrad]

Btw, amazing rant of uncomfortable!Solas too 

 

I was the one who volunteered to tweet, I can send Silent's suggestion if you want (and that pic, pretty pleaaaaase) 

 

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I never saw that text about Abelas (and the one about Flemeth sending her godhood to Morrigan, so it wasn't just forum speculation... ugh) It also confirms what I thought about him and Flemythal, that she knew he would be willing to kill her so she decided to let him have the power instead; I think in a way Solas plans will also serve to deal Mythal's revenge, so she doesn't need to fight him and she doesn't want to. Flemeth is also my favourite character, I will miss her a lot. 

 

I have been thinking about the yellow eyes, maybe they're related to dragons too? Others have said that they are in a way a sign of Mythal, as Morrigan has them too. But they could also be a hint of strong presence of dragon blood? (I'm obsessed with dragon blood, I know) Or it may be simply that they look kewl and otherwordly.

 

"he has an impressive presence to him"

 

Impressive indeed 

 

 

[Babelas]

Btw, amazing rant of uncomfortable!Solas too 

 

I was the one who volunteered to tweet, I can send Silent's suggestion if you want (and that pic, pretty pleaaaaase) 

 

Spoiler

I never saw that text about Abelas (and the one about Flemeth sending her godhood to Morrigan, so it wasn't just forum speculation... ugh) It also confirms what I thought about him and Flemythal, that she knew he would be willing to kill her so she decided to let him have the power instead; I think in a way Solas plans will also serve to deal Mythal's revenge, so she doesn't need to fight him and she doesn't want to. Flemeth is also my favourite character, I will miss her a lot. 

 

I have been thinking about the yellow eyes, maybe they're related to dragons too? Others have said that they are in a way a sign of Mythal, as Morrigan has them too. But they could also be a hint of strong presence of dragon blood? (I'm obsessed with dragon blood, I know) Or it may be simply that they look kewl and otherwordly.

 

"he has an impressive presence to him"

 

Impressive indeed 

B*tches... no I have no idea why i just said that. You evoke these things in me Vorathrad.

 

Tweet away. I would really appreciate it.  Although.... 1. That picture isn't mine. Found it on tumblr so it was already public. If you feel uncomfortable tweeting it I can ask the person who manipulated it first. But I seriously doubt they would mind. I have already put in my order for the t-shirt version of that piccie

 

2. My husband just broke a lamp with a cork from a fizzy bottle of wine (...this is why elves are better)

 

3. Flemeth is the sh*t... Always has been always will be. It's why I love Mythal too.

 

It's something about how Solas walks in that armor. It really reminds me of heels. 

 

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I never took that info I datamined as meaning Flemeth is permanently gone. That would just kill me. She better have another part of her lying around! But I kind of want the veil to drop because I want to see some all out Dread Wolf f*cking up those gods. I'm more torn about it than I anticipated (no pun intended)

 

 

I still wonder if Abelas can change into a dragon. How bad *ass would that be? I think the only reason he didn't was out of fear for damaging the well. But I still suspect. Someone suggested that he may be Mythal's son. I wondered that too. But I don't know why her son would be wearing vallaslin. I just believe there is some sort of connection between Abelas and Mythal that we aren't aware of yet. 

[Vorathrad]

'Tis done!

 

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(my laptop doesn't allow me to show the full image, but it's there)

 

B*tches... no I have no idea why i just said that. You evoke these things in me Vorathrad.

 

Yeah b*tch!! Thighs!!   

 

(For those who didn't see Breaking Bad or don't remember, see vid below, it's not spoilery)

 

Spoiler

 

Edit to add: I also think there's also some sort of connection between Abelas and Mythal, but not mother and son (she wouldn't put a vallaslin on her son, that's an excellent point) And Abelas shapeshifting into a dragon mgmgmk lglglgl jejihi (there goes my structured thinking again)

Modifié par Vorathrad, 15 septembre 2015 - 10:27 .

[Babelas]

'Tis done!

 

Spoiler

 

 

(my laptop doesn't allow me to show the full image, but it's there)

 

 

Yeah b*tch!! Thighs!!   

 

(For those who didn't see Breaking Bad or don't remember, see vid below, it's not spoilery)

 

Spoiler

 

Edit to add: I also think there's also some sort of connection between Abelas and Mythal, but not mother and son (she wouldn't put a vallaslin on her son, that's an excellent point) And Abelas shapeshifting into a dragon mgmgmk lglglgl jejihi (there goes my structured thinking again)

B*tches!!!!!!!!!! Got nothin but love for you No matter what is said. Thank you!!!!!!!

 

Oh I love Gordon Freeman... I mean Breaking Bad One of my favorites! 

 

I'm going to come back tomorrow with my sense of humor. Until then... peace and thighs

 

 

Hey did you post that under the plane already smells like farts or did you just tweet it out? I don't know how f*cking twitter works b*tches

[Brass_Buckles]

Well apparently (Trespasser spoilers ahoy)

 

Spoiler

Mythal actually called Solas to take a physical form.  Solas started out as a spirit.  (Wisdom?  Pride?  We don't know.)  There's also a hint that Solas was originally marked with Mythal's vallaslin, but removed it from himself, leaving a scar in its wake.  Unclear whether that's the forehead scar, or if he's still bound to her in some way, or both.

 

From those hints, it's possible to conjecture that maybe Mythal also created Abelas.  Or, he could very well be a physical-world relative of hers.  If by giving physical form to Solas, she could be considered his mother, then Solas was another son she had bound.

 

I do not think we have seen the last of Mythal, and I'm not sure that's a good thing.  It's not that I didn't like the character of Flemeth, but I believe trusting her would be a mistake.  We have been told to disregard the developers' notes because they may not be 100% accurate.  However, the implication is that she's totally on board with Solas's plan, and likely always has been.  We probably have more to fear from her, and, if they aren't freed of her control, her followers--including Abelas--than we do from Solas.  It's my theory that we will be able to stop Solas, but Mythal, possibly through Morrigan, will carry out the Ultimate Plan anyway.  Whatever Solas did to Mythal's enemies (and it seems to be particularly horrible), she didn't think it was bad enough.  Also, she considered the world to have been betrayed.  That may also bode ill for Solas if she also wants vengeance on him.

 

Point being, don't count on Abelas to help us out, even if he actually wants to.  The vallaslin is still there, so whatever Mythal wants, Abelas is going to do.

[Babelas]

Well apparently (Trespasser spoilers ahoy)

 

Spoiler

Mythal actually called Solas to take a physical form.  Solas started out as a spirit.  (Wisdom?  Pride?  We don't know.)  There's also a hint that Solas was originally marked with Mythal's vallaslin, but removed it from himself, leaving a scar in its wake.  Unclear whether that's the forehead scar, or if he's still bound to her in some way, or both.

 

From those hints, it's possible to conjecture that maybe Mythal also created Abelas.  Or, he could very well be a physical-world relative of hers.  If by giving physical form to Solas, she could be considered his mother, then Solas was another son she had bound.

 

I do not think we have seen the last of Mythal, and I'm not sure that's a good thing.  It's not that I didn't like the character of Flemeth, but I believe trusting her would be a mistake.  We have been told to disregard the developers' notes because they may not be 100% accurate.  However, the implication is that she's totally on board with Solas's plan, and likely always has been.  We probably have more to fear from her, and, if they aren't freed of her control, her followers--including Abelas--than we do from Solas.  It's my theory that we will be able to stop Solas, but Mythal, possibly through Morrigan, will carry out the Ultimate Plan anyway.  Whatever Solas did to Mythal's enemies (and it seems to be particularly horrible), she didn't think it was bad enough.  Also, she considered the world to have been betrayed.  That may also bode ill for Solas if she also wants vengeance on him.

 

Point being, don't count on Abelas to help us out, even if he actually wants to.  The vallaslin is still there, so whatever Mythal wants, Abelas is going to do.

Here I was going to go relax and pretend I didn't spend all day admiring the thighs and fighting for them... then BB comes in with some sh*t that makes my brain hurt. (I'm teasing) But seriously... b*tches now I'm thinking.

 

Well... I guess I better spoiler this.

 

Spoiler

 

Maybe Solas's wisdom friend was his relative o.O 

 

So... Mythal marked him? I wondered about that scar but then again Solas says he has fought in wars so I assumed it was his manly man mark. B*tches love that stuff (Someone stop me)

 

What!?!? Created Abelas? Well.. she did a good job on the thighs. But if that's true... it means he could be recreated or reformed by Solas. Resurrection possibilities... that would make them brothers. Dude that's messed up. But I like it.

 

I know Mythal wants vengeance but there are a few things that give me pause... Flemeth is human as are her daughters and her grandson. Would she really be on board with them dying? I wonder if Flemeth always had a plan to actually double cross Mythal before it came to that. I wouldn't put it past her if it is possible. That aside, I really cannot see Morrigan carrying out the plan, not when it would harm Kieran. Even if it did not hurt him initially it would eventually since he is human. 

 

There is always the possibility that Morrigan would oppose all of it completely. She could free Abelas and not take on the godhood. Or... well the end of the world is coming b*tches! 

 

I will say that we are assuming that Mythal wants vengeance on the Evanuris. There may be a third party that we are unaware of that is the actual intended target. For whatever weird reason, I sometimes wonder if Andraste is not actually dead and is actually an Elvhen enemy. I don't know why I think this but it is something that has always niggled at me. Probably not. Everyone is probably insane and ready to end the world. I'm okay with it if I get more thighs.

 

[Brass_Buckles]

Completely off topic but every time someone comments on wanting some of Abelas's thighs, I'm picturing them holding up his leg like a chicken drumstick and taking a bite out of it.

 

Take that as you will.

[Babelas]

Oh wait I just had another thought. Yes.. it was painful. What if:

 

Spoiler

 

It's another one of those instances where Flemeth makes it sound like something really bad is going to happen but it actually isn't. We assume Solas knows what will happen when he drops the veil. But he's never done it before. He has lifted it but not dropped it. We don't know the actual outcome. So it reminds me of the moment we believed Flemeth was going to possess Morrigan or Kieran. We thought this is going to be awful. In the end, her words were misleading, or rather we just didn't understand. Morrigan is throwing a fit because she believed Flemeth is referencing Kieran but she is really speaking of the old god soul the whole time. When it is revealed we are all like: Ohhhhh that's what she meant. I'm starting to wonder if that is another one of these moments. I need more context. I need to hear Cole's line and play the ending again.

 

[Babelas]

Completely off topic but every time someone comments on wanting some of Abelas's thighs, I'm picturing them holding up his leg like a chicken drumstick and taking a bite out of it.

 

Take that as you will.

Finger licking good? I will show myself out now.

[Babelas]

Last spammage tonight and I am gone. Just saw this tweet:

 

Spoiler

 

If the inquisition is disbanded, does that mean skyhold is abandoned again? 

 

 

PW tweets: I can think of several interested parties who might have a use for it.

 

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Yeah... since it was the place where the sky was held back. I can think of someone who might want it in order to drop the sky

 

Outta here b*tches

[Tielis]

Well apparently (Trespasser spoilers ahoy)

 

Spoiler

Mythal actually called Solas to take a physical form.  Solas started out as a spirit.  (Wisdom?  Pride?  We don't know.)  There's also a hint that Solas was originally marked with Mythal's vallaslin, but removed it from himself, leaving a scar in its wake.  Unclear whether that's the forehead scar, or if he's still bound to her in some way, or both.

 

From those hints, it's possible to conjecture that maybe Mythal also created Abelas.  Or, he could very well be a physical-world relative of hers.  If by giving physical form to Solas, she could be considered his mother, then Solas was another son she had bound.

 

I do not think we have seen the last of Mythal, and I'm not sure that's a good thing.  It's not that I didn't like the character of Flemeth, but I believe trusting her would be a mistake.  We have been told to disregard the developers' notes because they may not be 100% accurate.  However, the implication is that she's totally on board with Solas's plan, and likely always has been.  We probably have more to fear from her, and, if they aren't freed of her control, her followers--including Abelas--than we do from Solas.  It's my theory that we will be able to stop Solas, but Mythal, possibly through Morrigan, will carry out the Ultimate Plan anyway.  Whatever Solas did to Mythal's enemies (and it seems to be particularly horrible), she didn't think it was bad enough.  Also, she considered the world to have been betrayed.  That may also bode ill for Solas if she also wants vengeance on him.

 

Point being, don't count on Abelas to help us out, even if he actually wants to.  The vallaslin is still there, so whatever Mythal wants, Abelas is going to do.

 

Spoiler

Yes, the more I think about it, the more I think Mythal is the true villain and not her pet wolf.  So this would mean, in the case of Abelas, "be careful what you wish for".

[Abelas Forever!]

As insane as me. That's what it means I just get disheartened. The character evokes strong emotions in me and from what I've seen on that thread others too, You and Tielis have been fighting hard on there. I think I'm too attached. It became personal after 8 months of writing him and then to have to try and explain to others how much the character means to you is just... painful. 

*hug* Think about his thighs! Thighs! So did you get butt back images of Abelas' armor via FlyCam? I'm really curious because I wan to see a butt contest between Solas and Abelas. Abelas is such a tease. He hides his bottom.

 

 

'Tis done!

Thanks Vorathrad!    But what does this mean "We know he ur pna qvr"?