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[maia0407]

Maia, it's very interesting what you said about racism being adaptative; in Abelas case, I'd say a degree of racism and despise for the modern world is needed for him to fulfill his mission.

 

Here's an article about innate racism:

 

http://www.medicalda...thnicity-240970

 

I just want to qualify that I'm not justifying racism or saying that it should be encouraged because it might be innate. Just because something might be 'natural' doesn't necessarily make it something we should practice. I still think it is something that we must overcome. But, being aware of it's origins can be helpful.

[Babelas]

Aw, thanks! You seem very reasonable as well. It's always nice to converse with someone that you might disagree with and not go over the ledge into ugliness. See, sometimes women can be awesome to each other as well!

I feel bad about this. I am too close to this subject to think analytically and lately the thread has picked up and it's been fun. In the past, when that happened we had people come in and basically ruin it for everyone. You are not one of those people but I am so wary. I do believe there is room for all opinions. I need to try harder not to automatically jump to the worst conclusion. So I am sorry for that. I'm really quite tame when not on the defensive. You know how it is when you get a good thing going. You just want to keep it going. I have forum baggage I need to deal with.

 

I'll catch up with this thread later, as at the moment I am entranced by Babelas' "Stolen Dance" story.  I have just read the chapter that Zevran hijacked, and I am grinning from ear to ear.  It is so easy to read the dialogue in the character's voices!

 

You're doing the Maker's work, dear.  Please keep writing it.  

Awww you are reading it? I didn't really expect anyone to read it LOL. Oooo Zev is so fun to write. But he really did hijack. I had this whole thigh chapter planned out and he just jumped in like the little b*tch he is and took over. But... I love that damn elf. He's just so much fun. 

 

Thank you so much! Means a lot coming from you! I have no idea how to get this to carry over to the next page so I'm posting it now. I've rewritten it once. o.O

[maia0407]

I feel bad about this. I am too close to this subject to think analytically and lately the thread has picked up and it's been fun. In the past, when that happened we had people come in and basically ruin it for everyone. You are not one of those people but I am so wary. I do believe there is room for all opinions. I need to try harder not to automatically jump to the worst conclusion. So I am sorry for that. I'm really quite tame when not on the defensive. You know how it is when you get a good thing going. You just want to keep it going. I have forum baggage I need to deal with.

 

Awww you are reading it? I didn't really expect anyone to read it LOL. Oooo Zev is so fun to write. But he really did hijack. I had this whole thigh chapter planned out and he just jumped in like the little b*tch he is and took over. But... I love that damn elf. He's just so much fun. 

 

Thank you so much! Means a lot coming from you! I have no idea how to get this to carry over to the next page so I'm posting it now. I've rewritten it once. o.O

I understand. I have my subjects that I'm defensive about and I've misread people's intent. It's hard when the same thing happens over and over; you just begin to expect it! I get it! You seem like a really nice person and we'll have fun in this thread!

[Babelas]

Welcome Gooseberry and maia!!

 

I will try to find the middle ground in the racist-not racist debate (because I love finding middle grounds) It really comes down to how wide or narrow one's cathegory for racist is, and how much you think Abelas situation justifies his views on the rest of the world (at least the little we learn) It's the same with people seeing Anders as terrorist or Solas as mass murderer (or even genocidal) To what degree you include each of those characters on those cathegories I think it depends largely on your personal background, your relationship with the character and your understanding of their motives. To me Abelas is not racist because I understand that his situation doesn't allow him to have better views on other races. In fact, for someone who has spent the waking hours of the last centuries fighting trespassers in the temple (he calls you exactly that word, interesting...), I was surprised that he was willing to do anything with you other than killing you on the spot. Maia, it's very interesting what you said about racism being adaptative; in Abelas case, I'd say a degree of racism and despise for the modern world is needed for him to fulfill his mission.

 

Also, today I watched again conversations with Abelas and he says that the sentinels duty is over now that the well is gone, and that by drinking from the Well you will be bound as they are bound. So it seems that the geas passes from the sentinels to whoever drank from the well. I think it's curious that Mythal chose to enslave the sentinels so long as the well remained untouched, as they would be useful for her revenge. Maybe she knew that once someone would be able to drink from the well, her plans would be well on their way? It's always so difficult to say with this elf 

 

I also tried to translate what Solas says to Abelas with the elven translations on the wiki, and I think it's something like "Your sorrows are over/finished now" So Abelas is now free to do whatever he wants, which I think possibly is finding and joining other ancient elves. I'm thinking now, what if not all remaining ancient elves agree with Solas plan? I mean, some of them might have lost all hope or reclaiming their world or may find that this world doesn't deserve to disappear and their time has passed.

 

The Masked Empire spoilers ahead

Spoiler

As far as I know from reading the Solas thread because I didn't read TME, Felassan is an ancient elf and he ends up refusing to help who seems to be Fen'Harel, because he thinks modern Thedas deserves a chance.

 

Re: dead characters coming back, I completely understand that it's not somewhere devs want to go. It invalidates the choices of some people. But I also think Abelas dead is not so important that they can dismiss it somehow. I think it was Silent who said that it's more of a game mechanics to let you drink from the well even if Abelas doesn't allow you to. Bringing him back wouldn't be so dramatic as, say,

Spoiler

a qunarified Iron Bull.

 

Btw we are not tagging Trespasser spoilers anymore, are we?

We need more middle ground people. They are the true diplomats Unlike my loony self. 

 

I am rewriting this... the quote button defeated me 

 

 I think it depends largely on your personal background,

 

This is probably the most astute observation I have read on this thread. Well besides hot, thighs and sexy.. It's very true. So I'm half American Indian or Native American depending on who is saying it. That right there could go into a huge debate. But let's not. I identify with elves I think because of the stories I was told as a child. When I see someone go with any reason justifies the end result the hair raises on the back of my head. There's a part of me that honestly would love for the veil to drop and the Elvhen be restored. Then there is the part of me who gets sick to their stomach when they think about that in realistic terms and what that means. It's complicated and it's close to my heart as I am sure it is for other people. Sometimes it's easy to forget that this is a multicultural thread and we all have our own story and our reasons for loving or hating something. I try not to think on those terms. I try very hard to see everyone as just people but racism is always there. Not the type where I want to kill someone for the color of their skin, but the type that makes me proud to be who I am and proud of my people's history and also not so proud. 

 

I think that Mythal needed the well to remain for the right person to drink from it. The sentinels were a necessary evil. I'm assuming Flemthyal could have freed them. I have no idea but I suspect she could have. Perhaps only Mythal in her original form could free them and she was murdered before she was able. But I think they were the sacrificial elves in this case.

 

I think SS is onto something when she mentions Tirashan. People are afraid of that forest just like they were afraid of the Arbor Wilds. People don't come back. My bet is on a temple at the center. I think it's quite possible Abelas is searching out other priests. It's the priest club. Damn that has to be a smokin hot elf club

If you haven't read TME don't click on this if you want to avoid spoilers.

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Felasson was killed in the end by Solas because he began to see Briala and Celene as people. That was when I lost almost complete interest in Solas. I'm praying Abelas doesn't head down the same path. But nothing is certain.

 

 

Really Abelas seems like the sort of character that could be worked into the narrative again. I know I am biased but his supposed death was less permanent feeling than some of the other deaths in the past.

 

 

Yes, I am, too! And I second Tielis' remarks. Also, I can't stand to argue with people. As my son learned in nursery school: we each have our opinions. I despise Sera, for instance, yet I manage to be friends with people who adore her (do I think they suffer from masochistic delusions? Yes, yes, I do, but I still like them, and they like me, despite my preference for cruel, sneering elven men with mighty thighs). The beauty of stories and even historical documents is that they can have multiple interpretations. Each of us here is fascinated with Abelas, yet we can see him very differently. 

 

Welcome to Maia and Gooseberry! How do you like your coffee?

Awww thank you! Double trouble comes to mind for some reason Very good points. Next time I get out of hand just smack me with a good cup of coffee. 

Here's an article about innate racism:

 

http://www.medicalda...thnicity-240970

 

I just want to qualify that I'm not justifying racism or saying that it should be encouraged because it might be innate. Just because something might be 'natural' doesn't necessarily make it something we should practice. I still think it is something that we must overcome. But, being aware of it's origins can be helpful.

I just want to say that I never thought you were justifying it. I don't get that vibe from you. I will read that as soon as I click on the post button. 

[Tielis]

Hmm....closest if I could describe those 2 elves to you would be Solas as a flame,bright and red,pure,lusty and dangerous,protective,fierce. The kind that tends to start slowly and warm you but given enough food burns everything down with 30 seconds. Abelas...feels to me like almost veilfire,slow but methodic,secure,blue/green,nurturing,warm in the core. Its like when you are 16 you are drawn to Solas and when you get older and mature more you look for the likes of Abelas.

 

Oh my gooses, this is perfect.  Yes, exactly.

 

For me, Solas is the guy you know is bad for you but is so damn gorgeous and charismatic you fall for him against your better judgement, only to get burned.  Cullen is the safe teddy bear that will always kiss your knee when you fall and scrape it, and will wrap himself around you to keep you warm.

 

Abelas is the wise mentor who becomes a friend, who becomes something more, to walk forever by your side.

[Tielis]

Okay, so now that I've finished binge-reading all 23 chapters of Babelas' lovely story, I'm thinking about starting a whole new worldstate just for the hope of Abelas.  And I mean playing it through.

 

I've never played a Tabris.  (Yes, I know, sacrilege to some of you.)  So, for the heroines and their elves, I'm thinking rogue/rogue, warrior/warrior, and mage/mage this time.

 

Dang it, lady, you've inspired me so much, but it only makes me want for an Abelas romance to be playable!  Ah well.  There is a way to break up with the Solasmonster in Trespasser, isn't there?  I would do that just to keep this playthrough as my Abelas shrine.

[Vorathrad]

Here's an article about innate racism:

 

http://www.medicalda...thnicity-240970

 

I just want to qualify that I'm not justifying racism or saying that it should be encouraged because it might be innate. Just because something might be 'natural' doesn't necessarily make it something we should practice. I still think it is something that we must overcome. But, being aware of it's origins can be helpful.

 

Sure! Don't worry, I understand  I wasn't justifying racism either, but as you say, being aware of its origins can be helpful. Most human behaviours have explanations, and I think fighting the undesirable ones begins by understanding them. I took a Coursera course on social psychology and I've forgotten a lot, but I remember racist attitudes also have to do with group dynamics and the concept of otherness. We tend to attribute more positive features to members of our group; and the other way around, for instance if a person from other country commits a crime many people think "People from country X tend to be criminals" rather than "This person who happens to be from country X committed a crime"

 

In the case of ancient elves, when confronted with attitudes like Solas and Abelas many people think "Elves are racist" and single out Felassan as the exception. And even classify them as racist because they don't react well to the otherness that our characters are to them. In fact, many people dislike Abelas because he identifies a Dalish Inquisitor as "shem". You are an "other" to him, not in his group. I have to wonder, if Abelas had identified a Dalish Inquisitor as part of his people, would as many people think of him as racist? I don't think so. 

 

 I think it depends largely on your personal background,

 

This is probably the most astute observation I have read on this thread. 

 

Thank you!  I will not bring up the debate, but let me say that I love all things Native American (as slippery as the term may be and knowing that it's kind of an umbrella term for many different peoples) And it's so damn difficult to find books and info from reliable sources, specially living in Spain. 

 

It helped me to come to this conclusion when I read very heated reactions to some topics that really didn't bother me. I didn't understand at first, but I realized that I'm Spanish and white, so I've never had any firsthand experience with racism. If I was one of the many South American people living in Spain, it would probable be a very sore spot for me, same as all things related to women are because I have suffered from prejudices related to what women are supposed to do. 

 

I also think that Silent is onto something with the Tirashan elves (btw she was spot on with the elvhen immortality being related to the Fade, congrats Silent!  ) They are also mentioned in The Last Court, that browser game that covers events prior to Inquisition; but I'm not very interested in the game and I'm not sure the additional lore is worth the effort. 

 

Babelas, where can I read your fic? I usually don't read fanfiction, but I'll make an exception for you (and Abelas) 

 

@Tielis Both your descriptions of Solas and Abelas are perfect (also of Cully Wully, the romance of my canon run because I had too much drama in my real life already   ) Yes, you can break up with Solas in Trespasser so your Lavellan's body is ready for His Thighship. And the city elf origin is a grrrreat story, 10/10 would play again if fighting wasn't so clunky in DAO.

[Tielis]

@Tielis Both your descriptions of Solas and Abelas are perfect (also of Cully Wully, the romance of my canon run because I had too much drama in my real life already   ) Yes, you can break up with Solas in Trespasser so your Lavellan's body is ready for His Thighship. And the city elf origin is a grrrreat story, 10/10 would play again if fighting wasn't so clunky in DAO.

 

It is definitely hard to resist the Cullen + Dog combination.  I am fighting it, because the elven lore in this game is what brought me to it in the first place.  I want to be able to say that I slept with the Dread Wolf and then dumped his sorry ass.    (And I do love Solas, I just know how a relationship with that type of guy usually turns out, and I want one of my Lavellans to have smelled the coffee and dodged a bullet, unlike myself.)

 

And as I've said before, I can only play archers and arcane warriors, so most likely I will just control Leliana and let what's her name -- Kallian? and Zevran slice and dice while Alistair gets hit on the head.  (EDIT:  Whoa whoa whoa, the City Elf's backstory involves a dagger by the name of "Fang of Fen'Harel".)

 

 

This is probably the most astute observation I have read on this thread. Well besides hot, thighs and sexy.. It's very true. So I'm half American Indian or Native American depending on who is saying it. That right there could go into a huge debate. But let's not. I identify with elves I think because of the stories I was told as a child. When I see someone go with any reason justifies the end result the hair raises on the back of my head. There's a part of me that honestly would love for the veil to drop and the Elvhen be restored. Then there is the part of me who gets sick to their stomach when they think about that in realistic terms and what that means. It's complicated and it's close to my heart as I am sure it is for other people. Sometimes it's easy to forget that this is a multicultural thread and we all have our own story and our reasons for loving or hating something. I try not to think on those terms. I try very hard to see everyone as just people but racism is always there. Not the type where I want to kill someone for the color of their skin, but the type that makes me proud to be who I am and proud of my people's history and also not so proud.

 

I am not Native American, but I worked at the National Museum of the American Indian for the few years before it opened and a bit afterwards.  (And then my fibromyalgia became so bad that it disabled me, yay.  Still trying to get compensated, and I could use the prayers.  And I'll shut up now about that.)  

 

Anyhow, I am always amazed by those who cannot see someone as the same level of person just because oh noes maybe their skin is a different color or their culture or religion is different.  I am fascinated by Native American beliefs, and I feel more kinship with those than the Catholicism I was raised with a lot of times.  I believe that if a belief system ensures goodness for everyone, it is right, no matter who wrote it down first.  But anyway, that's getting into a religion discussion, and I was taught not to talk about that in polite company.    The Native American people that I met and worked with were wonderful, joyful souls in spite of the injustice that is still being served up to their people today.  It was the best job I ever had.

[Alchemillia]

Abelas knows how to please women.

 

If he would be LI in the next game. This could happens after a kiss:

PC: "Is that honey?"

Abelas: "Do you like it?"

PC: "Can I try it again to be sure?"

Abelas: "Sure"

Hello! Vacuum Sealed Armor! (That is so adorable. I can't even.) aldien gave me directions to this wondrous place. Also Hi SilentShadows! So I brought a gift! A lighthearted gift. In which Alchemillia thinks she's clever. To make you smile.

 

Feel free to change female for male pronouns if you wish. I believe in an equal opportunity Abelas.

 

***

 

The fire was slowly dying down. Their traveling companions all wandering off to their own mud caked tents for the night. It had been a cold and brutal trek but it was almost over, soon they would be home. Our Hero looked up from the book resting on the furs in her lap.

Abelas was staring again, he seemed to be doing that a lot lately. He smiled and the low fire light sparkled in his eyes.  It was strange at first to see him smile, he still rarely did, but each time she saw it her world got just a little bit brighter. Abelas stood, hands braced behind his back as he made his way to her. 

 

*SKIPS AHEAD*

 

Abelas: "I have come to care for you a great deal..."

 

Pc: *blushes* *swoons*

 

*kissy faces*

 

Instead of the generic romance music..

 "Guardians Of The Past" plays for real!

 

 ..do do do dee do do. dum dum. do do do de do do...

 dum dum.....screeech...

 

Pc: *is freaked out* 

*looks around for the noise*

*a full orchestra of elven sentinel musicians materialize behind him.* 

 

Pc: "Whats going on here, Abelas?!"

 

Abelas: "They.. follow me. well... that is not exactly accurate. I pull them, most of the time. In this golden chariot."

 

 *golden chariot appears*

 

Pc: "That's..how...that's not possible! Whats going on?!"

 

Abelas: "How else do you think I acquired these glorious thighs, Vehnan? How?"

 

Pc: *looks into the camera like on The Office*

 

     

[Vorathrad]

Welcome Alchemillia!! Your text is so glorious I will have to come back tomorrow in the morning and read it again and like it The sentinels orchestra and their golden chariot

Tielis I'm so sorry for your fibromialgya, I hope you're better now ♡

I'm off to bed (in fact I am in bed), good night sweeties!

[Brass_Buckles]

Endless Journey updated.  Plottiness involving Abelas included.

 

Still haven't started on Abelas political marriage fic.

 

In any case, thought anyone who is reading EJ might appreciate knowing.  It does include a lot of Abelas, but more Lavellan/Solas with Abelas being Lavellan's sort-of reluctant friend.  Lots more Abelas in the future, and gearing toward Trespasser events which have basically wrecked my original plot but hey, I can deal with it!

 

It's so late and I'm so tired I know I'm incoherent...

[Jaron Oberyn]

I just finished the well of sorrows mission, and had Dorian along this time. Anyone else see that he suggests to Abelas that he go to the Elves of Tevinter? That couldn't have been an accident with Trespasser's hint as to the next DA's location. It'll be cool if they do in fact make him a companion.

[Abelas Forever!]

Welcome maia0407, Alchemillia and  Jaron Oberyn (I know you were here earlier but I forgot to welcome you then)!

Gooseberry english isn't my native language either.

The Masked Empire spoilers

Spoiler

I have read Masked Empire. Felessan was ancient elf and his task was to get the password to that Eluvian network from Briala. She would have given him the password but he refused even though he knew that he would die if he wouldn't get that password. He thought that modern elves needed a chance most likely because he had got to know Briala and started to value her.

The whole thing with Felessan makes me think that did he woke up before Solas? If that would have been the case then he had more time to adapt to modern life. Besides it's seen in Solas that his opinions of the world have changed at least if Inky was his lover or a friend but he is so stubborn that he can't give up on his mission.

Vorathrad I don't think it was me who said that it was a game mechanic that Morrigan needed to stab Abelas so that you could drink from the well. Tielis? Was it you who said that?

Do we need to put things which happened in Trespasser inside spoiler tags?

Thank you Vorathrad but I don't think it was me who first linked fade and the immortality together. I think me and Babelas talked about it quite while ago. I just happened to play the fade mission again and notice a letter in there and that convinced me that immortality and elves must be linked somehow.

Alchemillia that was a lovely story.

Tielis I'm sorry for your fibromyalgia.

Jaron Oberyn I noticed that! I was so excited to see that when I played.

[Babelas]

Quote central.

Sure! Don't worry, I understand  I wasn't justifying racism either, but as you say, being aware of its origins can be helpful. Most human behaviours have explanations, and I think fighting the undesirable ones begins by understanding them. I took a Coursera course on social psychology and I've forgotten a lot, but I remember racist attitudes also have to do with group dynamics and the concept of otherness. We tend to attribute more positive features to members of our group; and the other way around, for instance if a person from other country commits a crime many people think "People from country X tend to be criminals" rather than "This person who happens to be from country X committed a crime"

 

In the case of ancient elves, when confronted with attitudes like Solas and Abelas many people think "Elves are racist" and single out Felassan as the exception. And even classify them as racist because they don't react well to the otherness that our characters are to them. In fact, many people dislike Abelas because he identifies a Dalish Inquisitor as "shem". You are an "other" to him, not in his group. I have to wonder, if Abelas had identified a Dalish Inquisitor as part of his people, would as many people think of him as racist? I don't think so. 

 

 

Thank you!  I will not bring up the debate, but let me say that I love all things Native American (as slippery as the term may be and knowing that it's kind of an umbrella term for many different peoples) And it's so damn difficult to find books and info from reliable sources, specially living in Spain. 

 

It helped me to come to this conclusion when I read very heated reactions to some topics that really didn't bother me. I didn't understand at first, but I realized that I'm Spanish and white, so I've never had any firsthand experience with racism. If I was one of the many South American people living in Spain, it would probable be a very sore spot for me, same as all things related to women are because I have suffered from prejudices related to what women are supposed to do. 

 

I also think that Silent is onto something with the Tirashan elves (btw she was spot on with the elvhen immortality being related to the Fade, congrats Silent!  ) They are also mentioned in The Last Court, that browser game that covers events prior to Inquisition; but I'm not very interested in the game and I'm not sure the additional lore is worth the effort. 

 

Babelas, where can I read your fic? I usually don't read fanfiction, but I'll make an exception for you (and Abelas) 

 

@Tielis Both your descriptions of Solas and Abelas are perfect (also of Cully Wully, the romance of my canon run because I had too much drama in my real life already   ) Yes, you can break up with Solas in Trespasser so your Lavellan's body is ready for His Thighship. And the city elf origin is a grrrreat story, 10/10 would play again if fighting wasn't so clunky in DAO.

If most human behaviors have an explanation can you please explain my husband to me. I've been waiting for someone to do that since forever.

 

I have honestly tried to pick out the racism in Abelas's remarks. This is honest. But for the life of me all I get is big grumpy guy who doesn't like you because you are trying to be his bestie. I'll also say I find it kind of amusing. There were times that I hated the Dalish attitude. I know they have reasons to dislike humans. But there were just times, especially when they were just as suspicious with other Dalish that I wanted to bop them on the head. On the other side of this, I think it's about time we run into an elf that isn't falling over himself to apologize for being an elf. He isn't sweeping floors or taking orders from humans etc. He is standing there all proud like: look at me and my golden crotch b*tches. Respect. I kind of admire that or find it strangely arousing. I'm not sure which... Maker... help me.

 

I have grown up with hateful eyes on me all of my life. So I guess I have thicker skin when it comes to what I consider racist and not racist. It doesn't make any form of it acceptable especially if it is hurting people. But... I do believe it is part of the human condition. On top of that I'm a woman who grew up in a very traditional family, one that wanted me to marry within my own culture. Yeah... that didn't work.  Not going there. This isn't the place. I think everyone has been subjected to racism and half the time we don't even know it is happening. I say that because I think it is truly built in. You have to avidly try to stop it.

 

Anyway, so I guess in relation to the elves I feel that those that live in the city are the most vulnerable in the game. How many are dreaming of a better life? I worry that Solas will prey on them. And I'm sad because I'm having a hard time finding love for Solas any more. I hate that because I didn't want him to turn into what he is turning into. Bugs me.

Okay, so now that I've finished binge-reading all 23 chapters of Babelas' lovely story, I'm thinking about starting a whole new worldstate just for the hope of Abelas.  And I mean playing it through.

 

I've never played a Tabris.  (Yes, I know, sacrilege to some of you.)  So, for the heroines and their elves, I'm thinking rogue/rogue, warrior/warrior, and mage/mage this time.

 

Dang it, lady, you've inspired me so much, but it only makes me want for an Abelas romance to be playable!  Ah well.  There is a way to break up with the Solasmonster in Trespasser, isn't there?  I would do that just to keep this playthrough as my Abelas shrine.

Thank you for reading my trash  I wrote the story in the hope it would bring attention to the character. You can't have an Abelas romance without Zev around though. Someone has to be there to point out the ridiculousness of the golden crotch. If you do run through with Abelas in mind, I think I'll do one too. Just try to ignore the maniacal laughter from the arl's son and his men. You'll get the fang of Fen'Harel if you play as Tabris so that's cool.

 

 

It is definitely hard to resist the Cullen + Dog combination.  I am fighting it, because the elven lore in this game is what brought me to it in the first place.  I want to be able to say that I slept with the Dread Wolf and then dumped his sorry ass.   (And I do love Solas, I just know how a relationship with that type of guy usually turns out, and I want one of my Lavellans to have smelled the coffee and dodged a bullet, unlike myself.)

 

And as I've said before, I can only play archers and arcane warriors, so most likely I will just control Leliana and let what's her name -- Kallian? and Zevran slice and dice while Alistair gets hit on the head.  (EDIT:  Whoa whoa whoa, the City Elf's backstory involves a dagger by the name of "Fang of Fen'Harel".)

 

 

I just said that up there. hehehe You found it Honestly, there is not a thing wrong with the Cullen romance. When you need something straight forward and sweet it's a good place to go. 

 

 

 

 

I am not Native American, but I worked at the National Museum of the American Indian for the few years before it opened and a bit afterwards.  (And then my fibromyalgia became so bad that it disabled me, yay.  Still trying to get compensated, and I could use the prayers.  And I'll shut up now about that.)  

 

Anyhow, I am always amazed by those who cannot see someone as the same level of person just because oh noes maybe their skin is a different color or their culture or religion is different.  I am fascinated by Native American beliefs, and I feel more kinship with those than the Catholicism I was raised with a lot of times.  I believe that if a belief system ensures goodness for everyone, it is right, no matter who wrote it down first.  But anyway, that's getting into a religion discussion, and I was taught not to talk about that in polite company.    The Native American people that I met and worked with were wonderful, joyful souls in spite of the injustice that is still being served up to their people today.  It was the best job I ever had.

 

That's awesome! It's not often I run into people who have an active interest in American Indian culture. Well.. unless we count those people who feel the need to tell me how much Native American they have in their blood. I'm like: is it in your little pinky? I mean.. why are you telling me this? 

 

I'm so sorry to hear that! You are in my prayers. (yes I pray... get over it people) Other than what I believe, I quite like Taoism. I think it's important to do a spiritual travel to find what fits the soul not necessarily the ideals of those around a person. You should know by now that I am not polite company. (I'm teasing)

 

I'm glad you had such a positive experience. There are those who live by a sort of credo of being not just a good person but a representative of their people.I mean... I'm not one of them but... I do appreciate those people especially my elders. Thank goodness you didn't meet my brother

 

Hello! Vacuum Sealed Armor! (That is so adorable. I can't even.) aldien gave me directions to this wondrous place. Also Hi SilentShadows! So I brought a gift! A lighthearted gift. In which Alchemillia thinks she's clever. To make you smile.

 

Feel free to change female for male pronouns if you wish. I believe in an equal opportunity Abelas.

 

***

 

The fire was slowly dying down. Their traveling companions all wandering off to their own mud caked tents for the night. It had been a cold and brutal trek but it was almost over, soon they would be home. Our Hero looked up from the book resting on the furs in her lap.

Abelas was staring again, he seemed to be doing that a lot lately. He smiled and the low fire light sparkled in his eyes.  It was strange at first to see him smile, he still rarely did, but each time she saw it her world got just a little bit brighter. Abelas stood, hands braced behind his back as he made his way to her. 

 

*SKIPS AHEAD*

 

Abelas: "I have come to care for you a great deal..."

 

Pc: *blushes* *swoons*

 

*kissy faces*

 

Instead of the generic romance music..

 "Guardians Of The Past" plays for real!

 

 ..do do do dee do do. dum dum. do do do de do do...

 dum dum.....screeech...

 

Pc: *is freaked out* 

*looks around for the noise*

*a full orchestra of elven sentinel musicians materialize behind him.* 

 

Pc: "Whats going on here, Abelas?!"

 

Abelas: "They.. follow me. well... that is not exactly accurate. I pull them, most of the time. In this golden chariot."

 

 *golden chariot appears*

 

Pc: "That's..how...that's not possible! Whats going on?!"

 

Abelas: "How else do you think I acquired these glorious thighs, Vehnan? How?"

 

Pc: *looks into the camera like on The Office*

 

 

 

Hey you! Glad you found us. Babelas = Aldien (my troll ego)... just don't ask. Long story. I am definitely equal opportunity Abelas too. Sorry... I just see the thighs and my femaleness takes over. But I think if he made it in as an LI he should be open to all races and genders.  ROFL! Next time I'm drunk, I am coming back here to read your story again. I expect many more giggles.

 

Endless Journey updated.  Plottiness involving Abelas included.

 

Still haven't started on Abelas political marriage fic.

 

In any case, thought anyone who is reading EJ might appreciate knowing.  It does include a lot of Abelas, but more Lavellan/Solas with Abelas being Lavellan's sort-of reluctant friend.  Lots more Abelas in the future, and gearing toward Trespasser events which have basically wrecked my original plot but hey, I can deal with it!

 

It's so late and I'm so tired I know I'm incoherent...

BB where is that fic??? *hands you a hug pillow* I understand that pain all too well. You can do it. Most people understand that you are now dealing with tons of new information. You can always put AU on it if you can't work it in. I intend on reading Endless Journey as soon as I finish writing. I have this list of stories I've had to put on hold. Got half way through Actually_FenHarel's story and had to stop because of plot bunny invasion. 

I just finished the well of sorrows mission, and had Dorian along this time. Anyone else see that he suggests to Abelas that he go to the Elves of Tevinter? That couldn't have been an accident with Trespasser's hint as to the next DA's location. It'll be cool if they do in fact make him a companion.

Abelas in Tevinter would be quite interesting. Could you imagine what he would do the first time he sees an elven slave? That would get ugly b*tches.

 

 

WHERE IS SS????

[Abelas Forever!]

I'm right here.

[Babelas]

Welcome maia0407, Alchemillia and  Jaron Oberyn (I know you were here earlier but I forgot to welcome you then)!

Gooseberry english isn't my native language either.

The Masked Empire spoilers

Spoiler

I have read Masked Empire. Felessan was ancient elf and his task was to get the password to that Eluvian network from Briala. She would have given him the password but he refused even though he knew that he would die if he wouldn't get that password. He thought that modern elves needed a chance most likely because he had got to know Briala and started to value her.

The whole thing with Felessan makes me think that did he woke up before Solas? If that would have been the case then he had more time to adapt to modern life. Besides it's seen in Solas that his opinions of the world have changed at least if Inky was his lover or a friend but he is so stubborn that he can't give up on his mission.

Vorathrad I don't think it was me who said that it was a game mechanic that Morrigan needed to stab Abelas so that you could drink from the well. Tielis? Was it you who said that?

Do we need to put things which happened in Trespasser inside spoiler tags?

Thank you Vorathrad but I don't think it was me who first linked fade and the immortality together. I think me and Babelas talked about it quite while ago. I just happened to play the fade mission again and notice a letter in there and that convinced me that immortality and elves must be linked somehow.

Alchemillia that was a lovely story.

Tielis I'm sorry for your fibromyalgia.

Jaron Oberyn I noticed that! I was so excited to see that when I played.

Why you no publish a wall o' text like me then? *pokes you* How you doing? We've been invaded by new people. I like it.

[Abelas Forever!]

Why you no publish a wall o' text like me then? *pokes you* How you doing? We've been invaded by new people. I like it.

I write very slowly because I have trouble expressing myself. Besides I'll have to process information.That's why walls of text takes me forever to write. By the way I'm fine and you? I like it that here are a lot of new people.

 

Well. Since you asked. I have been thinking should I wrote about Abelas and a random elf. I mentioned this earlier. But I'm not sure should I. Maybe there are a lot of stories of Abelas and A dalish elf where Abelas goes to a Dalish clan to teach them some elven glory but not to that elf. I mean that's probably not a unique idea. Should I write it nevertheless. I think I have some kind of crisis what comes to that idea. I don't know.

[Tielis]

I'm glad you had such a positive experience. There are those who live by a sort of credo of being not just a good person but a representative of their people.I mean... I'm not one of them but... I do appreciate those people especially my elders. Thank goodness you didn't meet my brother

 

Well, I did meet some people like that, and I respect those who try to protect their culture, as long as that does not mean hurting others in the process.  I believe in inclusion, not exclusion.  There are so many wonders and interpretations of this world that, well, MOAR knowledge and experiences please!  This is why I love the DA lore, it's just a stuck envelope of ancient secrets being unglued bit by bit.

 

The first time I saw a jingle dance I was so moved.  I was like, dang, that is awesome, I want to do that!  But then decided not to because a fishbelly white, blonde, blue-eyed, Dutch/German/Irish person with an Italian name would probably not be welcome by some.

[Tielis]

I write very slowly because I have trouble expressing myself. Besides I'll have to process information.That's why walls of text takes me forever to write. By the way I'm fine and you? I like it that here are a lot of new people.

 

Well. Since you asked. I have been thinking should I wrote about Abelas and a random elf. I mentioned this earlier. But I'm not sure should I. Maybe there are a lot of stories of Abelas and A dalish elf where Abelas goes to a Dalish clan to teach them some elven glory but not to that elf. I mean that's probably not a unique idea. Should I write it nevertheless. I think I have some kind of crisis what comes to that idea. I don't know.

 

I think you need to write this.  I often think about an elf who was brought to Skyhold to work there being overcome by all the elven stuff being uncovered.  I see her being best friends with Cillian because he was also all about that.  Perhaps she befriended Solas in the process and at some point he introduces her to Abelas?

[Babelas]

I write very slowly because I have trouble expressing myself. Besides I'll have to process information.That's why walls of text takes me forever to write. By the way I'm fine and you? I like it that here are a lot of new people.

 

Well. Since you asked. I have been thinking should I wrote about Abelas and a random elf. I mentioned this earlier. But I'm not sure should I. Maybe there are a lot of stories of Abelas and A dalish elf where Abelas goes to a Dalish clan to teach them some elven glory but not to that elf. I mean that's probably not a unique idea. Should I write it nevertheless. I think I have some kind of crisis what comes to that idea. I don't know.

You know I'm not being serious right? I feel like we have been at this thing for so long together, I can now officially aggravate you. Like... I usually do I'm good. Enjoying the autumn weather. The trees are starting to think about turning colors. My favorite season. Plus, I will be going deer hunting soon. Yeah... I'm weird.

 

What is wrong with you? YES YOU SHOULD! As far as I know, there aren't any stories where Abelas goes to a Dalish clan and teaches the Dalish. I'm racking my brain. Most people write Abelas joining the Inquisition or at some point in the future when Solas is gone. The one story I can think of that breaks from that is where Abelas runs into a Dalish woman on the run and she joins up with the sentinels. But he never goes back to the camp and teaches the Dalish. 

 

I think you should write it for you. Always write for yourself. You don't have to write it with the intent to publish it. Do it because you want to and do it for yourself. If you have a crisis of confidence talk about it, don't publish until you are finished or not at all. But mostly do it for the love of it. From experience, writing helps work out how you think and feel about your subject. I would be more than happy to read it. You can pass it along privately if you want. But I encourage you to write. It's therapeutic.

[Abelas Forever!]

Tielis have you ever wrote fanfiction? Or do you want to? I was just wondering because that idea that you just told is very interesting.

 

Babelas Thank you! This time I noticed that you weren't serious But I wanted say that it takes me forever to write Yes. We have been in this Abelas train for a long time. I'm just thinking is there any harm writing about that subject even if other people have already written about it? Because I would write it in my own way.

[Babelas]

Well, I did meet some people like that, and I respect those who try to protect their culture, as long as that does not mean hurting others in the process.  I believe in inclusion, not exclusion.  There are so many wonders and interpretations of this world that, well, MOAR knowledge and experiences please!  This is why I love the DA lore, it's just a stuck envelope of ancient secrets being unglued bit by bit.

 

The first time I saw a jingle dance I was so moved.  I was like, dang, that is awesome, I want to do that!  But then decided not to because a fishbelly white, blonde, blue-eyed, Dutch/German/Irish person with an Italian name would probably not be welcome by some.

It always depends on the person... my grandmother would have loved you. She would have driven you insane and fed you but she was one of those people who wanted to share with anyone who would listen. I still miss her. I still have a dress from when I was little that she beaded. The handiwork is just stunning. I regret my thoughts were always elsewhere when she was trying to teach me. But you know... youth. 

 

I care about the history of my people and preserving it as best I can. But I can't wear it and some people do. And that's okay. I just feel it can get too heavy carrying the past around all the time

[Tielis]

Tielis have you ever wrote fanfiction? Or do you want to? I was just wondering because that idea that you just told is very interesting.

 

Babelas Thank you! This time I noticed that you weren't serious But I wanted say that it takes me forever to write Yes. We have been in this Abelas train for a long time. I'm just thinking is there any harm writing about that subject even if other people have already written about it? Because I would write it in my own way.

 

I have written tons and tons of fanfiction, starting with Baldur's Gate, and had a few disagreements back then with Mr. Gaider on a fansite.    I then moved on to World of Darkness, and then pretty much every MMO I ever played, starting with The Realm.

 

But I have never written any DA stories, and I lost the drive to write a few years back.  I don't know if it's the fibrofog or the pain or the fatigue or what, but I just don't have the drive to write anymore.  So if anyone likes my ideas, feel free to use them!  

[Babelas]

Tielis have you ever wrote fanfiction? Or do you want to? I was just wondering because that idea that you just told is very interesting.

 

Babelas Thank you! This time I noticed that you weren't serious But I wanted say that it takes me forever to write Yes. We have been in this Abelas train for a long time. I'm just thinking is there any harm writing about that subject even if other people have already written about it? Because I would write it in my own way.

Nope there is absolutely nothing wrong with writing a subject someone else has covered. What I was trying to say, and yeah I'm crap at communicating, is that your story idea is unique. The interpretation I received from what you said was that you were worried it had been done to death. It hasn't been. At All. You always bring fresh perspective to the table. That is also another reason you should definitely consider writing it; it hasn't been written before. 

[Alchemillia]

 

Hey you! Glad you found us. Babelas = Aldien (my troll ego)... just don't ask. Long story. I am definitely equal opportunity Abelas too. Sorry... I just see the thighs and my femaleness takes over. But I think if he made it in as an LI he should be open to all races and genders.  ROFL! Next time I'm drunk, I am coming back here to read your story again. I expect many more giggles.

 

YOU! OMG YOU! Babelas the Babelas! You wrote the thing you actually did..must remember to breath.  I LOVE YOU, YOUR STORY, ABELAS, YOU AGAIN! AHHH! 

ok fangirling done. Hi friend! 

 

EDIT: I am totally going to log in to my AO3 to officially give you more kudos, instead of just the lurking ones if that's even possible.