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[Alchemillia]

I don't think Abelas would have followed Solas volutarily or at least not happily. Maybe if he wouldn't have any other place to go he might have gone to some place where Solas' agents are.

 

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I used to think or more likely wanted to think that those who were bound to Mythal are now bound to Solas because I think it would have been very interesting  for romanced Lavellan to be bound to Solas because that way he couldn't have get away from her and it would have been his fault . But now. I'm more worried about Abelas if he is bound to Solas because it seems it's not safe for him to be around Solas because of his plan.

 

And that's what i'm trying to figure out. I believe Abelas wants to find his people. I believe Solas wants help, but i do not think Solas would be too fond of forcing anyone to do what he wanted. He gave everyone who followed him a choice to either join him or not. [Codex Nerd!!!!] So by that logic if Solas meets Abelas at the Temple tells him his duty is over, then after the events of the epilogue Mythal scene Solas somehow finds him again and gives him a choice to join? MAYBE? IDK. Would he join or not. I don't know. /shrugs  

[Abelas Forever!]

I think Solas also meantions to Abelas that there are other places where he could go. Whether that means that he is recruiting Abelas I have no idea. But the possibility is there or

 

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Solas told told Abelas that he is going to meet him in his dreams this night so Abelas can prepare for it and not think anything dirty

[Babelas]

SS what the... just no. I'm trying not to spit out my tea. 

 

I still don't think Abelas would join him. I'm biased because I don't like Solas that much so ya know... Seriously, I don't know. Does Abelas want Elvhenan back? Why would he want a world where Mythal does not exist? Y'all think I'm crazy but Mythal is everything to him so if she is gone or Morrigan or inside of Cullen's dog... why would he want to help Solas?

[Alchemillia]

I think Solas also meantions to Abelas that there are other places where he could go. Whether that means that he is recruiting Abelas I have no idea. But the possibility is there or

 

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Solas told told Abelas that he is going to meet him in his dreams this night so Abelas can prepare for it and not think anything dirty

 

Perhaps he was just letting him know he had a place somewhere with him or otherwise? 

 

Oh my goddess you! Abelas thinking dirty things....please tell me you will somehow make that work in your fanfic? /blushes

 

pfft edit: with your leading character not solas oh noes!

[Babelas]

Oh you mean this SS:

 

 

I have nothing against the pairing. It just seems unlikely. But who knows. Now envisioning a whole new relationship between Mythal, Solas and Abelas.

[Abelas Forever!]

And that's what i'm trying to figure out. I believe Abelas wants to find his people. I believe Solas wants help, but i do not think Solas would be too fond of forcing anyone to do what he wanted. He gave everyone who followed him a choice to either join him or not. [Codex Nerd!!!!] So by that logic if Solas meets Abelas at the Temple tells him his duty is over, then after the events of the epilogue Mythal scene Solas somehow finds him again and gives him a choice to join? MAYBE? IDK. Would he join or not. I don't know. /shrugs  

 

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I think Solas isn't happy about forcing people to do something. However he is cabable of doing that and he will do it he sees that he needs to do that.

 

I remember that joining thing vaguely. Was it in the last scene of Tresparres or something that happened before? In ancient Elven empire?

 

 

Perhaps he was just letting him know he had a place somewhere with him or otherwise? 

 

Oh my goddess you! Abelas thinking dirty things....please tell me you will somehow make that work in your fanfic? /blushes

It could be that he says that like you just said that he just informs Abelas that there is some place for him.

 

I might make it work that Abelas thinks dirty things Let's see.

[Abelas Forever!]

Babelas that's nice picture I like it!

[Abelas Forever!]

By the way I have already written fanfiction about Abelas. It's here http://forum.bioware.../545605-abelas/in case anybody is interested.

Maybe I would just concentrate on writing stuff about him

[Alchemillia]

I was just clarifying for madam ss. It is very warm in here. to quote Sera...Woof! 

[Abelas Forever!]

Too late!!! Just kidding.

[Alchemillia]

By the way I have already written fanfiction about Abelas. It's here http://forum.bioware.../545605-abelas/in case anybody is interested.

Maybe I would just concentrate on writing stuff about him

I promise to read this as soon as I am able! *pinky promise*

[Abelas Forever!]

I promise to read this as soon as I am able! *pinky promise*

Thank you But no pressure I just wanted to share if anyone is interested

[Abelas Forever!]

I'm out of likes. Babelas I'm going to read your story as well but I have a couple of other fanfictions not finished and I'm going to read those first.

[Babelas]

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Weirdo thought for the day... so we know Solas is a Dreamer. What if drinking from the well ends up protecting whomever drank from it from Solas's influence? I have this weird feeling about it. 

 

Some weirdness. Flemeth's grimoire... Make sure you have a look at the cover when playing DAO

 

More Mythal love... Sundermount was a shrine to Mythal in DA2. It also may have been where Solas was sleeping. 

[Alchemillia]

Oh dear oh dear oh dear. Don't get me started on Sleepy Solas.  I have yet to see/find anyone who has put these puzzle pieces together. *clutches a theory to chest*  This isn't the thread for this theory that i have. AH. but I need to get it out! But first I need to write it all down and give links to things and i am just too lazy for that currently and I am kind of scared to venture into and search the Solas threads...

[Babelas]

Oh dear oh dear oh dear. Don't get me started on Sleepy Solas.  I have yet to see/find anyone who has put these puzzle pieces together. *clutches a theory to chest*  This isn't the thread for this theory that i have. AH. but I need to get it out! But first I need to write it all down and give links to things and i am just too lazy for that currently and I am kind of scared to venture into and search the Solas threads...

You can mention it here. Just put the occasional Abelas remark in to keep the moderators happy. Though... I don't think they venture here unless there is a problem. Sundermount is my guess for now. But it's hard to say. He could have been anywhere even in something like the crossroads. Though... I keep wondering if Mythal woke him up when Flemeth was summoned at Sundermount. I'd be interested in hearing your theories.

[Abelas Forever!]

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Babelas what is on Mythal's grimoire? Abelas thighs? butt?

[Vorathrad]

I forgot to say I am flattered and thank you! Okay I'm bad with compliments. Where is Vorathrad? She always knows what to say.

 

I'm right here  Showering likes on everyone but Bioware always gives me far less fewer than I need grrrrr 

 

Lovely to see the thread so busy today, I'm glad everyone is doing fine  Stay strong, Tielis!! I came home a while ago from a very boring job, but now I'm free to enjoy my daily dose of Thighness (4 out of 5 doctors recommend this Thigh Treatment)

 

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I think I just melt...

 

Ahem

 

Okey, now I'm back to my senses. I think.

 

I don't think Solas recruited Abelas directly, that's not his way; but he did in his own smooth, indirect way, like "Well now you are free from your duties and there are people like you in some places, maybe if you want you could maybe go join those people because who knows you may be even able to get back that world you are so sad to see gone. Just as a suggestion. Maybe. Perhaps." I'm not entirely convinced that Abelas would join Solas; after centuries of fighting trespassers in the temple, I'm not so sure that Abelas has the drive or the need to keep fighting. I think it would depend on whether he considers that bringing back the world he lived and was happy in is probable or worth the sacrifice.

 

Regarding who holds the leash on the sentinels now, I'd say no one. It seems pretty clear to me that they were bound only as far as protecting the well was concerned. Now it's gone, they're free to go where they want. Though they are probable not able to act directly against Mythal or her interests. I think with Flemythal mostly gone, the geas of the well is pretty much inactive. And I think so mostly because it's a very convenient choice for devs: it's too tricky that if Morrigan drank from the well she is bound to herself, i.e. free, and that if the Inquisitor drank she is bound to Morrigan. A potential or at least former PC bound to the will to a NPC would be the type of thing that would set the fandom on fire, even those who like Morrigan.  

 

Dorian's words do seem like an offer for Abelas to go to Tevinter and help the elves there. And what surprises me is that Abelas doesn't dislike the idea on principle. I thought he'd say a simple "NO". Instead, he says it would hurt more than Dorian can imagine. Probably because the situation of modern city elves would greatly pain Abelas, and the revelation that ancient elves had slaves and in fact Abelas is/was one of them would be very painful for them too. 

 

In fact, I wonder how much of what we learned in DAI and Trespasser will be common knowledge by DA4. Dalish culture could be effectively destroyed by it. Or finally thrive, free of the burden from reclaiming the past.

 

PS: Go everybody with writing!! And most of all as Babelas said, do it for yourselves first and foremost.

[Vorathrad]

Flemeth's grimoire cover reads: The Butt and The Crotch, or why Mythal was the smartest of them all

[Alchemillia]

You can mention it here. Just put the occasional Abelas remark in to keep the moderators happy. Though... I don't think they venture here unless there is a problem. Sundermount is my guess for now. But it's hard to say. He could have been anywhere even in something like the crossroads. Though... I keep wondering if Mythal woke him up when Flemeth was summoned at Sundermount. I'd be interested in hearing your theories.

I'll do my best to find the motivation to flesh it out. For now though I think I'll repost my frolicking Abelas theory post from SS's thread to here. To maybe inspire hope, or art or giggles?  If that is allowed?

[Vorathrad]

Frolicking Abelas theory? That sounds beyond glorious, I vote YES!

[Alchemillia]

Originally posted on SilentShadows post [post='http://forum.bioware...or-da4/']Abelasas companion and LI for DA4[/post]

 

 

"Team Abelas checking in!  I would love to have him back! Maybe he found a new name?! Maybe we can help him find a new one!? I'm up for it! Also I would like to point out a little bit of Cole speak from the Trespasser DLC I believe it concerns Abelas. Not sure if this would be considered spoilers because its just something he says to you when you are hanging about the Winter Palace. Does this bit of dialogue happen in play throughs with Abelas "DEAD"? 

 

 

"Bare-faced but free, frolicking fighting, fierce. He wants to give wisdom, not orders."

 

Below is the brief version of my opinion/translation of this line:

 

1. I think Solas removed his tattoo's. Because as far as we know only Solas can. (so maybe he's working along side the Dread Wolf?)(maybe he would leave if he knew said Dread Wolf hurt/killed Mythal?) 

2. I think he's(Abelas) is off having a good ol'time, Elven revolution training and teaching the old ways? (MAYBE? still not sure...) -He taught people in the Temple way back when. 

3. Perhaps he's taken the name Wisdom now? Anyone know the Elven word for wisdom?

4. Can someone p-please draw Abelas doing all this stuff. "Bare-faced but free, frolicking fighting, fierce." "FROLICKING!"( I would love you FOREVER!)

 

Also a BIG Thank you to Cole for being the greatest ghost child ever. Love him. 

 

Agree? Disagree? Opinions?"

 

Babelas pointed out that this may just be about solas or other elves or idk a unicorn but I just still really want this to be a thing!!! Abelas. <3 Frolicking Abelas.

[Vorathrad]

Oohhhh I think that lines refer to Solas in his revolution days after removing his own vallaslin. But I'm all for your interpretation, frolicking Abelas would make this world so much brighter   (and Thedas, of course) 

 

Btw I can't post on that thread, but thank you for showing your support! I'm glad to see it's three pages long but I'm a bit afraid to look; are there many haters or did other people step forward to support the Thighlove?

[Alchemillia]

Oohhhh I think that lines refer to Solas in his revolution days after removing his own vallaslin. But I'm all for your interpretation, frolicking Abelas would make this world so much brighter   (and Thedas, of course) 

 

Btw I can't post on that thread, but thank you for showing your support! I'm glad to see it's three pages long but I'm a bit afraid to look; are there many haters or did other people step forward to support the Thighlove?

There were several very opinionated individuals against it. They were all caught up on the "but he's dead in my..." "retcon!" "you are just thirsty." And several folks I see over here defending Abelas to the DEATH!!! I hope more people find it and shower it with love! 

[Babelas]

I'm outta likes :/ Damn it BW! So I give everyone a

I'm right here  Showering likes on everyone but Bioware always gives me far less fewer than I need grrrrr 

 

Lovely to see the thread so busy today, I'm glad everyone is doing fine  Stay strong, Tielis!! I came home a while ago from a very boring job, but now I'm free to enjoy my daily dose of Thighness (4 out of 5 doctors recommend this Thigh Treatment)

 

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I think I just melt...

 

Ahem

 

Okey, now I'm back to my senses. I think.

 

I don't think Solas recruited Abelas directly, that's not his way; but he did in his own smooth, indirect way, like "Well now you are free from your duties and there are people like you in some places, maybe if you want you could maybe go join those people because who knows you may be even able to get back that world you are so sad to see gone. Just as a suggestion. Maybe. Perhaps." I'm not entirely convinced that Abelas would join Solas; after centuries of fighting trespassers in the temple, I'm not so sure that Abelas has the drive or the need to keep fighting. I think it would depend on whether he considers that bringing back the world he lived and was happy in is probable or worth the sacrifice.

 

Regarding who holds the leash on the sentinels now, I'd say no one. It seems pretty clear to me that they were bound only as far as protecting the well was concerned. Now it's gone, they're free to go where they want. Though they are probable not able to act directly against Mythal or her interests. I think with Flemythal mostly gone, the geas of the well is pretty much inactive. And I think so mostly because it's a very convenient choice for devs: it's too tricky that if Morrigan drank from the well she is bound to herself, i.e. free, and that if the Inquisitor drank she is bound to Morrigan. A potential or at least former PC bound to the will to a NPC would be the type of thing that would set the fandom on fire, even those who like Morrigan.  

 

Dorian's words do seem like an offer for Abelas to go to Tevinter and help the elves there. And what surprises me is that Abelas doesn't dislike the idea on principle. I thought he'd say a simple "NO". Instead, he says it would hurt more than Dorian can imagine. Probably because the situation of modern city elves would greatly pain Abelas, and the revelation that ancient elves had slaves and in fact Abelas is/was one of them would be very painful for them too. 

 

In fact, I wonder how much of what we learned in DAI and Trespasser will be common knowledge by DA4. Dalish culture could be effectively destroyed by it. Or finally thrive, free of the burden from reclaiming the past.

 

PS: Go everybody with writing!! And most of all as Babelas said, do it for yourselves first and foremost.

Abelas is a big softy. Anyone who is that defensive is trying to hide the fact they like to sit down to a good chick flick occasionally and ball their eyes out. 

 

I think it's like you said, it would be very painful for Abelas and for the elves he is trying to educate. But I always appreciated that Dorian asked. He didn't just assume and if you will notice at that point you can see the softer side to Abelas. I'm telling you... big softy. I keep forgetting Abelas is a slave. I don't get it. Mythal and Solas best buddies and she has slaves. I stay confused.

 

I'll do my best to find the motivation to flesh it out. For now though I think I'll repost my frolicking Abelas theory post from SS's thread to here. To maybe inspire hope, or art or giggles?  If that is allowed?

 

No allowed. It's desired. Kick back, relax, just be yourself here. 

 

Originally posted on SilentShadows post [post='http://forum.bioware...or-da4/']Abelasas companion and LI for DA4[/post]

 

 

"Team Abelas checking in!  I would love to have him back! Maybe he found a new name?! Maybe we can help him find a new one!? I'm up for it! Also I would like to point out a little bit of Cole speak from the Trespasser DLC I believe it concerns Abelas. Not sure if this would be considered spoilers because its just something he says to you when you are hanging about the Winter Palace. Does this bit of dialogue happen in play throughs with Abelas "DEAD"? 

 

 

"Bare-faced but free, frolicking fighting, fierce. He wants to give wisdom, not orders."

 

Below is the brief version of my opinion/translation of this line:

 

1. I think Solas removed his tattoo's. Because as far as we know only Solas can. (so maybe he's working along side the Dread Wolf?)(maybe he would leave if he knew said Dread Wolf hurt/killed Mythal?) 

2. I think he's(Abelas) is off having a good ol'time, Elven revolution training and teaching the old ways? (MAYBE? still not sure...) -He taught people in the Temple way back when. 

3. Perhaps he's taken the name Wisdom now? Anyone know the Elven word for wisdom?

4. Can someone p-please draw Abelas doing all this stuff. "Bare-faced but free, frolicking fighting, fierce." "FROLICKING!"( I would love you FOREVER!)

 

Also a BIG Thank you to Cole for being the greatest ghost child ever. Love him. 

 

Agree? Disagree? Opinions?"

 

Babelas pointed out that this may just be about solas or other elves or idk a unicorn but I just still really want this to be a thing!!! Abelas. <3 Frolicking Abelas.

 

 

 

Oohhhh I think that lines refer to Solas in his revolution days after removing his own vallaslin. But I'm all for your interpretation, frolicking Abelas would make this world so much brighter   (and Thedas, of course) 

 

Btw I can't post on that thread, but thank you for showing your support! I'm glad to see it's three pages long but I'm a bit afraid to look; are there many haters or did other people step forward to support the Thighlove?

That's what I said. I love the idea of frolicking Abelas. That b*tch be frolicking those thighs all over Thedas. I know BB is thinking of chicken right now o.O