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*Slides into the thread with a golden platter* For you my dears. http://archiveofouro...apters/11178265

I am bad with naming things. So you get a cheesy Sorrows Approval. I hope you enjoy the...show. :wub:


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Yay! Already favorited and retweeted  B)

 

Don't feel silly, if people can ask them 1000 times why they didn't make everyone bi, sure we can pester them a bit with our Golden Thigh Glory  :D

I don't have a twitter, but I can make one to further our cause! Linkies? :D


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I just worry. I don't want to seem disrespectful or be a pest. But honestly, it's the first time since playing this series that I've really felt strongly enough about something to actually ask for it. People still asking that question? That would get old. 

 

It's the same for me, I never got so involved with a character and specially here on the boards; my bf was amazed to see me preparing my 100 pages celebration thing. In a way, I think they like it when people ask for more as long as it's respectful: that way they know some people liked a character a lot. 

 

 

Yeah, people are still demanding that. 

 

*Slides into the thread with a golden platter* For you my dears. http://archiveofouro...apters/11178265

I am bad with naming things. So you get a cheesy Sorrows Approval. I hope you enjoy the...show. :wub:

 

Thank you so much, my dear!! I think the name is perfect, we want to see "Abelas Greatly Approves" in the next game!!  :D

 

Off to read!  <3


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I don't have a twitter, but I can make one to further our cause! Linkies? :D

 

Here is Babelas twitter with her latest tweet to Patric Weekes https://twitter.com/Insane_brain1 But you don't have to make a twitter if you don't want to! I'm there anyways so I'm happy to be the Harbinger of Our Ascension in twitter  :D

 

I forgot to answer before, but re: headcanon vs. game, I don't think what's in game can ever measure up to a personal headcanon but it's not the game's fault. Personal headcanon is, well, personal, so you can focus and develop aspects of the game that are very compelling to you but may be uninteresting to other players. The game has to make significant content for a lot of different people, and there time and resources constraints that headcanon will never have. 

 

Edit so I don't post three times in a row: Alchemillia I love love love it!!  <3 And the end! And aaaaawww the note! Thank you so much!

 

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Here is Babelas twitter with her latest tweet to Patric Weekes https://twitter.com/Insane_brain1 But you don't have to make a twitter if you don't want to! I'm there anyways so I'm happy to be the Harbinger of Our Ascension in twitter  :D

 

I forgot to answer before, but re: headcanon vs. game, I don't think what's in game can ever measure up to a personal headcanon but it's not the game's fault. Personal headcanon is, well, personal, so you can focus and develop aspects of the game that are very compelling to you but may be uninteresting to other players. The game has to make significant content for a lot of different people, and there time and resources constraints that headcanon will never have. 

 

Edit so I don't post three times in a row: Alchemillia I love love love it!!  <3 And the end! And aaaaawww the note! Thank you so much!

 

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I am SO GLAD! <3 I have entered the twitterverse and clicked the things. <3 Edit: just a thought but would it be a good idea to put #dragonageinquisition #Abelas #bioware or other hashtags in the tweets so they might reach a broader audience other than us and the devs themselves? 


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*Slides into the thread with a golden platter* For you my dears. http://archiveofouro...apters/11178265

I am bad with naming things. So you get a cheesy Sorrows Approval. I hope you enjoy the...show. :wub:

 

:o  :o  :o  "I can blame this on the heat later, right?"    :wub:  :wub:  :wub:  

 

So I'm back to playing my Cullenmancing Ellana for the moment because I cannot resist the pull of DOG.  Will continue with Abelas-like Mahanon at a later date.  Both are Knight-Enchanters, what a shocker (not).  I have not forgotten about posting lovely screenshots for you all, but I need to play a sweet romance through first.   :)  Also the VA for the British male Inquisitor mumbles too much.  Sometimes I wonder if he was a bit tipsy in the booth as he slurs a bit.  That's annoying.

 

I play Cillian exclusively in multiplayer, but I am intrigued by Zither, wish I had enough materials to build him.  It seems almost like the Warden class in LOTRO that I love.  Oh, one more thing -- if any of you play DAMP through Origin, my nick is Acanthaceae and feel free to add me.  :)

 

Maybe someday in three or four years when we have Solasmance closure, finally play through one of those.


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*Slides into the thread with a golden platter* For you my dears. http://archiveofouro...apters/11178265

I am bad with naming things. So you get a cheesy Sorrows Approval. I hope you enjoy the...show. :wub:

Loved it! And I very much did enjoy the show :wub: The ending had me smiling and blushing  :wub:  :wub:  :wub:  Ah Abelas we need you in the next game preferably wet and naked <3 Thank you so much for sharing your story! <3


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Hello!
Babelas I don't think Abelas finds himself as alluring. I don't think he has time to think about it or most likely he doesn't care because he has other things to do.

Babelas I remember the times when there weren't many others. Sometimes I was worried that Abelas love will wither but then you come up with different subjects to talk about :)

Alchemillia that story was so lovely! <3  Than you so much for writing it! <3  And you mentioned me :blush: Thank you!

 

I started my second Abelas story.  I might get it done for the celebration! Or not. :D We'll see.


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We have a nice group forming now. I'll still pick out curtains with you if you want SS. <3 There were times when it was just us and there were times when I think it was just Tielis who has been around since post #1, I believe. 

 

It's true... bathing himself under waterfalls with slow methodical strokes while Inky watches really does take up all of Abelas's time.

 

Wait... where is your first story?


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My first Abelas story is here http://forum.bioware.../545605-abelas/

 

And I meant that I can get the first chapter ready soon not the whole story of my second Abelas story.


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@PatrickWeekes Hello! Can you please add Abelas as a companion and/or LI in DA4? He is gorgeous. Thank you, I love your games <3

 

 

To the person who tweeted this: If you happen to venture on to this thread or are someone on the thread...Thank you!   <3


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And I forgot to say that I support your tweet even though I'm not in twitter. It wasn't silly idea. It was a good idea!


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Very glad you enjoyed it! <3 I hope it gave you a bit of blush and happiness. lol Yes Thank you!! To the unknown twitter friend. One of us! One of us!! I faved it and will retweet also! Happy day. :D


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Thanks SS <3 I've never done anything like that before and it means a lot to know you supported it. I have started to notice support for Abelas picking up and it makes me happy regardless of whether or not he ends up in the next game. He was a character that initially received much hate. Trespasser, I think has helped people understand him better. 

 

Some new art... tumblr just loves him :D

 

by: trulynocturnal

 

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“Inquisitor! Please, do not touch the Sentinels!”

(Abelas doesn’t mind. Not at all.)

 

by: juledraws

 

 

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Blessing

 

by: silfrfjodr

 

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There is a sorrow to constancy.

                                                                                           But we endure.


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Alchemillia your story definitely gave me a lot of happiness <3


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Tumblr really does seem to love Abelas...at least the part of tumblr with all the good taste! I saw this one fan art and...well lets just say I can't look at it without having to stand in front of my freezer door for at least 10 minutes afterward. 


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I'm trying to learn this 3d modeling program and I was looking to get my hands on extracted Abelas model stuff but the one I found has his face customized. D: Which is nice and all but I want the authentic grade-a Abelas. Should I just try to learn how to extract that myself or would any of you wonderful folks know where I could find one ready to go? 


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Alch... you can't extract Abelas's face unfortunately. His face is a morph of three faces together. When you extract his face it will split into those three heads. The reason is, that it takes the game's engine to put the heads together to form his face. There is a calculation that happens in other words. That is why you can get say... Solas's head or Cullen's but you can't get Abelas's fully formed head. It is made on the fly. I believe the sentinels are all variations on the base heads, the ones you use to create your Inquisitor. You then get the option to use the sliders to change it. Abelas's head however is calculated in game. 


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Gotcha! Thanks!  Is there a way to make and export a custom Inq. head using the DAI tools? I'm slowly learning how to use them atm. So sorry if that's a noob question. :P 


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Gotcha! Thanks!  Is there a way to make and export a custom Inq. head using the DAI tools? I'm slowly learning how to use them atm. So sorry if that's a noob question. :P

Nope not at the moment and as far as I know for the same exact reason. It's not a static head and requires a calculation. It's not a noob question. It's all very complicated when you are trying to backwards engineer the game. There is quite a bit of unknown when it comes to this because the tools were not created by the devs. I mean the tools work great but there are just limitations. I'm trying to get an exact representation of Abelas's head as opposed to making it up. That's why I was gathering the fly cam pictures so I could use the outline of his profile in the different axis. If I manage to do it, I'd be more than happy to pass the head along to you to use as you wish. :D


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Nope not at the moment and as far as I know for the same exact reason. It's not a static head and requires a calculation. It's not a noob question. It's all very complicated when you are trying to backwards engineer the game. There is quite a bit of unknown when it comes to this because the tools were not created by the devs. I mean the tools work great but there are just limitations. I'm trying to get an exact representation of Abelas's head as opposed to making it up. That's why I was gathering the fly cam pictures so I could use the outline of his profile in the different axis. If I manage to do it, I'd be more than happy to pass the head along to you to use as you wish. :D

Right I should have guessed! Calculated faces means no extraction, be it sexy Abelas or um sexy inq pretending to be Abelas. No fun for me. lol I used to mod DAO and things were much more straight forward. Ah technology how you make me cry. If you get around to it that could be amazing, no pressure though! Thanks for letting me pick your brain dear Babelas!  <3


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Right I should have guessed! Calculated faces means no extraction, be it sexy Abelas or um sexy inq pretending to be Abelas. No fun for me. lol I used to mod DAO and things were much more straight forward. Ah technology how you make me cry. If you get around to it that could be amazing, no pressure though! Thanks for letting me pick your brain dear Babelas!   <3

Oh no worries. You know what's interesting? I had the same exact thought when I started this. I thought if I can't get Abelas's exact head then I can use the heads that were used for him to make my Inky look like him and then extract my Inky. I found out the hard way it was for the same exact reason that you can't extract Inky heads. You just get the base heads used. There is some underlining morph calculation being performed by the engine. Now if you you could get into the save files and extract from them you could probably get both heads. But I don't think you can extract from the saves. I'm not sure... if you find out anything on that front let me know please. My guess is that the calculation will have been performed and the saves will contain the morphed face at a guess. 

 

I even tried several 3d model rippers to try and get his head. I couldn't get any of them to rip Inquisition. I think most of the programs are out of date on the direct 3d front.


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Oh no worries. You know what's interesting? I had the same exact thought when I started this. I thought if I can't get Abelas's exact head then I can use the heads that were used for him to make my Inky look like him and then extract my Inky. I found out the hard way it was for the same exact reason that you can't extract Inky heads. You just get the base heads used. There is some underlining morph calculation being performed by the engine. Now if you you could get into the save files and extract from them you could probably get both heads. But I don't think you can extract from the saves. I'm not sure... if you find out anything on that front let me know please. My guess is that the calculation will have been performed and the saves will contain the morphed face at a guess. 

 

I even tried several 3d model rippers to try and get his head. I couldn't get any of them to rip Inquisition. I think most of the programs are out of date on the direct 3d front.

After a quick search I found this https://www.reddit.c...ulling_sliders/

User Mushashi7 in the comments says they found a way to do that..at least from my limited understanding of DAI mod lingo that's how it sounds. Not sure if its relevant or not. They were looking for "facegen" data for other reasons.

 

I was thinking with his method, if it works, wouldn't you be able to replace a base CC head with your own custom head making it the new base head? If DAI tools even has that ability yet that is.

 

So you would make a head in CC of Abelas say save that character and then do the save data extracty thing, make this file match the one the normal base head uses and then replace a specific Elf male head file with your custom file making it the  new base. Extract that Get Abelas's head or ya'know as close we  can come with cc... Lots of ifs. Does this make sense? I don't think that makes sense...i am probably using way outdated mod logic. Last gen logic Babelas! Ancient Gen logic Babelas!


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Hmmm I'm looking into this. With the new tools if you can get into your saves this way you might be able to export the model... but I need some times to go over this because back then it was only face coordinates they could extract. It may be you can extract the model. I don't know if anyone has tried it with the newer tools

 

Wait... why would you cc the model and then make it a base? 


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Hmmm I'm looking into this. With the new tools if you can get into your saves this way you might be able to export the model... but I need some times to go over this because back then it was only face coordinates they could extract. It may be you can extract the model. I don't know if anyone has tried it with the newer tools

 

Wait... why would you cc the model and then make it a base? 

Didn't you say you could extract the base heads? If you can make a new base..then you can..extract that base..


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