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[dlux]

I have seen people on this forum complain we don't have enough communication from Bioware since the release, can you blame them?

 

Look at this thread which started with some one's worries about sale so a Bioware employee turned up stating that sales were going very well but 3 days and 13 pages later people are still predicting the death of Bioware. It must feel like they are banging their heads against a brick wall.

 

I'm also constantly surprised to see how many people are surprised Inquisition isn't outselling the games on that list.

Dragon Age: Origins made the NPD top 10 in November 2009. These numbers are without PC sales and the platforms are not combined. And to be fair, DA:O went on sale on the 3rd, DA:I on the 17th.

 

source

 

In a best case scenaro DA:I is only selling slightly better than DA:O, although EA butchered the franchise to make it more accessible and subsequently push sales. Kind of funny when you think about it.

 

Verdict:

Spoiler

[keyip]

Dragon Age: Origins made the NPD top 10 in November 2009. 

 

Partly because it was released on Novermber 3rd and not November the 18th like Inquisitions...

 

360k? Inquisition's is well infront.

[Andraste_Reborn]

You misspelled "insane asylum".

 

Frankly, the asylums I've been to are much better supervised. And there are fewer people yelling about Baldur's Gate.

[DemGeth]

Well it sold close to 600k which is more than 350k i think.  

 

As far as butchering franchise I think DA:I is great personally. 

[dlux]

Partly because it was released on Novermber 3rd and not November the 18th like Inquisitions...

Try reading the first sentence of my post. There is some info there about the PC and release dates.

[WillieStyle]

Dragon Age: Origins made the NPD top 10 in November 2009. These numbers are without PC sales and the platforms are not comined. And to be fair, DA:O went on sale on the 3rd, DA:I on the 17th.

 

 

In a best case scenaro DA:I is only selling slightly better than DA:O, although EA butchered the franchise to make it more accessible and subsequently push sales. Kind of funny when you think about it.

 

Do people even understand how rankings work?  You acknowledge that DA:O had 27 days of sales in November whereas Inquisition only had 13.  And yet you claim that at best, this means DA:I is only selling slightly better than DA:O?!  Do you realize that, all else being equal, removing 50% of a games sales days could shift its ranking by a lot more than 10 spots?  I mean, Math is hard, but it's not THAT hard.

 

Also, what percentage of games sales were digital in 2009?  Has that percentage changed at all in the last five years?  Are people really this innumerate or are they just trolling me.  Why am I even bothering with this thread?  Which is superior: pie or cake?

[SomberXIII]

God. Really. Spreading hate in every post? Posts popped in and were always from the same users with the same profile images. I can't help but forsee the nature of posts these users bring.

[JCAP]

Hi guys - obviously it's a drag not to see DAI on that top 10 list for November. I can't really give any figures of course...However, from what I know about the sales numbers (a) DAI is doing great and well ahead of it's predecessors, and a significant percentage of sales of DAI are digital and not tracked by NPD. If anything, I'm more worried about the weird signals this chart sends to the market about DAI, as opposed to the reality of our unit sales

Am I the only one who read this? Or are we assuming that Bioware staff are all liars?

[Grieving Natashina]

Frankly, the asylums I've been to are much better supervised. And there are fewer people yelling about Baldur's Gate.

This made me laugh probably harder than it should have.  

 

God. Really. Spreading hate in every post? Posts popped in and were always from the same users with the same profile images. I can't help but forsee the nature of posts these users bring.

I can be a smartass, but I don't like spreading hate around.  I often lament that we can't just enjoy games instead of picking at each other.  

 

 

Am I the only one who read this? Or are we assuming that Bioware staff are all liars?

Nope, not the only one, I promise.

[keyip]

Try reading the first sentence of my post. There is some info there about the PC and release dates.

 

Inquisitions topped Origins first month's figure in about a week. No contest, Inquisitions has blown Origins out of the water. Not only is all the evidence pointing to this, it has already been confirmed Inquisitions is selling much better.

 

I don't know what else to say, people aren't after what Origins offers.

[SomberXIII]

Group 1: EA and Bioware are liars.

Group 2: I love them! They are my life!

 

Gamer 1: GotY, do not deny!

Gamer 2: It is a ****.

 

lol. This would be more awesome than a comedy film. *grab popcorns*

[dlux]

Do people even understand how rankings work?  You acknowledge that DA:O had 27 days of sales in November whereas Inquisition only had 13.  And yet you claim that at best, this means DA:I is only selling slightly better than DA:O?!  Do you realize that, all else being equal, removing 50% of a games sales days could shift its ranking by a lot more than 10 spots?  I mean, Math is hard, but it's not THAT hard.
 
Also, what percentage of games sales were digital in 2009?  Has that percentage changed at all in the last five years?  Are people really this innumerate or are they just trolling me.  Why am I even bothering with this thread?  Which is superior: pie or cake?

50% more sales time does not equal in 50% higher sales. The first 2 weeks of sales are substantially higher than subsequent weeks. Not to mention that PC sales are not included in NPD's top 10 for November 2009 unlike NPD's top 10 for November 2014.
 
The info is there, you just have to try and interpret it. Not throwing a fit usually helps. 
 

Inquisitions topped Origins first month's figure in about a week. No contest, Inquisitions has blown Origins out of the water.

If that was true then it would be in NPD's top 10 for November 2014 with 700K to 1m sales. But it isn't.
 

Not only is all the evidence pointing to this, it has already been confirmed Inquisitions is selling much better.

Not according to NPD.

[keyip]

If that was true then it would be in NPD's top 10 for November 2014 with 700K to 1m sales. But it isn't.
 

 

No actually. All it would need to do is sell around 600k, which by all reports it did. 

 

Not to mention that PC sales 

 

PC sales aren't included in that list for Nov 2014

 

Not according to NPD.

 

The information coming from people who've seen the figures... say otherwise.

[Lebanese Dude]

Which is superior: pie or cake?

 

Most definitely pie

for it is not a lie

[WillieStyle]

50% more sales time does not equal in 50% higher sales. The first 2 weeks of sales are substantially higher than subsequent weeks. Not to mention that PC sales are not included in that list unlike the list for NPD November 2014.
 

 

Where did I suggest that 50% more sales days would result in 50% higher sales?  And what does it matter if one list included PC sales while the other didn't?  Haven't digital sales on consoles increased over the last 5 years?  And aren't we talking about rankings (top 10 or not)?  Or are you suggesting that Inquisition hasn't sold more copies in its first month of release than Origins?  If you are, I was giving you far too much credit.

 

[Edit]

You are trying to argue that Inquisition hasn't outsold Origins in its first month.  I was giving you far too much credit.

[ZipZap2000]

Frankly, the asylums I've been to are much better supervised. And there are fewer people yelling about Baldur's Gate

'Baldurs Gate' DRINK! 

 

Am I the only one who read this? Or are we assuming that Bioware staff are all liars?

Please link me to this comment.

[Lebanese Dude]

This thread though.

[keyip]

Please link me to this comment.

 

http://forum.bioware...nov/?p=18059466

[dlux]

No actually. All it would need to do is sell around 600k, which by all reports it did.

The only reliable info that we have is NPD's top 10, although they have posted any numbers yet. Doesn't seem likely that DA:I did much better than DA:O if it didn't make the top 10.
 

PC sales aren't included in that list for Nov 2014

They are included according to the source.
 

The information coming from people who've seen the figures... say otherwise.

Ok, I have acknoweldged that. But this is what NPD says.

[ZipZap2000]

Holy snausages...Pokeman sold more copies than DAI?

 

You're surprised? Inter-generational fanatic fanbase build up over the course of more than a decade. Same formula GTAV uses. 

[SomberXIII]

This thread though.

Where are the moderators when we need them? 

 

 

Ok, I have acknoweldged that. But this is what NPD says.

 

Do you believe NPD?

[ZipZap2000]

http://forum.bioware...nov/?p=18059466

 

Thanks mate. 

[DemGeth]

You can see how npd does it on their site.

 

PC sales are estimated from steam stats, mmo sales, and amazon. 

[Adeph]

How do they estimate a game that isn't on Steam? That sounds more like a guess to me...

[dlux]

And what does it matter if one list included PC sales while the other didn't?

Because some games are console only. If you don't include PC sales, then a substantial amount of sales for multiplatform titles are missing.
 

Haven't digital sales on consoles increased over the last 5 years?

Yes and it is irrelevant, because digital sales of specific titles should not be substantially higher or lower than digitial sales of other titles. AFAIK Nintendo doesn't sell games digitally though.
 

And aren't we talking about rankings (top 10 or not)? Or are you suggesting that Inquisition hasn't sold more copies in its first month of release than Origins?  If you are, I was giving you far too much credit.

In my verdict it says that DA:I isn't doing too much better than DA:O in a best case scenario. That could mean that sales of DA:I over the first 4 weeks might be 100 - 150K higher. I do not deny that DA:I might be doing better than DA:O in its first weeks, but a lot of people are denying that their ZOMG GOTY could be selling (slightly) worse than DA:O did.