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[NextGenCowboy]

Serious question, How well did origins sell in its first month?

 

It sold about 380k in the same period we're judging here. I don't have month by month, its final total appears to be around 3 million.

[Typhrus]

Just going to point out, that while the NA market is important, there are other parts of the world that got the game So far, it doesn't seem to take into account copies sold in the international market. Arguably then, they have incomplete data to make any real accurate assessment of how well, or badly the game is selling. Of course there is the little problem of not including digital downloads as well....

[Morroian]

How much did the 10th game on that list sell in November?

[NextGenCowboy]

Just going to point out, that while the NA market is important, there are other parts of the world that got the game So far, it doesn't seem to take into account copies sold in the international market. Arguably then, they have incomplete data to make any real accurate assessment of how well, or badly the game is selling. Of course there is the little problem of not including digital downloads as well....

The game debuted in either 5th, or 3rd place in the U.K. dependin on which list you look at. It seems to have dropped since then. No numbers to back that up at the moment, nor do I have any info on AU, or or other regions.

 

It should be noted that these regions got even less of a chance for sales in November, as the games only had 3 days in Japan.

[StrangeStrategy]

1, 2, 4, 8.

Faith in humanity flickered slightly

[Eelectrica]

Remember BioWare have given themselves a few methods of making extra $$$ with minigame in the DA keep and also Selling Platinum in MP, which is as much or more than buying the game itself.

 

I'd suggest there first MP DLC pack be  a good one though or they could  lose right there.

[Jaron Oberyn]

Remember BioWare have given themselves a few methods of making extra $$$ with minigame in the DA keep and also Selling Platinum in MP, which is as much or more than buying the game itself.
 
I'd suggest there first MP DLC pack be  a good one though or they could  lose right there.

The multiplayer dlc will be free, just like me3.

[Morroian]

I'd suggest there first MP DLC pack be  a good one though or they could  lose right there.

 

has to be because vanilla MP is not that great

[DemGeth]

If you haven't played multi there is literally no reason to buy plat.

Yeah bioware has some franchise stuff that helps make cash though sure.

I'd be surprised if the average user spent post purchase is close to some of ea's cash cows though.

[Viidicus]

How is this a surprise how about bioware stop trying to compete with the AAA and just make some good damn rpgs you don't need overblown dam budgets and you shouldn't be trying to squeeze every penny.
They fucked up when they sold to EA.

Stay independent, you make damn rpgs you have, or had a loyal fan base that would buy your products and you'd make a profit, sure not like CoD levels but you were making a profit similar to dark souls and other niche games.

[In Exile]

How is this a surprise how about bioware stop trying to compete with the AAA and just make some good damn rpgs you don't need overblown dam budgets and you shouldn't be trying to squeeze every penny.
They fucked up when they sold to EA.

Stay independent, you make damn rpgs you have, or had a loyal fan base that would buy your products and you'd make a profit, sure not like CoD levels but you were making a profit similar to dark souls and other niche games.

 

NWN was a disaster. JE was a bit of a flop after KoTOR. ME was a risky longshot that could have killed the company. Living paycheck to paycheck is not great. 

[AlanC9]

How is this a surprise how about bioware stop trying to compete with the AAA and just make some good damn rpgs you don't need overblown dam budgets and you shouldn't be trying to squeeze every penny.
They fucked up when they sold to EA.
Stay independent, you make damn rpgs you have, or had a loyal fan base that would buy your products and you'd make a profit, sure not like CoD levels but you were making a profit similar to dark souls and other niche games.

The conceptual problem with this is that Bio never wanted to be a niche publisher.

[wolfhowwl]

NWN was a disaster. JE was a bit of a flop after KoTOR. ME was a risky longshot that could have killed the company. Living paycheck to paycheck is not great. 

 

Did NWN flop commercially or were people just enraged that they got the RPG equivalent of a Battlefield campaign with the OC?

[Viidicus]

NWN was a disaster. JE was a bit of a flop after KoTOR. ME was a risky longshot that could have killed the company. Living paycheck to paycheck is not great. 

That was a bad time for rpgs all round, dao was very successful. If they would have stuck through like Bethesda did they'd be fine except they decided to change their formula with each game

The conceptual problem with this is that Bio never wanted to be a niche publisher.

They make rpgs. 

Similar to hitman games (which they squandered with absolution), similar to dark souls these games have a loyal fan base because they're unique in the market and it's a niche market.

 

Don't want to be a niche publisher?  Fine make a new ip that's targeted to a wide audience that probably isn't an rpg

[AlanC9]

They make rpgs.
Similar to hitman games (which they squandered with absolution), similar to dark souls these games have a loyal fan base because they're unique in the market and it's a niche market.

Don't want to be a niche publisher? Fine make a new ip that's targeted to a wide audience that probably isn't an rpg

So you're saying that AAA-class RPGs can't work (at least, with a North American/Western European cost structure)? It's conceivable. Depends on what we mean by RPG, of course, but lets's not do that today.

[Viidicus]

So you're saying that AAA-classRPGs can't work (at least, with a North American/Western European cost structure)? It's conceivable. Depends on what we mean by RPG, of course, but lets's not do that today.

They don't,  rpgs have never sold well. You might be able to point out 1 or 2 that have out of the hundreds. 

Companies could easily make a fully voice version of planescape torment with dai graphics in 3D and all that jazz. But it won't sell for ****,  they'll make a profit of it no doubt as there is a market for it,  it's just not enough 

[AlanC9]

So Bio should break up into a traditional RPG group and a cinematic game group? Would either of those end up feeling like Bioware?

[Jarrett Lee]

Hi guys - obviously it's a drag not to see DAI on that top 10 list for November. I can't really give any figures of course...However, from what I know about the sales numbers (a) DAI is doing great and well ahead of it's predecessors, and a significant percentage of sales of DAI are digital and not tracked by NPD. If anything, I'm more worried about the weird signals this chart sends to the market about DAI, as opposed to the reality of our unit sales

[ashwind]

Hi guys - obviously it's a drag not to see DAI on that top 10 list for November. I can't really give any figures of course...However, from what I know about the sales numbers (a) DAI is doing great and well ahead of it's predecessors, and a significant percentage of sales of DAI are digital and not tracked by NPD. If anything, I'm more worried about the weird signals this chart sends to the market about DAI, as opposed to the reality of our unit sales

 

So it means you guys owe us an Expansion no? I would be pretty       cross if I dont get more answers about the epilogue. 

[Jarrett Lee]

So it means you guys owe us an Expansion no? I would be pretty       cross if I dont get more answers about the epilogue. 

 

I am not at liberty to say

[Viidicus]

 (a) DAI is doing great and well ahead of it's predecessors

Well I mean that's a given,  it's the 3rd installment.  Skyrim did far better than its predecessors as did gta 5. It's the snowball like effect.

[X Equestris]

Hi guys - obviously it's a drag not to see DAI on that top 10 list for November. I can't really give any figures of course...However, from what I know about the sales numbers (a) DAI is doing great and well ahead of it's predecessors, and a significant percentage of sales of DAI are digital and not tracked by NPD. If anything, I'm more worried about the weird signals this chart sends to the market about DAI, as opposed to the reality of our unit sales

That's reassuring.

[Jarrett Lee]

Well I mean that's a given,  it's the 3rd installment.  Skyrim did far better than its predecessors as did gta 5. It's the snowball like effect.

 

Ah...I hate to be the one to say this, but coming off DA2 it's not really a given      Skyrim came off Oblivion, and GTA 5 off GTA 4. Both were well north of 90 MC I think.

[NextGenCowboy]

In general I try to be a realist. There are a lot of elements in play; turning a profit after development/advertisement cost, garnering acclaim, and balancing making the types of game one wants, with one that will sell well and appease as many people as possible. It's a lot of things all swirling around at once, but if the sales are "great", then...

 

"Excuse me while I do my happy dance".

 

I make no apologies.

[Epyon5757]

First, I can't believe there are people who actually thought DAI - an RPG that requires a significant time commitment - would crack the top ten list from NPD on monthly sales.

 

Second, even if the game had that kind of chart potential - which it doesn't because it's not sports or a nonstop shoot/stab fest - it was out less than half the month in the USA, so it never would have cracked that top ten anyway.

 

Third, it will never crack a monthly top ten list anywhere because of the relative youth of the Dragon Age franchise compared to, well, everything else on the top ten.  Those top ten games are some of the best selling franchises in all of gaming history.  All of them have been around at least 10 years, and many of them 20.  DA has five years under its belt.

 

Fourth, all rules of retail pricing should be suspended during holiday season.  If someone is offering it on sale, that company is taking a calculated hit in an attempt to boost traffic and drive accessory sales.  A better gauge will be when we see across the board discounts on the game - drops in the regular price on the new consoles and pc, not sale prices.  PS3 and 360 prices may drop sooner as those two platforms fade away.

 

Finally, BioWare's best selling game the last eight years - which I think was Mass Effect 3 - never would have come close to a monthly top ten.

 

BioWare is a niche studio, catering to a very specific audience.  I find their games the best I've ever played, but expecting them to crack heads with Madden, GTA, AC, Pokemon - which are all very different types of games from what BioWare produces - is insanity.  

 

I won't disclose my sources, but they are very good.  Across first three weeks, DAI has done better than Origins and DA2 combined in physical copies moved.  The positive reviews in everywhere that isn't BSN should keep a steady stream of traffic for the next four or five months, particularly if the DLC is good.

 

The decision of whether or not there is a DA4 will be up to EA.  Other things to remember: EA has no other RPG studios.  DAI would therefore likely have to suffer a massive, gigantic net loss that goes well beyond "underperforming" for Edmonton to close, because DA franchise is EA's only competitor to Elder Scrolls and Witcher.  If there's one thing EA is good for, it is that they want to dominate every subcategory in gaming.