I hope it impresses EA. I bet this game was the big bet to EA:
Bioware said give us time and money, and we will make an epic game, which means money for EA. EA said fine, we will test the numbers.
I won't be surprised if we get another DA2 quality (see: shitty and rushed) for DA4 or even ME4
Hi guys - obviously it's a drag not to see DAI on that top 10 list for November. I can't really give any figures of course...However, from what I know about the sales numbers (a) DAI is doing great and well ahead of it's predecessors, and a significant percentage of sales of DAI are digital and not tracked by NPD. If anything, I'm more worried about the weird signals this chart sends to the market about DAI, as opposed to the reality of our unit sales
Good to know that the studio's tracking is similar to my sources, which are in the industry but not affiliated with BioWare or EA.
I hope y'all keep doing what you're doing. I have yet to play a BioWare game I didn't enjoy to a great degree.
I hope it impresses EA. I bet this game was the big bet to EA:
Bioware said give us time and money, and we will make an epic game, which means money for EA. EA said fine, we will test the numbers.
I won't be surprised if we get another DA2 quality (see: shitty and rushed) for DA4 or even ME4
DA2 was probably rushed, but definitely not "shitty." Outside of the small and recycled levels, I enjoyed DA2 and found the characters and main storylines to be better written than Origins was.
ME franchise is the one with the highest ceiling because it does have shooter elements. Given the blowback on the ending to 3 (which felt rushed), I don't think EA or BioWare can rush ME4 and still keep the franchise viable long term. And I had no real problem with the ending, once I reflected on it. More gamers should read philosophy.
The decision of whether or not there is a DA4 will be up to EA. Other things to remember: EA has no other RPG studios. DAI would therefore likely have to suffer a massive, gigantic net loss that goes well beyond "underperforming" for Edmonton to close, because DA franchise is EA's only competitor to Elder Scrolls and Witcher. If there's one thing EA is good for, it is that they want to dominate every subcategory in gaming.
Something like the logic of the Cancellation Bear for network TV, right? "I don't have to outrun the bear, I only have to outrun you."
Not too far off of that. The sheer difficulty of bringing a new IP to market, particularly in a smaller category like RPG, likely means that there's a well funded sequel in a few years even if all the game does is break even. Between FIFA and Madden, EA has enough cash that they can give a franchise another shot if it loses money on an installment. DA2 was released so quickly that I don't think it had that big of a budget. DAI probably needs to track ahead of DAO sales by about 5%.
Fortunately, DAI should make a profit.
Yeah, Dragon Age is in a weird spot. It has no identity of its own after three very different games. It's owned by Bioware and by EA, a (formerly?) much-loved developer and much-loathed publisher. It's popular online (although with a fair share of haters) and critically acclaimed, but doesn't have the raw sales numbers or public exposure.
To be perfectly honest, I can't say I'm all that surprised for two reasons: first, NPD, while generally very reliable, doesn't track digital sales, and second, DA:I, for all intents and purposes, was never about to win against other blockbusters named on that list.
That said, this does have me a bit worried, considering how sales affected DA2 back in the day.
Have a look at the post by Jarrett Lee, a Bio employee who has said the game has so far outsold DAO and DA2 combined (edit: at this point after their respective releases, not in total obviously). While there is never any guarantee, I think reports of Dragon Age's demise are being exaggeratedTo be perfectly honest, I can't say I'm all that surprised for two reasons: first, NPD, while generally very reliable, doesn't track digital sales, and second, DA:I, for all intents and purposes, was never about to win against other blockbusters named on that list.
That said, this does have me a bit worried, considering how sales affected DA2 back in the day.
Have a look at the post by Jarrett Lee, a Bio employee who has said the game has so far outsold DAO and DA2 combined. While there is never any guarantee, I think reports of Dragon Age's demise are being exaggerated
I've seen it.
Also, I like the reference in your post. 
The list looks correct to me. Half of those games are from the action / shooter genre.
Action / Shooter games destroy RPG's when it comes to overall game sales.
51.9 % of the games sold in the US last year were action / shooters.
Next on the list were sports games, which took 12.7% of the market. You've got a couple of those on your list.
Adventure/Family entertainment games took 12.4 % of the market. You've got about 3 of those on your list.
So, the list makes perfect sense to me.
Only 7% of games sold last year were role-playing games.
i believe most of the sale comes from Origins. It made more sense to buy it off Origins if you are going to play on PC. U get it at midnight, u can preload it, it get updated immediately and u need Origins to play it anyway.
i believe most of the sale comes from Origins. It made more sense to buy it off Origins if you are going to play on PC. U get it at midnight, u can preload it, it get updated immediately and u need Origins to play it anyway.
Yeah. I mean, I know it's anecdotal at this point, but of the three people plus myself that I know of who have bought Inquisition, we've all done so digitally. DAI was actually my first digital purchase of a Bioware title.
They're still making Pokemon games?
Inquisitions will go on to sell more than any single one of those titles, worldwide, over the next three months. Probably significantly more. For one, it has more appeal relatively speaking to a European audience than an American one, two, it's only just appeared on the market anyway, three, it has inherent longevity and will continue to get critical acclaim as more people get familiar with it. Because, despite it's flaws, and it does have flaws, it is an amazing game.
They're still making Pokemon games?
Generation VI and still going strong! I just finished Alpha Sapphire yesterday; it was a great distraction from my burning need to play Inquisition again. (I've promised myself that I won't do what I did with DA2 and play it back-to-back for months, neglecting every other game on my Pile Of Shame.)
... back on topic, I'm pleased to hear that DAI is actually selling well! Hopefully the awards it's picking up will help it shift a few more copies, too. I know I just bought two more as Christmas presents.
Hi guys - obviously it's a drag not to see DAI on that top 10 list for November. I can't really give any figures of course...However, from what I know about the sales numbers (a) DAI is doing great and well ahead of it's predecessors, and a significant percentage of sales of DAI are digital and not tracked by NPD. If anything, I'm more worried about the weird signals this chart sends to the market about DAI, as opposed to the reality of our unit sales
It worries me how little sense many of the doom sayers have in this thread. I can only assume you judge everything on a first look, and start calling for the sky to fall down.
While i know many of you just assume that everyone that works for EA/Bioware is an idiot, most of them are not. They do not look at the positioning of a sales chart to decide the future of a franchise. If they did, DA:I would never have been made after DA2, and DA2 would never have been made after DA:O.
This is about sales expectactions over the lifetime of a product.DA:I. Instead of projecting your wishful thinking on to charts that have long since been discredited, try to understand how return on investment works.
I've heard people (friends and family) say how they're waiting until after Christmas. And these are people that have never been interested in Dragon Age before now. I think this game has a much bigger reach than previous DA games, but it'll take a bit longer than the 12 days (or 8 in some parts) of November for which it was available, to flourish.
Alot of my friends are also PC gamers, patiently waiting for the time when DAI is no longer a console port before they buy. So there are sales coming their way once it's fixed with patches.
Besides 1 and 2 I would never play the other ones.
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