Well, if you want to go by something as unreliable as vgchartz numbers (which were apparently believable enough when trying to demonstrate the game has flopped) then DAI still had strong ongoing sales during its 7-10th week. On level of DAO if not better, and way ahead of the disaster that was DA2 in this regard.
Vgchartz posts completely unreliable imaginary numbers.
Well, it's more accurate to say "it just isn't as good for a particular faction of Bioware's hardcore fan base." There are plenty of hardcore Bio fans here who like DAI just fine, unless we want to go all No True Scotsman here.
Nope. I'm not going to let a loud minority co-opt the mantle of Bioware's hardcore fan base. I've been playing Bioware games nonstop for 15 years. I have 95% of the accomplishments completed. And I love DA:I.
Agreed. I'm a 'hardcore' Bioware fan. I've been buying their games since the 90's. I've bought every single one of their games since Baldur's Gate with the exception of the Sonic RPG. The only one that I never beat was NWN.
That being said, I really like DA: I. I like it much better than DA 2, ME 2, and SWTOR. It's not my favorite Bioware game (that is still a close race between KOTOR and DA: O), but it's a solid middle ground edition to their catalog. And I'll happily buy their next game without a second guess.
Agreed. I'm a 'hardcore' Bioware fan. I've been buying their games since the 90's. I've bought every single one of their games since Baldur's Gate with the exception of the Sonic RPG. The only one that I never beat was NWN.
That being said, I like DA: I. I like it much better than DA 2, ME 2, and SWTOR. It's not my favorite Bioware game (that is still a close race between KOTOR and DA: O), but it's a solid middle ground edition to their catalog. And I'll happily buy their next game without a second guess.
I can't take your opinion seriously without that Sonic RPG.
Nope. I'm not going to let a loud minority co-opt the mantle of Bioware's hardcore fan base. I've been playing Bioware games nonstop for 15 years. I have 95% of the accomplishments completed. And I love DA:I.
I'm mostly puzzled over people calling themselves 'hardcore' in referring to a specific fanbase. I think the abbreviation of 'fanatic' just about does the job.
I can't take your opinion seriously without that Sonic RPG.
Well, there we go. We figured out the line you need to cross to be 'hardcore', I guess. Now I just need to buy a DS and a 10 year old RPG to get my badge of honor.
Well, there we go. We figured out the line you need to cross to be 'hardcore', I guess. Now I just need to buy a DS and a 10 year old RPG to get my badge of honor.
Glad you didn't take me seriously. I played that one pretty straight that I was worried you might be offended. 
Well, there we go. We figured out the line you need to cross to be 'hardcore', I guess. Now I just need to buy a DS and a 10 year old RPG to get my badge of honor.
6K posts on BSN isn't badge enough?
6K posts on BSN isn't badge enough?
I'd say that is a better indication of being a "hardcore" Bioware fan than owning all of their games and playing them six times over each.
A hardcore fan of the games doesn't have time to waste posting on the forums
Certainly, but like I said those imaginary numbers were apparently believable enough to cite when they matched the people's sentiment of "hurr durr they only sold so few copies, TOTAL FLOP".Vgchartz posts completely unreliable imaginary numbers.
6K posts on BSN isn't badge enough?
Obviously anybody under 10k posts is casual =P
And I disagree. I'm a hardcore fan who's been playing BioWare games since 1999, and I think BioWare had been largely heading away from what made their early games (BG, NWN) great. Aside from DAO, they'd been moving in the wrong direction for years. And DAI is a tremendous return to form.I think this is what we have to realize. "Typical people" seem to love inquisition, it just isn't as good for those of us that are Bioware's hardcore fan base from previous releases that were not such a hit with a "typical person". We either have to accept it, and continue supporting Bioware and buying the stuff they put out, or move on to another company that releases the software we want, even if it isn't very popular with the "typical person"
Obviously anybody under 10k posts is casual =P
You just drew this conclusion based on me asking a question. I made no claims.Launch sales are important but overall sales over the game's lifetime aren't?
You can't be serious. You must have failed economics hard.
On what do you base your "educated" guess?If the average playtime was only 12 hrs then that would mean that many people hate the game.
Anyway, an educated guess says that the average playtime is somewhere between 40 - 60 hours for a game with 150+ hours of filler.
I'd ask you why you think do, but you'd probably reply with a heavily opinionated response rather any form of thorough logical reasoning.Bioware and EA seem happy enough.
Just have to accept bioware are looking at the lowest common denominator when designing games and that LCD is lower than a snakes... um yeah...
Thankfully companies are still making games which require some thought just not Bioware anymore.
I'd ask you why you think do, but you'd probably reply with a heavily opinionated response rather any form of thorough logical reasoning.
That's fine though, just refrain from framing your opinions as fact. Kinda childish.
More childish than assuming another person's opinion, attitude and ability of logical reasoning and then draw a conclusion from all those assumptions?
Vgchartz posts completely unreliable imaginary numbers.
Considering it's fairly typical that those who resort to hyperbolic statements to do so, it's an intelligent assumption.More childish than assuming another person's opinion, attitude and ability of logical reasoning and then draw a conclusion from all those assumptions?
Well, you apparently disagreed with me.You just drew this conclusion based on me asking a question. I made no claims.
You're the one making positive claims. You're the one who needs evidence. I was asking for that evidence, and your response was an ad hominem.
Aha, and on what do you base your educated guess?On what do you base your "educated" guess?
Most people don't spend anywhere near that much time playing games. Even 40 hours seems high. 30 maybe. Are you considering unplayed games? I have lots of games I've never played, or only played briefly (less than an hour). Not because I dislike them, but because I just haven't played them.
113 * 10 ^ 6 h / 84 h = 1.5 * 10 ^ 6
It might be a good idea to just report him if he insults you by saying you're acting childish and incapable of logical reasoning.More childish than assuming another person's opinion, attitude and ability of logical reasoning and then draw a conclusion from all those assumptions?
It might be a good idea to just report him if he insults you by saying you're acting childish and incapable of logical reasoning.
If one has to resort to getting the moderation staff involved that is essentially conceding that one cannot hold ones own ground in a given argument. That's just pathetic.
over 113 million hours. 1.13 million people could have played 100 hours each, just in the single player campaign. that's a lot man. That's a whole lot.
Always the case.If one has to resort to getting the moderation staff involved that is essentially conceding that one cannot hold ones own ground in a given argument. That's just pathetic.
This thread is still going? Even with Sylvius here it feels likes a circular argument now.
I'd ask you why you think do, but you'd probably reply with a heavily opinionated response rather any form of thorough logical reasoning.
Just because you dislike DAI for one reason or another, doesn't make it a bad game. It just means it's not your cup of tea.
That's fine though, just refrain from framing your opinions as fact. Kinda childish.
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