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[CaIIisto]

November was a VERY heavy month release-wise, with some huge franchises - CoD, Halo, GTA - DAI was never going to top those.

I really like GTA V, but DAI is a better game to me, and it's far, FAR better than CoD or Halo.

Saddens me that a PoS like Advanced Warfare just strolls into top spot.

[Spaceweed10]

Hi guys - obviously it's a drag not to see DAI on that top 10 list for November. I can't really give any figures of course...However, from what I know about the sales numbers (a) DAI is doing great and well ahead of it's predecessors, and a significant percentage of sales of DAI are digital and not tracked by NPD. If anything, I'm more worried about the weird signals this chart sends to the market about DAI, as opposed to the reality of our unit sales

 

So publish some figures then - simple.

[ronniecross2]

So publish some figures then - simple.

 

erm... lol... I think if I just decided to publish the figures, takings, sales, etc. for the company where I work, I'd get fired.

 

I really don't think it is that simple, but ok ;-)

[X Equestris]

So publish some figures then - simple.

That's hardly as simple as you think it is.

[theluc76]

if a sequel is to be as DA2 or DAI, I prefer not getting one.

[simpatikool]

If it makes anyone feel better, there is not a single game on that list that I would purchase. I would not shake my head to some one gifting me Madden NFL 15, but otherwise....

[Jaron Oberyn]

Hi guys - obviously it's a drag not to see DAI on that top 10 list for November. I can't really give any figures of course...However, from what I know about the sales numbers (a) DAI is doing great and well ahead of it's predecessors, and a significant percentage of sales of DAI are digital and not tracked by NPD. If anything, I'm more worried about the weird signals this chart sends to the market about DAI, as opposed to the reality of our unit sales

 

I figured. People are too quick to jump to conclusions or take the word of outside sources. Good to hear. 

 

 

So publish some figures then - simple.

And why must they acquiesce to your request again? They'll do it when they are ready. 

[ronniecross2]

if a sequel is to be as DA2 or DAI, I prefer not getting one.

 

Wouldn't you rather just not play the sequel if you'd decided it wasn't for you, rather than wish upon the cancellation of the series against the desires of those who actually enjoy the franchise, opposed to just one game within the franchise?

[Gel214th]

I think the engine should be cleaned up, more features for PC UI and mouse and keyboard should be added, and they should keep this going with DLCs for the next year or more. I'm not sure we need to wait another two years for a Dragon Age 4, we should get constant DLC updates every three to four months or so :-) 

 

Oh how glorious this would have been if players could make their own content. Can you imagine a neverending Dragon Age Inquisition game with this beautiful graphics engine? A return to NEverwinter Nights days with modern technology...

 

Oh ! What was found and what was lost...

[Sidney]

The fact that Madden still sells that well makes me sad. The rest I'm not shocked are on the list - I ish I could make 2 of the same game and give them different names like Pokemon does and have them sells a crap ton like that.

 

Dragon Age and it's ilk are always going to be smaller than the big games because the gameplay isn't mass appeal - and by gameplay i mean combat. I've always said the strength of Skyrim isn't the RPG things people here drool over but that the guys playing CoD can pick it up and basically play the same game (first person shooting) for awhile. XCOM the reboot didn't sell "well" despite all the accolades and nice press -- 1.65m compared to say a mess like Duke Nukem that sold 1.95m (using VGChartz so apples to apples even if not "accurate"). For all the people who say DA is an "action" game that is the problem, it isn't and that is a limit on the ceiling it can reach.

[dlux]

No idea where you got those numbers from @OP, but if they are from VGChartz, you should know that their numbers are completely unreliable. Don't believe any number they post on their site, they are extremely inaccurate.

 

Hi guys - obviously it's a drag not to see DAI on that top 10 list for November. I can't really give any figures of course...However, from what I know about the sales numbers (a) DAI is doing great and well ahead of it's predecessors, and a significant percentage of sales of DAI are digital and not tracked by NPD. If anything, I'm more worried about the weird signals this chart sends to the market about DAI, as opposed to the reality of our unit sales 

Well, DA:I is not the only game that is sold digitally... So your point is?

 

Those are all well established franchises.  So not many people are familiar with Dragon Age then say GTA or Assassin's Creed.  But hey, at least it won GOTY.

DA:I is NOT Game of the year. It won a single GOTY award and that is it. Here is a summary of GOTY awards awarded by various publications and organizations. As you can see, there are tons of GOTY awards.

[ronniecross2]

No idea where you got those numbers from @OP, but if they are from VGChartz, you should know that their numbers are completely unreliable. Don't believe any number they post on their site, they are extremely inaccurate.

 

Well, DA:I is not the only game that is sold digitally... So your point is?

 

DA:I is NOT Game of the year. It won a single GOTY award and that is it. Here is a summary of GOTY awards awarded by various publications and organizations. As you can see, there are tons of GOTY awards.

 

Actually, I've heard of 6 so far, and a probable 2 more (at least) on the way. 

 

From your own link:

Edge

The Game Awards

Good Game

 

Also, GOTY, Console GOTY and PC GOTY from Kotaku. 

 

As for the probables, GameSpot is looking positive, and GameInformer this year has been very Dragon Age interested. It wouldn't surprise me if the GI GOTY this year went to DAI. 

[NextGenCowboy]

The point is that digital sales and PC  sales aren't included in the numbers. Meaning some games, like Smash Bros, released Nov 3 had both its systems accounted for, as well as a 15 day head start in terms of sales, while DAI had 12 days of sales, and a major chunk of the numbers (from NeoGaf) are missing. Whether it would have mattered in terms of placement on the list is conjecture, but the fact is, those numbers aren't a true indiciation of sales.

[ronniecross2]

The point is that digital sales and PC  sales aren't included in the numbers. Meaning some games, like Smash Bros, released Nov 3 had both its systems accounted for, as well as a 15 day head start in terms of sales, while DAI had 12 days of sales, and a major chunk of the numbers (from NeoGaf) are missing. Whether it would have mattered in terms of placement on the list is conjecture, but the fact is, those numbers aren't a true indiciation of sales.

 

Also, just because a two games are available both physically and digitally, doesn't mean the ratio is going to be the same. i.e. a game on the list could have sold more physical copies than digital copies, while DAI could have sold more digital copies than physical copies, meaning the numbers would undoubtedly change if digital sales were thrown into the mix. 

[Jaron Oberyn]

No idea where you got those numbers from @OP, but if they are from VGChartz, you should know that their numbers are completely unreliable. Don't believe any number they post on their site, they are extremely inaccurate.

 

Well, DA:I is not the only game that is sold digitally... So your point is?

 

DA:I is NOT Game of the year. It won a single GOTY award and that is it. Here is a summary of GOTY awards awarded by various publications and organizations. As you can see, there are tons of GOTY awards.

 

His point is that most of these sites are looking at physical copies on consoles, when a significant portion of the sales come from PC, physical as well as digital. I don't see why people are making such a big deal out of this, as if he would lie. Get over your self entitled attitude that's leading you to believe they somehow owe you sales figures when you demand it. 

 

DAI has also won several GOTY awards, not sure why you're going on a rant about that but whatever. It seems it's still cool to hate the DA franchise around here. 

[ronniecross2]

I don't see why people are making such a big deal out of this, as if he would lie. Get over your self entitled attitude...

 

I was thinking it, you said it. *here, here* 

[Maverick827]

Wouldn't you rather just not play the sequel if you'd decided it wasn't for you, rather than wish upon the cancellation of the series against the desires of those who actually enjoy the franchise, opposed to just one game within the franchise?

The hope when one is disgruntled with a game is that it does poorly not out of spite, but because that is the only way the people who make the decisions listen. It's the only way the game can ever "get back" to how the disgruntled person enjoys it.

It's like when your favorite TV show adds a Cousin Oliver to the cast. You hate Cousin Oliver, but he's a huge ratings hit, and you know that you're going to be stuck with him for as long as the show exists. The more popular the character becomes, the more lines and screen time he'll get, and soon you probably won't even like the show anymore.

[dlux]

The point is that digital sales and PC  sales aren't included in the numbers. Meaning some games, like Smash Bros, released Nov 3 had both its systems accounted for, as well as a 15 day head start in terms of sales, while DAI had 12 days of sales, and a major chunk of the numbers (from NeoGaf) are missing. Whether it would have mattered in terms of placement on the list is conjecture, but the fact is, those numbers aren't a true indiciation of sales.

All of the games on that list are also sold digitally, except for the three Nintendo titles I believe. PC sales are also in.

The point still stands, even if the numbers are probably BS from VGChartz.
 

It seems it's still cool to hate the DA franchise around here.

Well, the DA franchise has been mutilated IMO, I never asked for a "Dragon Age: Skyrim" single player MMO. I doubt many people would have a reason to complain if EA would have just made a DA:O 2 and DA:O 3.

In before "DA:O sucks, I love prefer button mashing combat"
 

From your own link:
Edge
The Game Awards
Good Game

I stand corrected. DA:I now has a grand total of 3 GOTY awards. Hopefully the game gets another 40. ^^

[ronniecross2]

I stand corrected. DA:I now has a grand total of 3 GOTY awards. Hopefully the game gets another 40.

 

 

As you inaccurately quoted only 1/3rd of my post, I can come to no other conclusion than you're actually trying to generate negativity - negativity that doesn't exist. I detect a motive, and thus I'm backing out of this one :-)

[dlux]

His point is that most of these sites are looking at physical copies on consoles, when a significant portion of the sales come from PC, physical as well as digital. I don't see why people are making such a big deal out of this, as if he would lie.

PC Numbers are mentioned. It says very clearly PC. e.g. 1. Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare (360, Xbox One, PS4, PS3, PC)
 
All of the games on that list are also sold digitally, except for the three Nintendo titles I believe. The point still stands, saying that a game is not on that list because a substantial amount of sales are digital is completely irrelevant.
 

Get over your self entitled attitude that's leading you to believe they somehow owe you sales figures when you demand it.

DAI has also won several GOTY awards, not sure why you're going on a rant about that but whatever. It seems it's still cool to hate the DA franchise around here.

 You should get over your fanboying and also check your reading comprehension skills.

 

DA:I has won 3/50 GOTY awards. Wow. Impressive.

[ronniecross2]

the DA...I...would have...made...

...I love... 
...DA:I now.

 

Context :-)

[dlux]

As you inaccurately quoted only 1/3rd of my post, I can come to no other conclusion than you're actually trying to generate negativity - negativity that doesn't exist. I detect a motive, and thus I'm backing out of this one :-)

No, you are fanboying and trying to discredit me.

 

Fine, then DA:I got 5/50 possible GOTY awards. Better?

[NextGenCowboy]

PC numbers weren't mentioned in the NeoGaf post, which most likely means they haven't been calculated by NDP.

 

Considering that's what those numbers are based on, then it shouldn't come as a suprise that it's not a full and detailed list. Listing available platform does not mean listing the numbers, PC games are almost always the last reported. That's shifted to digital sales of consoles in recent years, and sometimes those numbers are never even reported. 

 

We'll get a much clearer picture in a couple of months. Just once more though, NeoGaf.

[_Motoki_]

re: Digital

 

I don't think digital sales via console are a significant amount at this point. In most cases they are for the PC, but Steam is the place to sell digitally for the PC and this is the first Dragon Age game that was not available for sale there on launch (DA2 was but was later pulled due to disagreements over DLC and whether or not the digital store should get a cut).

 

Pretty much if you want a PC game to sell well these days you have to be on the front page of Steam on launch, but EA has Origin and is trying to make PC gamers buy direct from them instead. However Origin doesn't get a traffic that Steam does and whether it's justified or not a lot of PC gamers are resistant to Origin. Ubisoft has taken a hybrid approach of selling their games on Steam but still requiring their UPlay client, however EA is taking the all or nothing approach with Origin on the PC the last couple of years with their big titles.

 

Boxed retail for the PC, with a few exceptions (like Blizzard), isn't really as popular anymore. I think on the PC side it would have helped if EA had just got over their feud with Valve and put the game on Steam. I actually know people who own DAO on Steam and wanted to buy Inquisition there too but haven't since they can't. It may seem silly to some but the reality is that some people have their PC collections there already and would rather keep everything in one place than having separate clients all over the place for various games.

[KneeTheCap]

*Snip*

 

DA:I is NOT Game of the year. It won a single GOTY award and that is it.

*Snip*

 

Winning the game of the year award somehow makes the game not game of the year?