Exactly, would you rather take 70% of 5m or 100% of 500k?
And no reason to take it off Origin store, just give us a choice as to where we buy it from. Alternately you could have purchased a packaged copy from Amazon or any retailer, in which case they are giving up even more margin.
I'm not sure it's that simple. My understanding was that Steam wanted a cut from high-margin DLC sales, etc.
I'm not sure it's that simple. My understanding was that Steam wanted a cut from high-margin DLC sales, etc.
Yes, certainly higher margins on the DLC sales through Origin; however, good luck selling DLC to the subset of people who have not purchased the base game.
And then you have folks like me who are still waiting four years later for a simple way to buy Mark of the Assassin and Legacy DLC using regular money without Bioware points. For some reason, EA made it a bit complicated for PC users to purchase Bioware DLC, as they are not even offered for sale on the Origin store.
However, I'm pretty sure this game would have sold a lot more copies if it was on Steam. With an installed base well over 100 million active Steam users, it dwarfs the installed base of PS4 and Xbox One owners combined. Even many small indie games have sold a few million copies.
And then you have folks like me who are still waiting four years later for a simple way to buy Mark of the Assassin and Legacy DLC using regular money without Bioware points. For some reason, EA made it a bit complicated for PC users to purchase Bioware DLC, as they are not even offered for sale on the Origin store.
EA made it a bit complicated for PC users to purchase Bioware DLC, as they are not even offered for sale on the Origin store.
Yes, they are.
So whats so complicated about buying BioWare points? an yeah as above said there have been sales
So whats so complicated about buying BioWare points? an yeah as above said there have been sales
Simple...Because you have to send $20 to buy something that's $15.
So whats so complicated about buying BioWare points? an yeah as above said there have been sales
For games on Steam, you click on the game, see what DLC is available, how much it costs (in dollars), add to your cart and check out. When I tried to buy DLC for DA2 and ME3 on Origin, it was sending me to a different website to buy Bioware points or Xbox points or whatever.
I don't want to end up wasting money on extra points, and the DLC price never goes down. I'm not inclined to spend $40-50 on DLC for games that are 4 or 5 years old. During Steam sales I can often pick up DLC for older AAA games around $1.99 or so, or GOTY version including all DLC for $5 - 10.
What this has to do with DAI is unclear, though.
Yes, getting off topic here, as I believe an announcement was made that the DA:I DLC will be sold for real dollars on the Origin store.
I don't want to end up wasting money on extra points, and the DLC price never goes down. I'm not inclined to spend $40-50 on DLC for games that are 4 or 5 years old. During Steam sales I can often pick up DLC for older AAA games around $1.99 or so, or GOTY version including all DLC for $5 - 10.
And that's why EA doesn't want to give them a cut. Right or wrong, that's their attitude. In addition, they're using their games as loss-leaders (in essence) for the origin platform. The more games they can stuff on it, the more they can hope to compete with Steam, which remember was intrusive garbage software when it was first forced onto gamers with CS 1.6 (as I recall).
I can see a case against Bio points. You're making an interest-free loan to EA until you use all the points, and it's very difficult to actually use all your points since the sale denominations don't match the DLC prices.
What this has to do with DAI is unclear, though.
Nothing since they've dropped BioWare points for this game and future ones.
I don't want to end up wasting money on extra points, and the DLC price never goes down. I'm not inclined to spend $40-50 on DLC for games that are 4 or 5 years old. During Steam sales I can often pick up DLC for older AAA games around $1.99 or so, or GOTY version including all DLC for $5 - 10.
Isn't this a problem with EA rather than Origin? Unless the contract with Valve is really weird, Valve couldn't drop the sale price of a DLC by more than their split. You wouldn't see a 75% sale unless EA wanted one, and if they wanted do do that they could do it on Origin too.
It's not really even a problem from EA's point of view, other than the fact that they might see higher total revenue from DLC sales if they lowered the prices.
And if they ever decide to go back to the Steam store, certainly they would set their own pricing. I was only responding to the question about Bioware points.
I imagine I'm not the only one who might be inclined to buy DA2 or ME3 ultimate edition with all the DLC, or even just the DLC, if it were offered at a more attractive price point.
...Steam, which remember was intrusive garbage software when it was first forced onto gamers with CS 1.6 (as I recall).
I definitely remember Steam being terrible and everyone being very resistant to it when it first came out.
The difference is who was offering the service/software though. At that time, Valve was well liked (and continues to be liked to this day) by just about everyone who had played Half-Life, and was already nurturing the reputation of being very community friendly. Users and critics alike viewed Valve as a GOOD company.
On the flip side, EA has had a long track record of being a terrible company, that doesn't care about their users more than their bottom dollar (hence the miriad of botched launches over the last few years, most of which have been attributed to them rushing the studios under them), with terrible customer service. Nobody liked EA at all by the time they decided to start forcing users to install their Steam rip-off.
So while Steam may have been crappy at the beginning, it was for completely different reasons than why EA's Origin is crappy.
Meaning that they're not on the store without using Bio points for them, right?
It's ea points now. But you can pay regular money for it on Amozon.
Hi guys - obviously it's a drag not to see DAI on that top 10 list for November. I can't really give any figures of course...However, from what I know about the sales numbers (a) DAI is doing great and well ahead of it's predecessors, and a significant percentage of sales of DAI are digital and not tracked by NPD. If anything, I'm more worried about the weird signals this chart sends to the market about DAI, as opposed to the reality of our unit sales
You should convince EA/Bioware to release the sales chart.
Dragon Age Inquisition
* .. tried to copy Skyrim, which leads me to believe EA/Bioware is trying to sell up to 20 million copies of DAI by 2018.
* ... development time was roughly three and a half years?
* ... caters to a select group of individuals based upon their sexual preference instead of catering to everyone.
* ... is not moddable.
* ... has controversial content that may hinder parents from letting their kids play the game
* fake open world
* great story
Skyrim
* ... has sold 20 million copies since it's release in 2011.
* ... was in development for four years?
* ... was designed to cater to ALL sexualities.
* ... is moddable, I know a lot of people who own skyrim on the console AND THE PC.
* ... does not have the same controversial in your face content that Inquisition has *hint hint*.
* real open world
* sub par story
I think this is first bioware game that has sold poorly not even in top 10 of month it launched in...
You absolutely do not know what you are talking about, son.
DAI had the most successful launch of any Bioware game EVER!
You clearly weren't around when DA2 launched...
You should convince EA/Bioware to release the sales chart.
Dragon Age Inquisition
* .. tried to copy Skyrim, which leads me to believe EA/Bioware is trying to sell up to 20 million copies of DAI by 2018.
* ... development time was roughly three and a half years?
* ... caters to a select group of individuals based upon their sexual preference instead of catering to everyone.
* ... is not moddable.
* ... has controversial content that may hinder parents from letting their kids play the game
* fake open world
* great story
Skyrim
* ... has sold 20 million copies since it's release in 2011.
* ... was in development for four years?
* ... was designed to cater to ALL sexualities.
* ... is moddable, I know a lot of people who own skyrim on the console AND THE PC.
* ... does not have the same controversial in your face content that Inquisition has *hint hint*.
* real open world
* sub par story
I'm not touching the rest of this, but ....
* ... has controversial content that may hinder parents from letting their kids play the game
Well, good. It's rated M, and obviously unsuitable for children. No kids should be playing it.
I definitely remember Steam being terrible and everyone being very resistant to it when it first came out.
The difference is who was offering the service/software though. At that time, Valve was well liked (and continues to be liked to this day) by just about everyone who had played Half-Life, and was already nurturing the reputation of being very community friendly. Users and critics alike viewed Valve as a GOOD company.
On the flip side, EA has had a long track record of being a terrible company, that doesn't care about their users more than their bottom dollar (hence the miriad of botched launches over the last few years, most of which have been attributed to them rushing the studios under them), with terrible customer service. Nobody liked EA at all by the time they decided to start forcing users to install their Steam rip-off.
So while Steam may have been crappy at the beginning, it was for completely different reasons than why EA's Origin is crappy.
Perception is a fickle thing, considering all EA is doing in the end is emulating Valve in terms of its service model. People just don't like them because of Westwood Studios, or the EA Spouse, or the Mass Effect 3 ending, or little, insignificant things because they have a perception of another company as being trustworthy to a fault.
Which is ironic, considering Valve has done some moves that have pissed off their own fanbase in the process. Abandoning the Episodic Model to the Gaming service model for one has made Half Life 2 end on a cliffhanger for nearly ten years now is something folks tend to forget, even though it has it's own punchline now as being Valve Time.
There is also internal issues with their management structure. I remember an interview of an ex-employee who was basically discussing the corporate culture of Valve as being very high school, which is ironic considering they tout their peer review structure all the time. So it's not all sunshine and rainbows there either, like all companies there is a share of internal problems, be it overwork or lack of actual direction or development, which is normal for bigger companies anyway.
I guess the fact that Valve has that reputation, and drive, to be community friendly automatically makes them win in the end. Honestly...the product in the end should matter a lot more than the community interaction. To say the developers at Valve care about their customers unlike say CD Projekt Red or BioWare or Bungie or anything like that seems like a gross quantification to justify the reputation of a developer. EA the publisher side is concerned about making money, but they can't make money unless they actually do give a damn about their fanbase too.
Not to mention EA at least delivers games. In the past ten years, Valve has released nine games, including one compilation game (Orange Box) one episodic game, two Left 4 Dead's, and DOTA 2. Some of those games are real good, but honestly, outside of DOTA 2 and Portal 2, everything falls into the category of deathmatch shooter, team shooter, or just plain shooter. I sometimes get fustrated by the lack of variety that Valve puts out.
Of course EA has it's own problems, since the partners program shut down it's been a stream of sequel IPs, although there is new stuff on the horizon at least. EA also does offer more variety as a company, which is good for business and the tastes of gamers out there; we should be glad a major developer has an RPG/Strategy wing, no other major developer does last I checked outside of Bethesda.
I'm not touching the rest of this, but ....
Well, good. It's rated M, and obviously unsuitable for children. No kids should be playing it.
All that rating is relative and I would not let my kids play DAI but not for the sexual content. The psychopatic promotion and nihilation of empathy wrapt up in Sera is the reason.
I'm not touching the rest of this, but ....
Well, good. It's rated M, and obviously unsuitable for children. No kids should be playing it.
In fact it should have more mature content with that rating.
Dragon Age Inquisition
* ... caters to a select group of individuals based upon their sexual preference instead of catering to everyone.
* ... has controversial content that may hinder parents from letting their kids play the game
Like others have said... huh?
The first point on preference is to cater for everyone, you must have mixed up that line with Skyrim.
The game is rated mature (I happen to believe it's fine for some PG-13 individuals but that's my own family upbringing).
I'm not touching the rest of this, but ....
Well, good. It's rated M, and obviously unsuitable for children. No kids should be playing it.
And to my knowledge, there's no "controversial content" that wasn't already in the first two games. Unless he's talking about the Qunari transsexual?
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