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[Jaron Oberyn]

PC Numbers are mentioned. It says very clearly PC. e.g. 1. Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare (360, Xbox One, PS4, PS3, PC)
 
All of the games on that list are also sold digitally, except for the three Nintendo titles I believe. The point still stands, saying that a game is not on that list because a substantial amount of sales are digital is completely irrelevant.
 

 You should get over your fanboying and also check your reading comprehension skills.

 

DA:I has won 3/50 GOTY awards. Wow. Impressive.

 

Yes, PC numbers are mentioned for those games. The sites that have reported their estimated DAI sales do not include PC or Digital Download sales. Let that sink in for a moment. 

 

Now let me repeat that statement using different words and bolded text: We do not know the total amount of DAI copies sold. 

 

Also, DAI won the perhaps the most prestigious and influential of them all, the VGAs. Keep riding the hate train though. You're going places. 

[dlux]

Winning the game of the year award somehow makes the game not game of the year?

Winning a GOTY award means that the game won one of many possible GOTY awards.

[Alan Drifter13]

I'm copying here what I just added to a related post:

 

In the video-games category of Amazon UK right now it's:

 

7th in PS4

9th in XBone (though the 2nd is a controller, so 8th among games)

4th in PC (but 3rd is also a controller, so 3rd among games)

 

Much worse for XB360 and PS3, but it makes sense because the game isn't optimized for those consoles.

 

In the VG category of Amazon US it's:

 

4th in PS4 (3rd is a card, so 3rd among games)

10th in XBone (console and controller in the top-10, so DA:I is 8th among games)

10th in PC (2nd among games, Sims4 is the only other game in the top-10 of the category)

 

 

It looks like it's only being clearly outsold by Sims4 in PC and FarCry4, FIFA15, Halo (MC collection) or GTAV in next gen consoles. These are all big titles from some of the best selling franchises ever, and all of them had a more succesful predecessor than Dragon Age had. So all in all it looks like the numbers are good (AMZ is the best-selling online platform, so I take it as a good indicator of the overall market).

[ronniecross2]

Winning a GOTY award means that the game won one of many possible GOTY awards.

 

Now now, we've already had this discussion ;-)

[NextGenCowboy]

re: Digital

 

I don't think digital sales via console are a significant amount at this point. In most cases they are for the PC, but Steam is the place to sell digitally for the PC and this is the first Dragon Age game that was not available for sale there on launch (DA2 was but was later pulled due to disagreements over DLC and whether or not the digital store should get a cut).

 for various games.

 

I believe you're underestimating the number of console users that buy digitil. This is especially true of the PS3 version, where many, like myself, assumed it would be the most stable version of the game released (on that platform). There's really no way to know for certain at the moment of course.
 

The ease of purchasing digitally is also alluring to many.

[Jaron Oberyn]

If only you could use all the energy you pour towards negativity for good.

[Adeph]

Honestly, I'd very surprised if any fantasy RPG that isn't Elder Scrolls out sold the games on that list. I have no interest in many of them and I supect most on this board share that view but that doesn't mean those aren't huge games.

 

You have 3 enormous Nintendo franchises that always sell close to 10 million copies if not more, Call of Duty is HUGE, any GTA will sell by the truck load, Halo is a system seller, Far Cry is a very respectable series plus it's a shooter which people seem to love and of course the big yearly sports titles will sell well.

[frankf43]

Winning a GOTY award means that the game won one of many possible GOTY awards.

But it hasn't won "a" GOTY it has won several GOTY's as in plural. 

[dlux]

Yes, PC numbers are mentioned for those games. The sites that have reported their estimated DAI sales do not include PC or Digital Download sales. Let that sink in for a moment.

Which sites?

Non-digital PC and console sales are included in the list that the OP posted and "GOTY OMGH best button masher ever!" DA:I isn't in it.
 

Now let me repeat that statement using different words and bolded text: We do not know the total amount of DAI copies sold.

No, we don't. Because only NPD (only console non-digital) and EA's numbers are accurate. The numbers from VGChartz etc. are BS.

Also, DAI won the perhaps the most prestigious and influential of them all, the VGAs. Keep riding the hate train though. You're going places.

A brand new award that has existed since 2014 is very influentual? Says who? You?

[Sanunes]

I find these NDP numbers are never going to be close to accurate and I can see it becoming less so now.  There are many factors that could be keeping the numbers for Inquisition low.

 

1) Digital Sales: At least in North America I know more and more people moving to digital purchases, in my case its because if I want a PC physical copy I have to buy it through Amazon.

 

2) EA Access: This ties in with #1, since Inquisition is the first title to be shipped with Access tie-ins I could see there being a lot of XB1 sales that aren't there because people get a discount on the game and also got to start playing it early.

 

3) Bundles: A lot of those games in that list are also part of console bundles which also get included in those numbers, its part of the reason why Super Mario Bros has 40 million copies sold.

 

4) Its VGChartz.  I know I use them for some of my comparisons, but you can only take their numbers as speculation.

[FKA_Servo]

Isn't it tiring to park your ass on the forum and root for the damn game to fail?

 

If you hate it so much, leave.

[Rannik]

vgchartz is fantasy.

 

So is that NPD thing, any sketchy figure that does not even include digital sales is irrelevant for obvious reasons.

 

We can't know how much a game sells unless the publisher tell us, I don't understand what people is waiting for to just deal with it.

[Grieving Natashina]

I'm convinced now that some folks just want to be angry, and won't be happy unless others are as angry as they are.  When folks refuse to get upset, they then become angry about people not being angry.   This cycle of aggression and determination to make sure others are unhappy is something I'll never understand.  

[ronniecross2]

Isn't it tiring to park your ass on the forum and root for the damn game to fail?

 

If you hate it so much, leave.

 

Such a simple concept in theory. In practice, apparently not...

[X Equestris]

A brand new award that has existed since 2014 is very influentual? Says who? You?

It's what was Spike's VGAs. It is independent now, but it does have some history.

[Grieving Natashina]

Isn't it tiring to park your ass on the forum and root for the damn game to fail?

 

If you hate it so much, leave.

The last time a company pissed me off that badly with a game, I just left.  Left their forums, left their fans and devs alone and decided not to pay for their content anymore.  Simple enough.  I respected my fellow gamers that enjoyed the game enough to leave them alone, as well as their developers.  The game wasn't for me personally, but I don't waste time telling folks to start hating what I hate.

 

Life's too damned short to spend so much time on something you despise.

[Spankatola]

I'm not sure why there's even a debate anymore. Literally the one guy in this thread who'd actually know is the one guy who's not posting anonymously, and said the game is doing "great."

 

So, worries abated, right?

[Jaron Oberyn]

Which sites?

Non-digital PC and console sales are included in the list that the OP posted and "GOTY OMGH best button masher ever!" DA:I isn't in it.
 
No, we don't. Because only NPD (only console non-digital) and EA's numbers are accurate. The numbers from VGChartz etc. are BS.

A brand new award that has existed since 2014 is very influentual? Says who? You?

I'm beginning to think you're trolling at this point. We do not know how many PC or digital sales DAI has accumulated. The list in the OP can factor in PC sales all they want, but unless they have the PC and digital sales of DAI they cannot include it in that list. Why you struggle to realize that simple fact is beyond me. 

 

The VGAs a brand new award? You just lost all credibility. Try since 2003.

 

 

 

I'm not sure why there's even a debate anymore. Literally the one guy in this thread who'd actually know is the one guy who's not posting anonymously, and said the game is doing "great."

 

So, worries abated, right?

You must be new to the BSN. Even though Mr. Lee has answered the question, he must be wrong since the "fans' know better than the developers around here. 

 

[Grieving Natashina]

I think it's silly to really debate about whether or not this game has done well at this point.  All of the numbers aren't even in yet, so it's way too early to tell.  Plus, with digital sales not currently being accounted for, any current numbers will be based on only part of the sales market.  It's really easy to assume that the game is doing well or poorly based on that, and either way could be wrong.

 

You know, I think I'll wait until after the New Year to really judge about how well the game is doing in sales.  Rather than judging less than a month after release with incomplete sales figures.   

[Jaulen]

Yeah....I think I'll take what the Bioware guy says (outselling predecessors)......than what some sales metric accumulator says, that doesn't track digitial sales.

[dlux]

It's what was Spike's VGAs. It is independent now, but it does have some history.

Same concept, same producer, but that is it.

[rda]

I'm glad the game is selling well. All I want for Christmas is a confirmed DLC/expansion pack on the horizon. :-)

[ronniecross2]

The last time a company pissed me off that badly with a game, I just left.  Left their forums, left their fans and devs alone and decided not to pay for their content anymore.  Simple enough.  I respected my fellow gamers that enjoyed the game enough to leave them alone, as well as their developers.  The game wasn't for me personally, but I don't waste time telling folks to start hating what I hate.

 

Life's too damned short to spend so much time on something you despise.

 

 

This reminds me of a time when I got quite agitated by a dev's decision (re: exclusivity). I sent a single disgruntled tweet about how I won't be buying their products anymore, then moved on. The most ironic thing, is that the game I have lined up to play after DAI is the latest game in the said franchise. Minimal damage done, and eventually I got over it. The end :-)

[Adeph]

This board is really strange as well, nearly every forum I visit loves the game despite some problems but here you would swear Bioware  personally killed people's first born children going by the reactions.

[Rannik]

Do people with unlimited connections still buy games on boxes?

 

Sounds like going back to the 90's - early 00's... good times tho