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[shurryy]

Everyone in Kirkwall is inept and Hawke has no obligation to fix their problems. That place has templars, city guards etc etc and all of them suck at their job.

If anything, they should be grateful they have Hawke, else Kirkwall would've hit sea bottom by the first year.

 

Everyone in Thedas is inept though... 

Seriously, you do everyones job for them, not even professional hunters can hunt the ram that's just sitting on the wall over 10 feet away, or the healers who can't stretch 2 feet to grab that fresh piece of Elfroot. Soldiers can't win a fight if you're not there, and your spies who walk around carrying chests randomly in the wild can't find it in them to collect resources for you in the process. 

 

I just... Everyone is useless, I thought we hired competent people.  

[LOLandStuff]

In short, people are lazy bums taking advantage of you.

[Jaulen]

Everyone in Thedas is inept though... 

Seriously, you do everyones job for them, not even professional hunters can hunt the ram that's just sitting on the wall over 10 feet away, or the healers who can't stretch 2 feet to grab that fresh piece of Elfroot. Soldiers can't win a fight if you're not there, and your spies who walk around carrying chests randomly in the wild can't find it in them to collect resources for you in the process. 

 

I just... Everyone is useless, I thought we hired competent people.

 

They don't go out 'cause it's too dangerous. Warring mages/templars and bandits.

 

Although for reactivity:

1) If you stabilized the area PRIOR to talking to the healer/hunter....the quest shouldn't come up as an option at all. Never able to recruit the healer as an agent.

2) If you get the quest prior to stablizing it, but don't complete it prior to stabiliztion.....both of them should tell you 'too late' giving you a hit to Inquisition influence in teh case of the hunter, and not able to recruit the healer.

3) Get quest prior to stabilization and finish it prior to stabiliztaion works as currently is.

 

Edit to add: above list is what SHOULD be in the game so that players see a reaction to what/how they do things. Not that it is in the game that way.

[LobselVith8]

Merrill still has the Eluvian mirror and summon a demon

Merrill didn't summon Audacity; the spirit was summoned and bound over a millennia ago.

What does Cassandra expect to get out of Hawke once she finds him? Thinking back, my Hawke didn't accomplish anything.

It seemed like a desperate move, since the Champion is viewed as a hero by either the mages or the templars.

[TK514]

It was at night, and since for some odd reason the streets are filled with bandits as soon as the sun falls I doubt anyone was going there for midnight prayers. Regardless, it's like bombing a KKK rally. Sure not all of them have lynched people, but they're still at the rally. For being an apostate and harboring Justice Anders would have been executed if he had ever been caught by the chantry or templars at any point. Hawke only narrowly avoids imprisonment herself, and I'm sure a failed escape attempt would have resulted in tranquility or death. As I said before the Gallows and it's templars are no friends to the mages, and neither is Kirkwall's chantry.

 

It's naive to expect to have rebellion without blood. There was no hope for mages in Kirkwall something had to change, and that change would never come from the templars or the chantry.

 

It's like no one ever listens to the resources we've been given by BioWare.  Varric says outright that hundreds died in the bombing of the Chantry.  But I'm sure you'll tell us that all those people were evil rapists and murderers.

[Mushashi7]

I'm certain we will have a new protagonist. Bioware has said time and time again they will not use the same protagonist in more than one story, there will always be a new one. But there is the possibility we will be seeing Hawke north, or at the very least hear about him up there. The Inquisitor and Warden on the other hand? Not very likely as they're going to be doing their thing in the south. 

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So, in due time Bioware would be able to build an army of pure heroes?

No, seriously, the perspective is not so bad, is it?

In Dragon Age: Inquisition we have two heroes in the same story. It injected a little punch to the story. Especially with the option to re-create your own hero via the Character Creation.

And... we have the Dragon Age Keep. I sense a something. Don't you?

[Chernaya]

Was Hawke even supposed to be a hero? I found it refreshing we got to play as an actual flawed character who made some big mistakes because they couldn't magically perfectly handle everything that was thrown at them.

[Hornless Qunari/Human DPS]

Hawke is a anti-hero he/she never wanted to become one.

[Harbinger1975]

Wait wait wait. Half the stuff you said is determinant. You can make Merril destroy the Eluvian if your her rival. Hawke does stop the qunari invasion, everyone makes a big point about that, that's why she is the Champion of Kirkwall and so on and so forth. Personally I LOVE Hawke. I didn't as much before, but now that I see her in Inquisition I admire her. (This is coming from someone who is a non-mage Hawke) Hawke is an ordinary person. They have no tainted powers, and no anchor of Andraste or whatever. They never aspired to greatness, they were just an average joe trying to escape the blight. The world time and time again threw its dirty laundry at Hawke and despite her own agenda she always got caught up in the madness. It was never her job to do anything, yet she was always at the center of events, when a hero was needed. I played a sarcastic Hawke so the severity of events in DA:II never hit me, then came Inquisition. I felt so much pity for Hawke. Her home was destroyed, her family torn apart, and time and time again she had to face the burden of problems caused by other people. Even when she succeeds (In my case she became vicountress) the Templars go crazy and turn on her. She's thus forced into hiding. No matter what, she can never catch a break, and so many people want her dead simply for trying to live her life. When Varric said "You know what? If Hawke had been at the conclave, she'd be dead to. You people have done enough to her," it really hit home how crap her life has been ever since stepping into Kirkwall. When Hawke even says she doesn't go by the title of Champion much anymore shows, that she herself realizes how inept she is at making things better. No matter what, some new problem pops up. It makes me feel sorry for her. I treat her like Cole whenever I'm talking to her, I just wanna give her a hug and tell her everything will be ok. Also regarding Corypheus its the Warden's fault. They forced Hawke's father Malcolm to seal Corypheus. If the Warden's had never done this Corypheus would still be running about, and Hawke would've never been needed to release him. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Yet another instance of Hawke having to bear the burden of things that she was never supposed to be involved in. Hawke is one of my fav protagonists from the series, simply because how tragic her life is, and despite it all she still fights to make things better even when everyone is against her.

 

You know, it's funny.  I actually had a conversation with my girlfriend about this for Guild Wars 2 and reading this only helps reinforce what I said to her.

 

How many of you have seen the movie Swordfish?  Remember that part in the beginning of the movie where John Travolta had said:  "But why can't the bad guys win?"  And the guy playing the FBI agent said:  "It's a moral dilemma.  The bad guy can't win."

 

I think...I think, and I don't speak for everyone, or even anyone but me, people are just tired of always being the Hero.  Yes, it's fun the first few times.  But then it gets monotonous.  Why did everyone love Dragon Age Origins?  Because of the story, the depth?  I would like to think so.  But I think it's more.  Thedas was thrown into absolute chaos.  Loghaine had gone mad (with power or otherwise).  The Blight was in full effect.  Things went to hell in a handbasket and two of the only Grey Wardens left had to try to fix things?  That's a tall order.  And the best part about it...the hero could die.  The ending wasn't a happy one.  Or, at least you could go that direction.  A bittersweet ending if you wanted.  But you had to fight every step of the way to get to that point.  Love.  Love lost.  Some nice tragic stories.

 

In Dragon Age 2, I personally loved it.  Hawke was not a hero.  But a pure anti-hero.  Things went terribly wrong and it didn't matter how much they tried to make it right, there was just no way to make that happen.  Hawke was just trying to survive in the City of Chains.  And even that was a fight for survival.  And I want to think that in DA2, the bad guy DID win.  But I'll use that in a very generic sense.  The bad guy wasn't a person.  A person WAS the catalyst.  But the bad guy in this case?  Was the prejudice between the Mages and Templars.  It didn't matter which side Hawke chose.  Hawke lost.  Did she survive?  Yes, barely.  But there was no victory.  There was an escape though.  Hawke could live to fight another day.  But there was no victory to be had.

 

And now in DA Inquisition.  I remember what the advertisements said.  "Lead them or fall."  Now i haven't reached the end yet.  I'm taking in every part of the game.  But still, from what I have seen, the game isn't all sugar and rainbows.  This franchise, in my personal opinion, yours may vary, has captured the best part of not conforming to that moral dilemma of the bad guy always losing.  I love that fact that there is a feeling of possible failure.  And a big failure at that.  I'm not naive enough to believe that the hero doesn't win out in the end, but it's nice to see that doesn't feel like the case to me right now.  I loved the fact that Corypheus kicked the crap out of the Inquisitor.  And the Inquisitor nearly died from freezing to death.  Yes yes, I know.  But daaaayuuuum. The feeling of:   "Aw crap.  That boy just nearly whooped my butt!" was a great feeling.

 

I felt sympathy for the Hero of Fereldan.

 

I felt pity for Hawke.  Like someone else said, I wanted to give Hawke a massive hug and tell her everything would be alright.

 

I feel a  hidden strength from the Inquisitor.  But I like that they have to fight their way to it.  Nothing comes easy.

 

This is all my personal opinion.  Your milage may vary.