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Why was it impossible to save Leandra?


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Ah, thanks for refreshing my memory ... the entire "Walking Bomb" line just felt clunky to me so I hardly ever use them.

There's some fun to be had with the Virulent version. Cast it, and then either focus fire or just shatter the bastard, then focus fire on the lowest HP thing that got infected...



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Natureguy85

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Yes, but while we would associate those things with Necromancy, being genre savvy, the game didn't previously identify them as such until calling a character a Necromancer and then making it a specialization in Inquisition. In DA2, it was blood magic.



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She does not summon demons, she uses blood magic to fuel common spells.

She uses use blood magic, while she is helping some mages to escape, while raiding a chateau, while helping Isabela to get new ship, ... basically while taking part in all the illegal activities Hawke conducts.

story/gameplay segregation

 

She doesn't have to use blood magic while helping Hawke, in a lot of my playthroughs she does just fine without it.

 

Granted she does use blood magic, story-wise, to get through the barrier on Sundermount, you can assume she always uses it in battle if you want. 

 

Still not on anything like the level of a serial killer. 

 

Story failed to sell me on the 'magic made him a killer' bit anyway.  Blood mage or no - Quentin was insane, and no more dangerous, ultimately, then the insane non-mage who slaughtered all those elven children.


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Story failed to sell me on the 'magic made him a killer' bit anyway.  Blood mage or no - Quentin was insane, and no more dangerous, ultimately, then the insane non-mage who slaughtered all those elven children.

Being a mage made him harder to kill, though. He uses demons to cover an escape once, doesn't he? Quentin doesn't die as a direct result of that encounter because he has plot-armor, but if he couldn't have done that I think he'd have needed a plot-tank in order to avoid being chased down and killed on the spot. Blood magic doesn't make him more malevolent than the Magistrate's schizophrenic son, but it certainly makes him more dangerous than anyone who needs to rely on a mere knife.



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I'm really curious about it since it always bothered me. Making the player (Hawke) go through so much ****, and even get his mother killed (which I must say in the most gruesome way possible) with no option to save her at all. I thought I played a game which gave me choices not choices that were forced upon me. I tried to locate a mod everywhere that prevents this quest but no mod exists.

 

Please explain this farce to me.

 

Thanks.

 

Because Hawke isn't following the Hero's Journey Archetype. (S)He's following the Heroine's Journey Archetype. 



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While I like a little tragedy and the protagonist losing every now and then, I wasn't a fan of how the serial killer quest chain ended. For a scripted death it just takes way too long to play out. If you're going to railroad the player into a single outcome, don't drag it out over multiple quests. It would be better to have Leandra's scripted death occur early in the chain as extra motivation for Hawke to stop the serial killer, than to have Hawke do multiple quests aimed at stopping the killer only to fail in saving his own mother. Also the gruesome horror movie death undercut any emotional impact it may have otherwise had.


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DA2 was meant to be realistic? I'm sorry but I didn't spend my money on a game that doesn't let me do **** regarding my choices. If it's supposed to be an RPG and I want to save my mother, i'd damn well get this option and not get a "it's meant to be realistic" excuse. With the Couslands I forgave them cause it was necessary for the origins and it established the Warden's story, here it's just to add salt into Hawke's wounds with forced drama that could have easily been avoided if the characters were not stupid. Even more infusing is the part where the developers admitted that there had been options to save her or sustain the killer's magic but they scrapped it, even more pointing that this game was rushed as ****. 



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Had Necromancy been Introduced into DA at that point? I thought the game made it clear it was blood magic.

Into the franchise? Not much. In that storyline? Yes. In fact, Gascard du Puy mentions it specifically. He specifically asks Quentin if he'd teach him the secrets of Necromancy. With this in mind... No. The game did not make it clear that it was Blood Magic and again, being a Necromancer doesn't mean you're a Blood Mage.



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I just played this scene. Damn! That was harsh. And Gamlen was his usual crappy self afterwards.

Can't say as I understood it exactly. What did that mage do, attach Hawke's mother's head to a another body?

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What did that mage do, attach Hawke's mother's head to a another body?

Another body that he'd stitched together over the years by finding women with one or more body part(s) that resembled the equivalent part(s) of his late wife's body, and taking the part after he'd killed them. This franchise gets creepy at times.



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Not only was it fridging, the whole Jack the Ripper/Frankenstein blood mage thing felt too Victorian Gothic for a medieval fantasy.


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