Why in the hell would you ever want to skip this scene?
Because I'm not into musical numbers. Does it matter?
It's the only cutscene that can't be skipped in the entire game. This needs to be fixed, because I am not sitting through this again during future playthroughs.
That awful reverb killed the song for me. It could've been a lot more natural and powerful without it
I thought the scene was cheesy and very B-movie.
Also, the whole Haven thing felt contrived and "fake":
All those people were running away while it was my dude and 3 others who battled a dragon and a cartoon villain.
Fortunately, my dude knew a ballista shot would trigger an avalanche, so we were good.
The whole thing felt very 70's comic book, as someone in another thread said.
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The scene was suppose to be the DA:I version of the Battle of Ostagar.
Unfortunately, it just came off lame and unconvincing to me.
Not to me mention my Atheist Inquisitor was like... What...?
Only thing I really would like changed about this scene was I wish turning off the subtitles in the menu would turn them off for this scene as well.
Other than that - and I'm speaking as an atheist myself - I love this scene. It has nothing to do with the Inquisitor's faith; you can establish what your character's religious leanings are throughout the course of the game. And that all is handled rather well, IMO. My Dalish elf just sat there, silent, as they all sang - watching them and not knowing what to say after everything that happened. I didn't feel like they were pushing a belief on me or anything, nor did I feel like was ever vilified for not believing in the Maker. The "Dawn Will Come" moment is all about the characters who *are* Andrastians coming together and finding hope where they previously saw none. And it's followed directly by Solas coming up to you and being all "yeah, I know what's going on... and it has nothing to do with their 'Maker'"
My Qunari Inquisitor countered Andrastian bullshit at every turn, but I didn't mind the scene. I love that faith is a major theme of DAI, and I love that I can deny it.
You wanna know what was awkward, though? Leliana singing in DAO. Ugh.
Alright, another option: mute the game while it plays the song, than switch to the following
Somebody actually might consider using the song and DAI-cinematics? I am eagerly awaiting it! 
My Qunari Inquisitor countered Andrastian bullshit at every turn, but I didn't mind the scene. I love that faith is a major theme of DAI, and I love that I can deny it.
You wanna know what was awkward, though? Leliana singing in DAO. Ugh.
You press a button, and it's done, if you didn't enjoy it.
Can't do that here.
For whatever reason.
There is no 'atheist Inquisitor'.
Your Inquisitor can express various atheist beliefs.
But at no point is the Inquisitor someone who identifies as atheist. If he even did, it would be on the agnostic side of things.
Inquisitor can be anti-Religion and deny the Maker, etc, sure.
But the Inquisitor is never outright antagonistic towards believers in deities just because they believe in deities.
This is one of those cases where your vision of RP does not fit the dungeon master's Bioware's version of RP. You had to get along with Cerberus. You had to be an agent of the Council. You had to stop the Blight. ..And you had to accept the responsibility of leading a population of people that was predominantly Andrastan. That's the story.
I wouldn't have been entirely opposed at there being an alternate form of that scene though. One where you can silence the song that is starting and give your own speech. However, this path might have had to work with the rest of the plot, and I don't think Bioware would have been ready to try such divergence.
Again, it's not about the content. Religion or not doesn't matter. The scene makes sense in the game and that's all good.
This is about our ability as gamers to skip a cutscene because we already saw it before or just don't want to listen to a song or whatever. We didn't pay for this game for it to resist us. There's no reason for this cutscene to be unskippable and changing that is not going to affect its meaning or its content in any way.
Everyone who likes it can still watch it just as before, all we are asking for is the freedom of choice.
Such a change would not hurt anyone, so why are people saying no? The only party who could refuse is BioWare because they don't have the time or resources for it. And that's for them to decide.
We need an option to pass an official policy, "Any Inquisition personnel referring to the Lord/Lady(Should have been Sir/Dame) Inquisiter, By the name Herald of Andraste will be on prisoners rations for a month,"
It's part of the Thedas culture. Deal with it.
That awful reverb killed the song for me. It could've been a lot more natural and powerful without it
The musician that wrote that piece would disagree. The reverb could also be your audio card/codec or poor audio controls.
Personally, I like it.
Again, it's not about the content. Religion or not doesn't matter. The scene makes sense in the game and that's all good.
This is about our ability as gamers to skip a cutscene because we already saw it before or just don't want to listen to a song or whatever. We didn't pay for this game for it to resist us. There's no reason for this cutscene to be unskippable and changing that is not going to affect its meaning or its content in any way.
Everyone who likes it can still watch it just as before, all we are asking for is the freedom of choice.
Such a change would not hurt anyone, so why are people saying no? The only party who could refuse is BioWare because they don't have the time or resources for it. And that's for them to decide.
This is a reasonable thing to ask for. I don't think people are saying "no" to being able to skip it. The issue really arose from people trashing the religious aspect of it. That's why people are still arguing. Ahem, debating.
Poor pony can't appreciate the most powerful part of the game.
But the Inquisitor is never outright antagonistic towards believers in deities just because they believe in deities.
And that's not even atheism. That's anti-theism.
I really don't have a problem with not being able to RP Bill Maher in this game.
And that's not even atheism. That's anti-theism.
I really don't have a problem with not being able to RP Bill Maher in this game.
Just about to post that verry thing.
So now we've discussed the merits for and against the scene. We can probably agree that we should (if we want to) be able to skip it.
I don't want to skip the scene, but it would be nice to be able to watch it without subtitles suddenly coming on for the duration. :\
Oh so much this, I HATE this! And all these annoying approval-meeages and notifications about Cullen having found the elfroot ...I want them all gone when a cutscene is on, damnit!!!
I like the song I just find it hilariously awkward when people randomly start singing. Like screw you guys I don't know the words.... im so out of the loop ;-;
Alright, another option: mute the game while it plays the song, than switch to the following
Somebody actually might consider using the song and DAI-cinematics? I am eagerly awaiting it!
Beautiful... just beautiful.. thanks
Oh so much this, I HATE this! And all these annoying approval-meeages and notifications about Cullen having found the elfroot ...I want them all gone when a cutscene is on, damnit!!!
If you and I were having a drink or two across the table, I would enjoy hearing your wit and repartee skills.
Awesome.. just awesome.
The musician that wrote that piece would disagree. The reverb could also be your audio card/codec or poor audio controls.
Personally, I like it.
Pretty sure it isn't my audio gear. It's what I think, to me the reverb on the voices createad a big distance between me and what's going on the scene, he could've used less or none on the vocals, I get the feeling that the characters aren't really singing. I wouldn't be complaining about it if this song were in the credits, for example.
Take this and notice how the reverb on the vocals is lot less agressive, bringing you really close to the scene
Morrigan and Solas are both atheists and two of the best Dragon Age characters.
Imagine your mother so strict and merciless and an old god to boon, no wonder morrigan is a skeptic when it come to religion
And that's not even atheism. That's anti-theism.
I really don't have a problem with not being able to RP Bill Maher in this game.
Yup.
EDIT: I guess what I was trying to get at is that the Inquisitor is not atheistic to the point of being anti-theistic towards people. He can say "arguments about the next world etc etc", but that has more to do with spiritual divisions than a statement that one shouldn't have a spiritual belief. It is hard to construe anything the Inquisitor says to be a statement of broad atheism. He's no, say, Morrigan (who seems to just view everything as natural forces at work, not 'gods'), though you can guide things in that general direction nonetheless.
Playing a brutally violent Inquisitor, I was extremely peeved I couldn't take out a knife and gut Mother Giselle the moment she started singing, then turn to everybody else and say, "You sing, you're next."
Being able to skip the song would have been the next best thing; it has nothing to do with faith, and everything to do with somebody attempting to force their beliefs on my character.
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