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[Namea]

Suggestions:

 

#1:  get more ram, have at least 8, 16 would be better, ram is fairly inexpensive

 

#2:  upgrade your video card, the GTX 770, while definitely not the fastest Nvidia card, is kind of a sweet spot between performance and cost.  check out prices on Amazon.

 

#3:  upgrade your processor, more expensive option, plus you will be limited by what motherboard you have in your system.

 

#4:  taking all those upgrades together, it might be less expensive, or at least more economical to buy a new system, although that cost is all at once instead of spread out over a few months.

 

Awesome, thanks for the suggestions! I've got 32 GB of DDR3 ram sitting around that I can't use (System I'm on now uses DDR2) so Ram is covered. I definitely need a new GPU and Processor. I'm pretty sure my motherboard is obsolete now too although it seems to run great. 

 

I did find a really nice "build your own" deal on Newegg that I might be able to convince my hubby to get. It's about 100 more than my budget but it's great. Crossing my fingers that he'll let me go for it because if I get that one I won't need to upgrade for more than a while.

[hwlrmnky]

I also think you should go for 16 RAM. I have 8 and I think I would benefit more memory since we tend to backtrack a lot in this game (within a rendered area.) Also, I was totally serious about chipping in! And if you know any female engineers or programmers my husband's company is always looking to hire more; some tech-commuting contracts are possible, particularly in Python.

I am so excited for you! Upgrading the rig is always thrilling. I need a new video card too but I'm going to wait until the Nvidia Gamestream enabled cards come down in price a little.

[Namea]

I also think you should go for 16 RAM. I have 8 and I think I would benefit more memory since we tend to backtrack a lot in this game (within a rendered area.) Also, I was totally serious about chipping in! And if you know any female engineers or programmers my husband's company is always looking to hire more; some tech-commuting contracts are possible, particularly in Python.

I am so excited for you! Upgrading the rig is always thrilling. I need a new video card too but I'm going to wait until the Nvidia Gamestream enabled cards come down in price a little.

 

I'm excited too! I haven't upgraded in so long...I've had this setup since...I believe 2008 except for the graphics card which is from three years ago or so. I think it's just time but I'm thrilled that she's lasted me this long. If I get a completely new PC I'll probably keep this one for my son to learn how to work a computer or maybe even give it to my husband and hope he doesn't make it explode. 

 

Ooh, I'll let a couple of my friends know! I'm only semi-fluent in Python and Java but I know several people who are way more skilled than I! 

[Deathangel008]

I did find a really nice "build your own" deal on Newegg

link?

[Namea]

link?

Here

 

The options I chose added up to a little over 1k but I think I can downgrade if my hubby says no. 

I chose:

The  [+$19.00] Raidmax Viper GX Black/Green Mid-Tower Gaming Case 

 [+$44.00] AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz(4.1GHz Turbo) CPU and AMD 760G Chipset Motherboard Combo

[+$23.00] 120MM Closed-loop Liquid Cooler

 [+$108.00] 120GB SSD Boot Drive + 1TB 7200 RPM Storage Drive

 [+$133.00] 16GB DDR3 1600MHz (2 X 8GB)

[+$315.00] NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card (Require Min. 500W Power Supply)

 [+$79.00] Corsair 750 Watt CS750M 80+ Modular Power Supply

Standard dvd drive, windows 8.1 (I prefer 7 but I need to upgrade eventually anyway.)

 

I'm thinking if hubby says no I'll downgrade a few things. 

The green and black tower is for looks purely because...well...my favourite colour is green. It'd be awesome to have a green and black tower.

[Deathangel008]

PSU is way too big, 500W is enough!
why spend money for RAM if you already have 32GB of DDR3 RAM?
which GTX970 is that? picture shows a reference-design which isnt existing for the 970.
sorry, but to me that doesnt look good.

[Namea]

PSU is way too big, 500W is enough!
why spend money for RAM if you already have 32GB of DDR3 RAM?
which GTX970 is that? picture shows a reference-design which isnt existing for the 970.
sorry, but to me that doesnt look good.

True, I didn't even consider that! I'll go to the lowest ram and lower the processor. Hmm...I have no idea which GTX that is either. I'll have to keep looking I think. 

[xrayspex73]

Wow. Namea is dead serious about this upgrade.

 

A 500Watt PSU is barely enough for a newer GPU and may not have all of the 6/8pin power connectors needed for a 670/770/970GTX so just be mindful of that. Remember that it is not so much the overall watts but how many amps are supplied on the 12v rails. There is a rating on the PSU which shows that. Most modern GPUs require somewhere around 35-40amps.

 

A new mobo will be required to make the jump to an I5/I7.

 

$900 budget is more than enough to get yourself to an I7/Mobo/970GTX considering you already have the RAM and PSU.

[Deathangel008]

A 500Watt PSU is barely enough for a newer GPU and may not have all of the 6/8pin power connectors needed for a 670/770/970GTX so just be mindful of that. Remember that it is not so much the overall watts but how many amps are supplied on the 12v rails. There is a rating on the PSU which shows that. Most modern GPUs require somewhere around 35-40amps.

lol, 500W is more than enough for any single-GPU system. for a GTX970 even 400W are enough. important is that you buy a high-quality PSU and no cheap china-crap.
 

$900 budget is more than enough to get yourself to an I7/Mobo/970GTX considering you already have the RAM and PSU.

take a look at the Intel Xeon E3 1231v3 (+ a H97 board), basically an i7 4770 without iGPU and less expensive.
my recommendation for the 970 would be the MSI GTX970 Gaming 4G, which is very quiet. but, dont forget that a lot of 970s have problems with coil whine.
also take a look at AMDs R9 290, only a few % slower, but less expensive.

[xrayspex73]

lol, 500W is more than enough for any single-GPU system. for a GTX970 even 400W are enough. important is that you buy a high-quality PSU and no cheap china-crap.
 

Again, not exactly true. You clearly did not read the rest of my statement. And for the record, almost all PSUs are made in China.

[Bizantura]

If money is really an issue then opt for AMD card with mantle capabilities.  Depending where you live like in the USA AMD is really going for bang for buck.  Also DAI is running on the same engine as battlefield.

 

http://battlelog.bat...f4-mantle-live/

 

And yes I read you rather like Nvidia.

[Deathangel008]

Again, not exactly true. You clearly did not read the rest of my statement.

i did read your entire post. good 400/500W PSUs usually have two 6+2pin PCIe connectors and enough amps on the 12V rail(s).
and it is true, that you dont need more than 500W for a singleGPU-system, as long as you dont have an AMD FX9XXX or an overclocked Sandy/Ivy/Haswell-E CPU. and it is true, that, with a non-overclocked socket 1150 i5/i7/Xeon and a GTX970, 400W is enough, unless you have 10 or more HDDs.
 

And for the record, almost all PSUs are made in China.

smartass, you know what i mean.

[Namea]

If money is really an issue then opt for AMD card with mantle capabilities.  Depending where you live like in the USA AMD is really going for bang for buck.  Also DAI is running on the same engine as battlefield.

 

http://battlelog.bat...f4-mantle-live/

 

And yes I read you rather like Nvidia.

 

I prefer it because it's what I'm used to but honestly if it's a good value I'm willing to switch. I'm not THAT picky. If it runs well I'm happy. There aren't many games I'm looking forward to in the near future and the computer I have now plays everything I already own brilliantly. BF4 and DA:I are the two more intense games for hardware that I have so I figured it's time to upgrade. 

[kingsims]

AMD 290X

 

DX12

4GB VRam

VSR

Freesync (If you buy a free sync capable monitor)

 

@$329 ($300 w rebate card) http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814121840

[Thandal N'Lyman]

I repeat myself, but if money *is*  an object (and it is for most of us) it's hard to beat the following, considering that it includes:

1)  Someone who knows what they're doing building the machine for you.

2)  Delivery within two weeks (5-days plus shipping time.)

2)  Life-time Expert Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty (Get that with your home-built?  Thought not!)

 

Digital Storm Vanquish II (Level 1)

Cost: US$700 (plus shipping)

Specs:
- AMD Radeon R7 260X 2GB
- AMD FX-4300 CPU
- 8GB 1600MHz Memory
- 500GB 7200RPM HDD
- ASUS 760G Chipset Motherboard
- 430W Corsair CX Power Supply
- DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW
- Microsoft Windows 8.1

 

Digital Storm Vanquish II (Level 3)

Cost: US$980 (plus shipping)

Specs:

- NVIDIA GTX 760 2GB
- Intel Core i5 4590 CPU
- 8GB 1600MHz Memory
- 1TB 7200RPM HDD
- ASUS H81 Chipset Motherboard
- 600W Corsair CX Power Supply
- DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW
- Microsoft Windows 8.1

 

I'm not a Digital Storm employee or marketer, just a satisfied customer.  I've built machines from scratch before and know what's involved.  When I consider what my time is worth, and what it's worth to have someone else standing behind the components and the work if something goes wrong, I really don't think you can do better than DS.

[Deathangel008]

Digital Storm Vanquish II (Level 1)
Cost: US$700 (plus shipping)
Specs:
- AMD Radeon R7 260X 2GB
- AMD FX-4300 CPU
- 8GB 1600MHz Memory
- 500GB 7200RPM HDD
- ASUS 760G Chipset Motherboard
- 430W Corsair CX Power Supply
- DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW
- Microsoft Windows 8.1

CPU is crap and not that big performance improvement compared to the Q6600
GPU is only ~50% faster than the 550ti
RAM: single- or dualchannel?
 

Digital Storm Vanquish II (Level 3)
Cost: US$980 (plus shipping)
Specs:
- NVIDIA GTX 760 2GB
- Intel Core i5 4590 CPU
- 8GB 1600MHz Memory
- 1TB 7200RPM HDD
- ASUS H81 Chipset Motherboard
- 600W Corsair CX Power Supply
- DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW
- Microsoft Windows 8.1

CPU is good, but does not really have an advantage over the cheaper i5 4460 except a slightly higher clock.
GPU is no good choice imo, the R9 280 is cheaper, a few % faster and has 3GB VRAM.
PSU is oversized
again, single-or dualchannel?

also dont forget that the OP already have a new 500W PSU, 32GB of DDR3 RAM and a case, so she would just need a new CPU, GPU, MB, HDD(?) and SSD.
my suggestion for the parts would be:
Intel Xeon E3 1231v3: ~250$
a H97 MB: ~100$
AMD R9 290: ~300$ (or a GTX970, preferably the Asus Strix or MSI Gaming 4G: ~350$)
Crucial MX100 256GB: ~110$
(a 1TB HDD: ~50$)

would be a really good system for ~800$.
 

[Master of the Deck]

If you're going the new system route, rather than a gradual upgrade, I will vouch (for what it's worth) for any system bought through Digital Storm.  My last 3 systems are from them as I upgrade about every 3 years.  They have the best customer support of any company I've dealt with, with a standard 3 year warranty.  Right now the warranty is upgraded to 4 years plus free ground shipping (and no, I don't work for them, just greatly impressed by their service and product).  There are several desktops that are well under $1000 (don't know what your actual budget is).  I think they are worth checking out anyway.

[UniformGreyColor]

Most high end PC components come with a manufacturers warranty if they're quality products if you can't afford a retailers warranty. Places like newegg have at least a 30 day return policy for most products and usually you can RMA stuff easily. If you're not going to be over clocking any of your HW then that may be all you need until you upgrade again. Also I would not attempt to mix and match RAM even if they are the same make and model and only use RAM from the same product package. I believe you said you will be getting a new/better PSU for Xmas but said you don't know the details. A high quality PSU is very important. and I suggest you ask your hubby exactly what it is so you know you're getting something good. Its not like its going to spoil the surprise. I wouldn't recommend anything below an 80+ Gold for a whole new build and I would get a 650W+ but nothing over 850W. The reason for this is that there is usually a sweet spot where the amount of power being used by the PSU is the most efficient and you will get the most out of your PSU when you are in that range. It will also give you room to get another GPU down the line when the current one alone can't quite cut it. CPUs usually can be used for longer, but I always recommend to buy newer technology when you can. A 4xxx series intel i5 will be fine for you for a good while. I'm all about the new 9xx series GPUs from Nvidia so I would try to pick up a reference 970 if its cheaper for you to do so. SSDs are optional but expensive for a good one and additional HHDs may be the better option if you are pinching pennies. Of course SSDs are very nice to have. I would go with crucial, samsung or sandisk.

[Namea]

Thank you so much for the advice! I'm glad that going for an i5 rather than an i7 will likely be alright. 

I hope the one my husband got me is good but I honestly don't know. I gave him a list of ones better than mine since he knows next to nothing about computers but for all I know he could have ignored the list. 

[Spooky81]

I'm using an EVGA GTX 670 and core i7-4820k CPU(though there shouldnt be THAT much different bewteen i7 and a high end i5).  Have almost every setting at maximum or set high and it runs great, though I haven't gotten around to testing everything on max.  If you can afford it, may want to consider something higher than the 600 series.  It's like GPUs become the most outdated the fastest.

[UniformGreyColor]

Thank you so much for the advice! I'm glad that going for an i5 rather than an i7 will likely be alright. 

I hope the one my husband got me is good but I honestly don't know. I gave him a list of ones better than mine since he knows next to nothing about computers but for all I know he could have ignored the list. 

 

NP, you know what, I'll save you the trouble. buy this one if you can.

[Barbyfly]

Hey, I'd like your opinion about what GPU should I get:

 

I was planning on getting a amd 270x vapor x 2GB.

 

The thing is I'd like to get one that will let me play upcoming games (I have ACU which requires 3gb gpu for example).

 

I could spend a little more and get a 280x 3GB, but I'm not sure if there's a huge difference between the 280x and the 270x (appart from the extra 1GB)

 

So, which one do you recommend? 

 

I want to buy AMD, I have always had good performance with them and I'm pretty happy because they're cheap and good GPUs.

[UniformGreyColor]

Short answer: If you're going AMD I would recommend the 280x. The reason for this is not that the extra 1GB is what is needed to play the game, it is that games are only going to get more demanding and you might just be thanking yourself for spending that little extra money for not having to upgrade just yet again for a new game. The inside scoop is that AMD is going to release the 3xx series cards soon so if time is not a huge factor for you I would hold off until AMD release those cards first and then see what the market is like after that for AMD cards. We have already seen a huge drop in previous gen cards and AMDs latest because of the release of the new Maxwell cards, so hold off if you can and if you can't, always make big upgrades when it comes to electronics. The reason for that is it will last you longer and you wont have to upgrade as much.

[ironhorse384]

Hey, I'd like your opinion about what GPU should I get:

 

I was planning on getting a amd 270x vapor x 2GB.

 

The thing is I'd like to get one that will let me play upcoming games (I have ACU which requires 3gb gpu for example).

 

I could spend a little more and get a 280x 3GB, but I'm not sure if there's a huge difference between the 280x and the 270x (appart from the extra 1GB)

 

So, which one do you recommend? 

 

I want to buy AMD, I have always had good performance with them and I'm pretty happy because they're cheap and good GPUs.M

More and more games are starting to require higher amounts of vram so I'd look at something like the XFX Radeon R9 290 Double Dissipation Edition 4GB. AMD is dropping prices on gpus to compete with Nvidia's 970+980 cards, so if you can afford it and have enough power to run it that might be an option for you.

[Barbyfly]

More and more games are starting to require higher amounts of vram so I'd look at something like the XFX Radeon R9 290 Double Dissipation Edition 4GB. AMD is dropping prices on gpus to compete with Nvidia's 970+980 cards, so if you can afford it and have enough power to run it that might be an option for you.

 

I didn't say it but I'm from Argentina, and they're much more expensive than in the USA or other countries.

 

Here, the one you suggest is about $800 usd aprox.... Out of my budget unfortunatelly...