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[Colonelkillabee]

I think there's a good chance the Templars you recruit stay in the inquisition after the entire ordeal.

Why? Cullen. He used to be a Templar, and sympathizes with their lifestyle. 

He is a figure-head for the Templars, he proved himself a competent leader in during sieges and forest combat and many will probably follow his example purely out of respect alone. He also quit lyrium depending on player choice, and that is something I imagine a lot of Templars having regret ever starting with, becoming slaves of lyrium. 

That whole Lyrium scene with Cullen reminded me of this:

 

http://www.southpark...61/mr-candy-bar

 

If you don't encourage him to quit, that is, lol. I did both and reloaded to see.

[Master Warder Z_]

I think there's a good chance the Templars you recruit stay in the inquisition after the entire ordeal.

Why? Cullen. He used to be a Templar, and sympathizes with their lifestyle. 

He is a figure-head for the Templars, he proved himself a competent leader in during sieges and forest combat and many will probably follow his example purely out of respect alone. He also quit lyrium depending on player choice, and that is something I imagine a lot of Templars having regret ever starting with, becoming slaves of lyrium. 

 

So you are expecting an army of thousands to remain because of an ex templar who won't even acknowledge his former title and may have given up on his usage of lyrium and is slowly going mental?

 

Rather then returning to the Chantry and the service they pledged themselves to?

 

Their war has ended, they have no reason not to leave.

 

The reasons the Order had to leave, are now antiquated.

[Master Warder Z_]

That whole Lyrium scene with Cullen reminded me of this:

 

http://www.southpark...61/mr-candy-bar

 

If you don't encourage him to quit, that is, lol. I did both and reloaded to see.

 

I personally think he should stay with the Lyrium; i actually used the Templar prompt that appeared and my Inquizzy was like "Why would you give it up? The power leaves you but the thirst never does."

 

o.o Lyrium is like heroin; you do it once and you will forever crave it.

 

There is no escaping that.

[Alejandrawrr]

Surprised no one's mentioned that whole elven gods business, which certainly got more hinting at and foreshadowing than the qunari or tevinters. I actually think a sequel to dai (whether it's in the form of a da4, or an awakening-esque expansion) will be centered around that, and as a result will likely pick up where quizzy left off, with the forces they've amassed having some relevance there... maybe that's just wishful thinking, since it feels like so much of what we built is untapped/unexplored as of inquisition's end.

[shurryy]

So you are expecting an army of thousands to remain because of an ex templar who won't even acknowledge his former title and may have given up on his usage of lyrium and is slowly going mental?

 

Rather then returning to the Chantry and the service they pledged themselves to?

 

Their war has ended, they have no reason not to leave.

 

The reasons the Order had to leave, are now antiquated.

Yes, that is what I am expecting, but that's just me... 

 

It all entirely depends and none of it can be set in any kind of stone. 

You have the option to continuously dishonor the Chantry, sway people into believing they are a failing organization and need to be prevented from rising to power again or give them any kind of recognition. 

 

At the same time, you have the option to do the complete opposite and sing their praises till the sky falls on your head. 

 

Likewise you have the option to continuously smacktalk the Templars and the Wardens, and considering the influence your words alone have not to mention the reach those words travel, discrediting and disbanding organizations can be done in a manner of different ways all in the name of the greater good.  You can exile the Wardens so their presence vanishes from Orlais completely. 

 

Their war never really ends as long as the inquisition keeps finding new goals. It's all speculation what can and will happen. 

[Master Warder Z_]

Their war never really ends 

 

The Mage Templar War is over.

 

The reason for the separation is absent.

 

Its time for the warriors of the faith to return home and hopefully be treated better.

[Hornless Qunari/Human DPS]

War Never Really ends. Mages and Templars will always dislike each other cause there always will be someone who rebels, on each side.

[Master Warder Z_]

War Never Really ends.

 

You ain't Ron Perlman.

[myahele]

I looked how the advisers had a scene of them moving their chess pieces on Theda's map, yet here are the gods doing the same thing to us

[RobRam10]

The Mage-Templar War has ended. It is time to prepared for the true war that will polarize the BSN:

 

The Tevinter Imperium vs The Qunari

[garrusfan1]

the inquisition will be like a group to stop wars and things like that. Kind of like the UN is supposed to be

[shurryy]

The Mage Templar War is over.

 

The reason for the separation is absent.

 

Its time for the warriors of the faith to return home and hopefully be treated better.

A list of plausible outcomes, and idealistic ones at best in a dark fantasy world. 

 

The same things can be all be listed as examples of what could go wrong and what shouldn't be repeated.

 

Conclusions can be drawn that a Templar order was a bad idea, a Chantry with power being a recipe for corruption, heresy and disaster, and caging mages in a circle was only asking for mage rebellions, whereas if a future where the latter conclusion becomes a reality might seem like justice, it can also be the key to another pandoras' box and a new war against the Mages. 

 

All speculation of course, we don't know. 

[Jester]

The Inquisition will be subsumed into the Chantry by the new Divine. 

I haven't finished the game yet, but so far it seems that the new Divine will be my Inquisitor's lover, hopelessly in love with him with her strings being pulled from the very beginning. 

[Hornless Qunari/Human DPS]

The Chantry has way to much power.. There like Catholic Vatican with a single purpose Human Rulers and be converted to there religion. 

[Master Warder Z_]

A list of plausible outcomes, and idealistic ones at best in a dark fantasy world. 

 

No; Literally the rebellion sort of collapses under its own weight either way.

 

The war is over in its current incarnation.

[herkles]

No; Literally the rebellion sort of collapses under its own weight either way.

 

The war is over in its current incarnation.

I am glad, while I don't want the idealism to stick at least not without struggle. What I would like to see is more political conflict, more intrigue, besides the mage-templars that everyone was focused on.

[Br3admax]

So you are expecting an army of thousands to remain because of an ex templar who won't even acknowledge his former title and may have given up on his usage of lyrium and is slowly going mental?

Rather then returning to the Chantry and the service they pledged themselves to?

Their war has ended, they have no reason not to leave.

The reasons the Order had to leave, are now antiquated.

If you conscript them and disband the Seekers, they'll choose to stay.

[Master Warder Z_]

I am glad, while I don't want the idealism to stick at least not without struggle. What I would like to see is more political conflict, more intrigue, besides the mage-templars that everyone was focused on.

 

Indeed; either faction is brought into the Inquisition while the opposition in its majority is brought under the service of Cory, with the faction chosen having stragglers and holdouts doing the same.

 

The military conflict between the Templars and Magi is over merely because of how the game chose to narrate it.

 

Not very happy with their approach, i was hoping the war would be more present then it was...but *shrugs*

[Master Warder Z_]

If you conscript them and disband the Seekers, they'll choose to stay.

 

Rather then joining a new Templar Order?

 

I suppose we will have to disagree on that Braddy boy.

[shurryy]

No; Literally the rebellion sort of collapses under its own weight either way.

 

The war is over in its current incarnation.

 

The war is over, but the memories of it remain. 
What caused the rebellion in the first place may make the solution seem simple, remove the things that caused the rebellion I.E The Templar Order or the Circle of Magi or the Chantry or whomever you blame. 

The point is, when you think you removed the problem, you might only have opened the gates for more problems. 

Example, if you save the mages and give them their freedom, the relationship between common man and mages is still going to be very strained straight out the door, because of the Chantry and the Templar order, they are not going to get along to begin with and it won't take much for the mages to feel disrespected. At that point someone just may see their chance to rise to power to take their respect no matter the cost. 

 

You seem to have a very strong sense of how things will play out.
Personally I am rather pessimistic, but also a realist, so I don't think things will go smoothly no matter what I choose. Every action has a reaction, I know I am quoting Newton, but it also applies in some sense to reality and the nature of people as well. 

[Br3admax]

Rather then joining a new Templar Order?

I suppose we will have to disagree on that Braddy boy.

How can you debate something said in game?

[herkles]

The point is, when you think you removed the problem, you might only have opened the gates for more problems. 

Example, if you save the mages and give them their freedom, the relationship between common man and mages is still going to be very strained straight out the door, because of the Chantry and the Templar order, they are not going to get along to begin with and it won't take much for the mages to feel disrespected. At that point someone just may see their chance to rise to power to take their respect no matter the cost. 

 

You seem to have a very strong sense of how things will play out.
Personally I am rather pessimistic, but also a realist, so I don't think things will go smoothly no matter what I choose. Every action has a reaction, I know I am quoting Newton, but it also applies in some sense to reality and the nature of people as well. 

nah unharden lelianna makes everyone get over their tension and dislike of each other and everyone becomes happy with a free college of magi. Their distrust just evaporating with her golden words.

[Colonelkillabee]

Surprised no one's mentioned that whole elven gods business, which certainly got more hinting at and foreshadowing than the qunari or tevinters. I actually think a sequel to dai (whether it's in the form of a da4, or an awakening-esque expansion) will be centered around that, and as a result will likely pick up where quizzy left off, with the forces they've amassed having some relevance there... maybe that's just wishful thinking, since it feels like so much of what we built is untapped/unexplored as of inquisition's end.

Personally it's because I hope it doesn't. At least not as the main problem. Don't really give a hoot about elves. **** 'em, lol.

 

I like them, don't get me wrong. But not enough to put them in the limelight. The Qunari are a lot more interesting to me.

[shurryy]

nah unharden lelianna makes everyone get over their tension and dislike of each other and everyone becomes happy with a free college of magi. Their distrust just evaporating with her golden words.

I wish I had your optimism. 

Lelianna is fucked up in my game unfortunately. In my vain attempts at trying to get her over her grief told her to deal with her issues and slit the throat of that Chantry sister, seems to have pushed her over the edge. Planning to have it go smoother in my current second playthrough though, she'll be divine then. 

[Augustei]

Rather then joining a new Templar Order?

 

I suppose we will have to disagree on that Braddy boy.

They can stay regardless of who you have end up as divine, The Order is reformed under 2 of the 3 options divine but most of the Templars remain with the Inquisition if you conscripted them. Not like many of em are needed atm anyway I guess, with most of the southern mages dead under a mountainslide in Haven if you sided with the Templars

But yeah if you conscript em and play your cards a certain way:

Spoiler

Under Cass and Viv: The Order is reformed and 1 of 3 things can happen, the majority can stay with the Inquisition, majority join the seekers or majority return to the order.
Under Leliana: Most stay, a few become mercenaries - otherwise rejoin the seekers if formed.