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[Sully13]

could work as a #n information gathering thing,

[CreepingShadow]

It is also tough, exploitative, even nowadays, even when it's legalized. Especially when it's legalized, because it increases human trafficking.   No matter how much it upsets people who love the idea of prostitution, the reality is that the women(and men) in it suffer rates of homelessness, poverty,rape,violence and post traumatic disorder that make claiming it's ''a job like any other'' insanity. 

That's both unexpected and very unfortunate one would think a well regulated industry, would reduce the demand for trafficked girls. Still though, why should any government have the right to tell a person what to do with their own body? Why should we lock people up for a "crime" that if it harms anyone, only harms themselves?

[Little Princess Peach]

tell you why theres no btrothel desire demons stole all of the customers so they had to shut down

[Heimdall]

That's both unexpected and very unfortunate one would think a well regulated industry, would reduce the demand for trafficked girls. Still though, why should any government have the right to tell a person what to do with their own body? Why should we lock people up for a "crime" that if it harms anyone, only harms themselves?

To provide an incentive against doing harm to themselves? (Just offering the obvious counter, not really arguing)

Really though, I guess it's an entrenched moral attitude condemning the practice outright combined with the above idea.

[robertthebard]

tell you why theres no btrothel desire demons stole all of the customers so they had to shut down

Those bastards!!!, er, or maybe not...

[Fishy]

Brothel is not politically correct.

DA:I seems to strive for certain political correctness, what with the Qun's modified opinion on female soldiers for Krem's benefit.

 

I think it's a bit childish personally, I support the right of everyone to act according to his or her sexual desires,

but I don't appreciate preachiness in my entertainment.

There's a lot of political correctness in video game. Less in movie.

[Osena109]

Meh... Women out number men  8 to 1 this was bound to happen one day

[TheLastArchivist]

I wish there were more brothels for women. Both in real life as well as videogames.

Sometimes all I want is to have a nice, long shag with a handsome, muscular (and preferably hygienic) greek blond, blue-eyed god.

 

No strings attached. Just dancing together. 

[Sully13]

Oh they exist.

[TheLastArchivist]

Oh they exist.

Time for me to go outside and look for them. 

[Sully13]

mostly in Europe and Japan mind. 

[Rannik]

Oh they exist.

 

Not many of them... that's what my friend told me anyway.

[King Dragonlord]

You know, I do see a lot of political correctness in this game and it wouldn't shock me to learn that they struck the brothel from the game for that reason. But my gut tells me that they had a lot else to do and given the mostly female writing staff, this just seemed like an easy enough thing not to have to bother with. One of many things.

 

I mean why don't we get to use blood magic in this game? It was in the previous two games. And sure the Inquisition might not be happy with you using blood magic but what are they going to do? Turn down the help of the guy with the rift closing thingie on his hand?

 

But no, necromancy, that's way better than blood magic . . . 

 

Why don't we have the AI customization options from the last two games?

 

I don't read a conscious agenda here. At most, their leanings might have made it a little easier to leave this out when they were deciding what to focus on. 

 

EDIT: Plus they're right. I'm not against brothels in games but Bioware never did them particularly well. Always kind of awkward.

[Darth Death]

Seeing how BioWare is pushing the envelope with the romance scenes this time around, it's probably for the best to have them excluded.   

[KaiserShep]

EDIT: Plus they're right. I'm not against brothels in games but Bioware never did them particularly well. Always kind of awkward.

 

Yeah, the way we had brothels in the first two games was kind of so so. DA2's implementation of it with the Blooming Rose was more amusing, but not at all because of the actual prostitution itself. It was funny to see Gamlen hanging around in there making stuff up about it being medicinal, and of course Isabela's companion quest, though that could have just as easily taken place in a regular seedy tavern. All in all I think taverns are more important for the atmosphere. It's just too bad we couldn't drink at our own leisure in there.

[Giantdeathrobot]

You've never seen Game of Thrones (or read A Song of Ice and Fire), have you? Because throwing that into this comparison is really, really funny with that in context.

 

Yeah, at least Dragon Age doesn't seem contractually obligated to have ****** in every single quest.

 

Besides, I don't think the game needs a brothel anyway. A handful of camp followers around Skyhold could have done the trick, however.

[CreepingShadow]

 
If it actually did these things, you might be right. However, we already had a place for that, in DA ][ at least--Darktown. Regardless a brothel is definitely not the only place that attracts seedy individuals.
 
For that, all they need to do is import a Wal-Mart.

OMFG, I almost spit water at my screen. Hilarious but so so true.

[TheExtreamH]

its Orlais i think people are to busy playing games with words and knifes and not with fingers and meat 

[mikeymoonshine]

It is also tough, exploitative, even nowadays, even when it's legalized. Especially when it's legalized, because it increases human trafficking.   No matter how much it upsets people who love the idea of prostitution, the reality is that the women(and men) in it suffer rates of homelessness, poverty,rape,violence and post traumatic disorder that make claiming it's ''a job like any other'' insanity. 

 

That's certainly worrying but then this study claims the data is not entirely conclusive and needs to be subjected to more scrutiny in it's own conclusion. 

 

 

Naturally, this qualitative

evidence is also somewhat tentative as there is no “smoking

gun” proving that the scale effect dominates the substitution

effect and that the legalization of prostitution definitely increases

inward trafficking flows. The problem here lies in the

clandestine nature of both the prostitution and trafficking

markets, making it difficult, perhaps impossible, to find hard

evidence establishing this relationship. Our central finding,

i.e., that countries with legalized prostitution experience a larger

reported incidence of trafficking inflows, is therefore best

regarded as being based on the most reliable existing data,

but needs to be subjected to future scrutiny.

 

As for the other problems you listed I imagine a well regulated legalized system could solve or at least help for many. There will be up sides and down sides whatever we do. No matter how much it might upset you to admit it, prostitution is a tricky issue with no easy answer. 

[Maverick827]

Outright misandry from the modern face of feminism, and people are still going to defend it. This is really depressing.

This is why I could no longer call myself a feminist. I find the term "egalitarian," and the people under that umbrella, to be more in line with the feminism I was taught in college.

[Shimmer_Gloom]

Jeez. I said I liked the brothel but it was a bit unnessicary and sexist. I didn't say anything about pitch forks or wanting to rake people over coals or anything.

It's not even a big deal. But man. The hate is strong with some of you guys. Feminism isn't a zero sum game, guys. Equality isn't gunna hurt your paycheck. And Feminist crit isn't gunna stop somebody from making 'God of War 7: this time Kratos has Boobs.'

Relax, man.

[Teddie Sage]

Jeez. I said I liked the brothel but it was a bit unnessicary and sexist. I didn't say anything about pitch forks or wanting to rake people over coals or anything.

It's not even a big deal. But man. The hate is strong with some of you guys. Feminism isn't a zero sum game, guys. Equality isn't gunna hurt your paycheck. And Feminist crit isn't gunna stop somebody from making 'God of War 7: this time Kratos has Boobs.'

Relax, man.

It isn't sexist if there are both male and female NPCs selling their bodies. You asked for equality? You got it.

[Sully13]

can we just get on whit the topic at hand?

look it could have been a good spot for a Mata Hari type agent. 

[DetcelferVisionary]

Community:  The lack of brothels ruins my immersion in a dark ages, wild west, male, patriarchy, chauvinistic sorta way. 

 

Bioware:  We're not trying to upset people,  we're trying to make people critically think and brothels does not fit in that criteria at this time.

 

Community:  But, but, if it doesn't have super dark subject matter its just not REAL.

 

Bioware:  We give you deaths of prominent characters,  sexual intrigue in romances,  politics, a tear in the sky,  and the possible ending of the world as we know it and the one thing that pulls you out...   is a lack of a brothel?  

 

Community:  Yeah, but what about blood magic, you had that and now you're removing it. 

 

Bioware:  Do you think with the likes of Cullen, Cassandra and Lilianna that the inquisition would last 5 seconds if they found out you were using blood magic?  The only person who would probably support you (depending on how you used it) would be Solas.