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I'm going to leave this here, because I feel like there's a lot of undeserved hate going around. Not everybody is going to agree with this assessment, and I fully expect some vocal detractors to hop on here and tear this review apart. But I have so far thoroughly enjoyed Dragon Age: Inquisition, and I'd like to express that to BioWare so they can see that not all the reviews are negative. Also, I'll try to keep spoilers out of it, but WARNING: THERE ARE MINOR SPOILERS.

 

Back story: I've played through KOTOR, all of the Mass Effects, and all of the Dragon Ages ad nauseam. I've purchased all of the DLC. I've played all of them on PC (though for some reason this site only recognizes that I've played DA:I). I have greatly enjoyed all of these games.

 

In my opinion, Dragon Age: Inquisition is the best of the Dragon Age games. Right there, I've lost half of you. That's okay. This is just  my opinion, remember.

 

Why did I like DA:I so much? A number of reasons. I loved the story. I loved the majority of the characters. The semi-open world environments have given me the most joy I've ever experienced in a game based around exploration. I enjoyed the gameplay, bar a few hiccups here and there. I felt like my choices mattered. For me, the combat was exciting and fun. And last but definitely not least, this is easily the most beautiful game I've ever played.

 

Why I loved the story: It's about the birth of an icon who will persist through the ages, inspiring fanaticism, love, and the deepest of hatreds. For me, DA:I wasn't the story of how you saved the world from the Elder One; rather, it was the origin story of a religious icon. All of the things that happened along the way are more or less inconsequential, save for how they define the story that people across Thedas will be telling in five hundred years. Your actions during the game set the stage for how relations between mages and normal people will play out for decades; they can potentially redraw the path the Chantry will take; and most of all, they will decide whether your Inquisitor is remembered as a benevolent savior or a holy crusader. 

 

For me, playing this game was like playing a game about the birth of Christianity or Islam; I found it fascinating to draw parallels between the Inquisitor and real-world religious icons, and more than anything it made me wonder if the people who were the catalysts for how those religions are today went through similar struggles. Ultimately, it provided me with a wonderful seventy-hour thought experiment on what it might be like to guide an entire civilization. During my first (and what I consider canonical for me) playthrough, I was an Inquisitor who constantly doubted himself and his ability to prevail against all of the awful madness going on around him. I was a human warrior, and since it says in the back story that the Trevelyans have close ties with the Ostwick Templars, I tried to keep that in mind. My Inquisitor was Andrastian, naturally, but over the course of the game his faith started to erode after the constant barrage of terrible things happening in the world, and my favorite part of roleplaying him was wondering whether he was making the right choices, whether the Maker even existed, and whether he was a lucky accident or a card of fate played eons ago by an invisible hand. Heavy stuff.

 

Why I loved the characters (mostly): There have been very few BioWare characters that I didn't like, honestly. Sera was the exception here, and I have to be honest - I'm still not really sure why she was included. That's not true: I understand why. I just wish that she hadn't been such a central character. Having a friend of Red Jenny who wasn't a delusional, single-minded fool would have been very nice.

 

But now that I've gotten that out of the way: I loved everybody else. I romanced Cassandra - in my opinion, best BioWare romance to date. (Though I have not, admittedly, seen the Blackwall romance, and I hear that it's amazing.) And on top of that, she was an incredible character to boot - everything I could have ever wanted in a woman. Sigh. Too bad she isn't real. Dorian? Bro of the century award. I would like to go out to a gay bar and hook Dorian up. I want to have him around to sass the $h!t out of anybody who screws with me. Iron Bull wins a close second place to bro of the year, and his Demands of the Qun quest was easily the most emotional part of the game for me. (Definitely reloaded that save.) Blackwall - what an incredible character arc. I did not see that one coming. Solas? More like BROLAS. I can't wait to see where BioWare takes him. Varric is always a welcome addition to my party, and I hope to the gods that he continues to appear in future games. Cole was easily one of my favorite characters, and he had one of my favorite character arcs. What a climax to that whole quest line! Vivenne? Sassy, sassy, mean woman...who I got along with just fine, for the most part. I really loved listening to her tear people apart. And then, of course, there were the advisers - Cullen was an easy favorite, Josephine was more interesting than I expected, and Leliana was scary as the righteous fanatic who just knew she was doing the right thing.

 

Why I enjoyed everything else: The combat was more visceral and responsive than in DA:O, but less cartoony than in DA2. I liked that. Hitting something with my giant greatsword felt appropriately powerful, and tearing things apart as a Reaver was so badass. (Protip: wear light colors and go bananas with Dragon Rage. You will look like a glorious psychopath.) The exploration was perfect, in my opinion; the stages were massive enough that I never felt claustrophobic, but small enough that I didn't get bored like I did from time to time in Skyrim. And, added bonus, this game is beautiful. There is no game that I have played that has taken my breath away like DA:I. Skyrim was amazing because it was huge and the environment was pretty; Tomb Raider was gorgeous like nothing I'd ever seen; Crysis still has no competition when it comes to meticulous detail; and yet DA:I blew all of these games out of the water. Watching the sun come through the trees in the Hinterlands, cresting a fifty-foot dune in the Hissing Wastes, watching the lightning storm in Crestwood...incredible. Simply incredible. I spent a ridiculous amount of time just standing and staring at the scenery. Well done.

 

What I didn't like: Okay, more like "things that annoyed me." The game was buggy at launch (it still is) but I can deal with that for the most part. Giant RPGs are buggy. Get over it. I never once encountered a game-breaking bug, and in one hundred hours it's only crashed once, right after the first patch was released. However, there was one thing that just drove me up the wall: the sound of my Inquisitor jumping. I don't know if anybody else encountered this, but about one third of the time I jumped, he would make this horrible noise like a dog barking while getting kicked by Bruce Lee. Don't know if it was an audio glitch or intentional, but whatever it is, I hate it. It's the only thing that takes me out of the game.

 

Combat, while enjoyable, can sometimes get frustrating. Every once in awhile my Inquisitor will seemingly forget how to use his weapon in any way but by slashing side to side at about chest height. What that means is that, on occasion, I'll just sit there swinging at empty air when I'm trying to murder a downed enemy. Frustrating. Occasionally abilities will not trigger correctly, either, i.e. my Scorpion kunai grappling hook, which on occasion will fail to trigger the kick after my opponent is reeled in. But again, this is only occasional.

 

I won't talk much about the PC controls or the Tac-Cam, because that's been done to death and everybody is aware that they suck. I know it, BioWare knows it, the world knows it. They're working on fixing them. Be patient. I have faith. They've already patched the loot finding system so that it works one hundred percent of the time now, instead of just fifty. Hooray for radar blips!

 

The armor looks stupid - again. Not all of it, mind you, but it takes a long time to finally find some that doesn't look ridiculous. And what is with BioWare's apparent hardon for bloodstone and dawnstone? (Summer stone? Whichever one is that silly light pink color.) It seemed like almost every piece of early armor I found that was worth a damn was either garishly bright and shiny red, or a pale, half-assed pink. Jeez. But it's okay, because eventually you get dragon bone and dragon scales, so all is forgiven.

 

I'd like just one more button for combat. For example, the left bumper on the Xbone controller (which I used to mitigate the pooptastic PC controls). Make LB your final button for combat, effectively giving you two more abilities, and move the radial wheel to either left or right on the D-Pad. Two more abilities isn't going to ruin the tactical nature of combat, dudes, and it would be really nice for the players.

 

And lastly, I'd love a New Game Plus option. I really don't understand why that still hasn't been implemented in the Dragon Age games, because it would work really well and - most importantly - it would allow my Inquisitor to not look like a total boob for the first half of the game.

 

So all in all: I loved DA:I. It's right up there with (the fixed version of) ME3 for me, which will always hold a very special place in my heart. I haven't had this much fun playing a game since...well...ME3. So thank you, BioWare. I love you guys. You keep cranking out awesome games, and I'll keep buying them.

 

TL;DR: Really? Too long? It's a review. Shoo.


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I'm going to leave this here, because I feel like there's a lot of undeserved hate going around. Not everybody is going to agree with this assessment, and I fully expect some vocal detractors to hop on here and tear this review apart. But I have so far thoroughly enjoyed Dragon Age: Inquisition, and I'd like to express that to BioWare so they can see that not all the reviews are negative. Also, I'll try to keep spoilers out of it.

 

Back story: I've played through KOTOR, all of the Mass Effects, and all of the Dragon Ages ad nauseam. I've purchased all of the DLC. I've played all of them on PC (though for some reason this site only recognizes that I've played DA:I). I have greatly enjoyed all of these games.

 

In my opinion, Dragon Age: Inquisition is the best of the Dragon Age games. Right there, I've lost half of you. That's okay. This is just  my opinion, remember.

 

Why did I like DA:I so much? A number of reasons. I loved the story. I loved the majority of the characters. The semi-open world environments have given me the most joy I've ever experienced in a game based around exploration. I enjoyed the gameplay, bar a few hiccups here and there. I felt like my choices mattered. For me, the combat was exciting and fun. And last but definitely not least, this is easily the most beautiful game I've ever played.

 

Why I loved the story: It's about the birth of an icon who will persist through the ages, inspiring fanaticism, love, and the deepest of hatreds. For me, DA:I wasn't the story of how you saved the world from the Elder One; rather, it was the origin story of a religious icon. All of the things that happened along the way are more or less inconsequential, save for how they define the story that people across Thedas will be telling in five hundred years. Your actions during the game set the stage for how relations between mages and normal people will play out for decades; they can potentially redraw the path the Chantry will take; and most of all, they will decide whether your Inquisitor is remembered as a benevolent savior or a holy crusader. 

 

For me, playing this game was like playing a game about the birth of Christianity or Islam; I found it fascinating to draw parallels between the Inquisitor and real-world religious icons, and more than anything it made me wonder if the people who were the catalysts for how those religions are today went through similar struggles. Ultimately, it provided me with a wonderful seventy-hour thought experiment on what it might be like to guide an entire civilization. During my first (and what I consider canonical for me) playthrough, I was an Inquisitor who constantly doubted himself and his ability to prevail against all of the awful madness going on around him. I was a human warrior, and since it says in the back story that the Trevelyans have close ties with the Ostwick Templars, I tried to keep that in mind. My Inquisitor was Andrastian, naturally, but over the course of the game his faith started to erode after the constant barrage of terrible things happening in the world, and my favorite part of roleplaying him was wondering whether he was making the right choices, whether the Maker even existed, and whether he was a lucky accident or a card of fate played eons ago by an invisible hand. Heavy stuff.

 

Why I loved the characters (mostly): There have been very few BioWare characters that I didn't like, honestly. Sera was the exception here, and I have to be honest - I'm still not really sure why she was included. That's not true: I understand why. I just wish that she hadn't been such a central character. Having a friend of Red Jenny who wasn't a delusional, single-minded fool would have been very nice.

 

But now that I've gotten that out of the way: I loved everybody else. I romanced Cassandra - in my opinion, best BioWare romance to date. (Though I have not, admittedly, seen the Blackwall romance, and I hear that it's amazing.) And on top of that, she was an incredible character to boot - everything I could have ever wanted in a woman. Sigh. Too bad she isn't real. Dorian? Bro of the century award. I would like to go out to a gay bar and hook Dorian up. I want to have him around to sass the $h!t out of anybody who screws with me. Iron Bull wins a close second place to bro of the year, and his Demands of the Qun quest was easily the most emotional part of the game for me. (Definitely reloaded that save.) Blackwall - what an incredible character arc. I did not see that one coming. Solas? More like BROLAS. I can't wait to see where BioWare takes him. Varric is always a welcome addition to my party, and I hope to the gods that he continues to appear in future games. Cole was easily one of my favorite characters, and he had one of my favorite character arcs. What a climax to that whole quest line! Vivenne? Sassy, sassy, mean woman...who I got along with just fine, for the most part. I really loved listening to her tear people apart. And then, of course, there were the advisers - Cullen was an easy favorite, Josephine was more interesting than I expected, and Leliana was scary as the righteous fanatic who just knew she was doing the right thing.

 

Why I enjoyed everything else: The combat was more visceral and responsive than in DA:O, but less cartoony than in DA2. I liked that. Hitting something with my giant greatsword felt appropriately powerful, and tearing things apart as a Reaver was so badass. (Protip: wear light colors and go bananas with Dragon Rage. You will look like a glorious psychopath.) The exploration was perfect, in my opinion; the stages were massive enough that I never felt claustrophobic, but small enough that I didn't get bored like I did from time to time in Skyrim. And, added bonus, this game is beautiful. There is no game that I have played that has taken my breath away like DA:I. Skyrim was amazing because it was huge and the environment was pretty; Tomb Raider was gorgeous like nothing I'd ever seen; Crysis still has no competition when it comes to meticulous detail; and yet DA:I blew all of these games out of the water. Watching the sun come through the trees in the Hinterlands, cresting a fifty-foot dune in the Hissing Wastes, watching the lightning storm in Crestwood...incredible. Simply incredible. I spent a ridiculous amount of time just standing and staring at the scenery. Well done.

 

What I didn't like: Okay, more like "things that annoyed me." The game was buggy at launch (it still is) but I can deal with that for the most part. Giant RPGs are buggy. Get over it. I never once encountered a game-breaking bug, and in one hundred hours it's only crashed once, right after the first patch was released. However, there was one thing that just drove me up the wall: the sound of my Inquisitor jumping. I don't know if anybody else encountered this, but about one third of the time I jumped, he would make this horrible noise like a dog barking while getting kicked by Bruce Lee. Don't know if it was an audio glitch or intentional, but whatever it is, I hate it. It's the only thing that takes me out of the game.

 

Combat, while enjoyable, can sometimes get frustrating. Every once in awhile my Inquisitor will seemingly forget how to use his weapon in any way but by slashing side to side at about chest height. What that means is that, on occasion, I'll just sit there swinging at empty air when I'm trying to murder a downed enemy. Frustrating. Occasionally abilities will not trigger correctly, either, i.e. my Scorpion kunai grappling hook, which on occasion will fail to trigger the kick after my opponent is reeled in. But again, this is only occasional.

 

I won't talk much about the PC controls or the Tac-Cam, because that's been done to death and everybody is aware that they suck. I know it, BioWare knows it, the world knows it. They're working on fixing them. Be patient. I have faith. They've already patched the loot finding system so that it works one hundred percent of the time now, instead of just fifty. Hooray for radar blips!

 

The armor looks stupid - again. Not all of it, mind you, but it takes a long time to finally find some that doesn't look ridiculous. And what is with BioWare's apparent hardon for bloodstone and dawnstone? (Summer stone? Whichever one is that silly light pink color.) It seemed like almost every piece of early armor I found that was worth a damn was either garishly bright and shiny red, or a pale, half-assed pink. Jeez. But it's okay, because eventually you get dragon bone and dragon scales, so all is forgiven.

 

I'd like just one more button for combat. For example, the left bumper on the Xbone controller (which I used to mitigate the pooptastic PC controls). Make LB your final button for combat, effectively giving you two more abilities, and move the radial wheel to either left or right on the D-Pad. Two more abilities isn't going to ruin the tactical nature of combat, dudes, and it would be really nice for the players.

 

And lastly, I'd love a New Game Plus option. I really don't understand why that still hasn't been implemented in the Dragon Age games, because it would work really well and - most importantly - it would allow my Inquisitor to not look like a total boob for the first half of the game.

 

So all in all: I loved DA:I. It's right up there with (the fixed version of) ME3 for me, which will always hold a very special place in my heart. I haven't had this much fun playing a game since...well...ME3. So thank you, BioWare. I love you guys. You keep cranking out awesome games, and I'll keep buying them.

 

TL;DR: Really? Too long? It's a review. Shoo.

I guess AWESOME is one of those subjective words.


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I guess AWESOME is one of those subjective words.

But I'm guessing all the criticisms people have of the game are completely objective right?


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There's a wave of negativity going around, since more and more people have started getting the internet. They feel that just because they can voice their opinion, that it makes them important, and people that feel important, also feel the need to complain. They think something is owed to them, when they deserve nothing. They rush through games, just to come onto the game company's forum and complain about how "short" it was. They complain about bugs, yet, a lot of times, don't actually give specifics so that devs might be able to fix them, because they don't post to get them fixed, they post to complain. Anyone posting anything positive, is known as a butt kisser.

 

Take a look at this forum's post titles, then go take a look at a totally different game's forum, then another. Replace their game's titles with "Dragon Age Inquisition" and what do you see? The exact same posts. You've got internet terrorists threatening hacks because of what other players have done to them. You've got people yelling for a refund, after they've actually been playing 50+ hours. Heck, on Steam, you'll have people that have never even played the games, posting fake complaints.

 

I, for one, welcome something positive, BUT, it's not worth it, just posting something positive, you've already fed 50 trolls. Waiting to pounce on you when you post elsewhere. The internet world is crazy and full of hate, like that New York sewer from Ghost Busters.


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I guess AWESOME is one of those subjective words.

I'll answer this...

 

But I'm guessing all the criticisms people have of the game are completely objective right?

...with this. And then I'll point you to the parts where I made sure to reinforce that I was voicing my opinion. Which is obviously subjective.

 

There's a wave of negativity going around, since more and more people have started getting the internet. They feel that just because they can voice their opinion, that it makes them important, and people that feel important, also feel the need to complain. They think something is owed to them, when they deserve nothing. They rush through games, just to come onto the game company's forum and complain about how "short" it was. They complain about bugs, yet, a lot of times, don't actually give specifics so that devs might be able to fix them, because they don't post to get them fixed, they post to complain. Anyone posting anything positive, is known as a butt kisser.

 

Take a look at this forum's post titles, then go take a look at a totally different game's forum, then another. Replace their game's titles with "Dragon Age Inquisition" and what do you see? The exact same posts. You've got internet terrorists threatening hacks because of what other players have done to them. You've got people yelling for a refund, after they've actually been playing 50+ hours. Heck, on Steam, you'll have people that have never even played the games, posting fake complaints.

 

I, for one, welcome something positive, BUT, it's not worth it, just posting something positive, you've already fed 50 trolls. Waiting to pounce on you when you post elsewhere. The internet world is crazy and full of hate, like that New York sewer from Ghost Busters.

Yeah, I know. But I wasn't really posting it for them - I was posting it for BioWare, on the off chance that one of them saw it and took a little joy out of something positive for a change. The level of dickery on this forum alone has got to be all kinds of wearing on the psyche.


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But I have so far thoroughly enjoyed Dragon Age: Inquisition, and I'd like to express that to BioWare so they can see that not all the reviews are negative. 

A noble sentiment for those who actually did put a hell of a lot into this game... however Bioware doesn't read here.  :mellow: Unless they're all lurking and not telling us anything. Possible.


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DAI is definitely an improvement over DA2 in my opinion. It still doesn't match the quality of ME3 for me (which in my opinion, is Bioware's best work, and I'm very happy with the endings with the extended cut especially with Citadel), but overall I still love the game.

 

The PC controls still frustrate me especially during exploration (still no walk button or click to move but at least looting is easier with patch 2) but during combat it is, for the most part, acceptable. I also enjoy the no-healing-spell mechanic, adds a layer of attrition and also reminds me abit of BG's DnD system (you needed to rest to recharge spells). Tac cam is still a joke, tactics are still a joke, but it's still fun.

 

I'm also one of the lucky ones that has never had crashes/freezes (after I installed 14.11.2 beta drivers from AMD) and running it using windowed fullscreen mode. Either than that hilarious mixup with patch 2 since the hotfix it's running fine. Also I don't think it's really QA's fault, from looks of things the QA might have been testing the patch using new characters instead of saved characters - making it difficult for them to identify the issues in people's current savegames. They have been rushed to get the patch out after all yet it's quite stable from my experience.

 

On a roleplaying aspect though, DAO wins, tactics, DAO wins, PC accessibility/controls/UI, DAO wins. Story/gameplay, DAO still wins (my main criticism is the awkward introduction to the story, as well as the anticlimatic final battle). Characters though, DAO/DAI is on par. Dragon Age Origins remains the better game overall, but it also had years more development time.

 

All in all, I reckon this is a balanced review and the game does deserve praise where it's due.


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personally im okay with all the hate, because i know theyre the minority.



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The op im sure has seen me post around and knows im not in love with the game..lol

 

That said I respect your opinion. You liked the game and im happy for you.

 

But.....lol

 

How can you say this with a straight face??

"In my opinion, Dragon Age: Inquisition is the best of the Dragon Age games."

 

Isnt DA a rpg game series?

If so how can you say a game that had alot of its rpg elements ripped away, or widdled down to next to nothing, be the best of the series?

Sure it looks great and got some things right, and as a stand alone title would be an amazing game. But its not its own title, its a Dragon Age game.

The amount of customization to your character is next to none.

Your armor and weapons have been minimized to the most basic level.

Almost everything in the game besides the main story is a fetch quest. You cant even do your specializations without having to run around fetching things.

etc etc.

 

Thing with me is and the thing that pisses me of alot about gamers today is they will take whatever turd is handed to them by their favorite developers and eat it up and say thank you can i have another.

You cant look at DAI and see all its flaws and all that was taken away and act like you dont see it, or be ok with it. By being ok with it all your doing is saying to Bioware and EA is to keep half a@@ing things and giving me less and less, and im not only ok with it, but ill praise you for it.

 

Just because these companies tell ya how great these detractions are by using buzz words like "Streamlined", doesnt mean we have to buy into it. At some point we have to call them out on it.

Heck when was the last time you played an epic rpg and couldnt even divide out your stats?? Even ME with all that was taken out of that franchise didnt even go that far.

 

/rant off


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Some people also find DA2 better than DAO, and I also want to know what those people are on.

 

But hey, it's called opinions.


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There isn't enough of these Kinds of postings because Too many people are ENJOYING the game too much to go post anything on the forums. 

So the Threads get over ran with the ranters and ragers about how they could make a better game when they can't even make a game themselves. 

 

I always enjoy reading these Threads as they are the real gems being Voiced with Meaning. 

 

it's like an ex wife/husband that comes home and you went out of your way to clean the whole house, make a special meal that took 4 hours, wash the vehicles, pay the bills, cut the lawn, buy an expensive gift and then for them to only say "Hey, why didn't you do so and so" Rather then going "Wow, thank you for all that you did and all the effort you put in to do this FOR me. I appreciate it a lot, oh by the way so and so is broken, maybe we could fix that?"


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The op im sure has seen me post around and knows im not in love with the game..lol

 

That said I respect your opinion. You liked the game and im happy for you.

 

But.....lol

 

How can you say this with a straight face??

"In my opinion, Dragon Age: Inquisition is the best of the Dragon Age games."

 

Isnt DA a rpg game series?

If so how can you say a game that had alot of its rpg elements ripped away, or widdled down to next to nothing, be the best of the series?

Sure it looks great and got some things right, and as a stand alone title would be an amazing game. But its not its own title, its a Dragon Age game.

The amount of customization to your character is next to none.

Your armor and weapons have been minimized to the most basic level.

Almost everything in the game besides the main story is a fetch quest. You cant even do your specializations without having to run around fetching things.

etc etc.

 

Thing with me is and the thing that pisses me of alot about gamers today is they will take whatever turd is handed to them by their favorite developers and eat it up and say thank you can i have another.

You cant look at DAI and see all its flaws and all that was taken away and act like you dont see it, or be ok with it. By being ok with it all your doing is saying to Bioware and EA is to keep half a@@ing things and giving me less and less, and im not only ok with it, but ill praise you for it.

 

Just because these companies tell ya how great these detractions are by using buzz words like "Streamlined", doesnt mean we have to buy into it. At some point we have to call them out on it.

Heck when was the last time you played an epic rpg and couldnt even divide out your stats?? Even ME with all that was taken out of that franchise didnt even go that far.

 

/rant off

 

I just gotta say, Dragon Age Origins and Dragon Age 2 are still available to be played if Dragon Age Inquisition doesn't meet all your standards. This post was about "A POSITIVE REVIEW". you can try for once to do that hey? You have been on Several threads posting the same Crap, doesn't need to be brought here.

You're acting like the Guilty Criminal telling all his Criminal buddy's that the Judge gave you a stupid sentence because someone told you to shut up and that gave you the reason to assault them. Stop trying to justify your reason on every thread, Keep it on the Wine List please and thanks :)



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I just gotta say, Dragon Age Origins and Dragon Age 2 are still available to be played if Dragon Age Inquisition doesn't meet all your standards. This post was about "A POSITIVE REVIEW". you can try for once to do that hey? You have been on Several threads posting the same Crap, doesn't need to be brought here.

You're acting like the Guilty Criminal telling all his Criminal buddy's that the Judge gave you a stupid sentence because someone told you to shut up and that gave you the reason to assault them. Stop trying to justify your reason on every thread, Keep it on the Wine List please and thanks :)

Yes they are available, but I was promised a new Dragon Age and thats what I wanted. I also never said he couldnt have his positive review or his personal opinion, I just asked how he could ignore glaring issues.

And yes i have been posting around, because unlike some i dont want to see those issues swept under the rug and go unaddressed. This is a "feedback" for if i remember right. If people want to hate on me for pointing out flaws, then so be it. If you want to just sit here and say how great the game is, im sure there are places for that as well.


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The op im sure has seen me post around and knows im not in love with the game..lol

 

That said I respect your opinion. You liked the game and im happy for you.

 

But.....lol

 

How can you say this with a straight face??

"In my opinion, Dragon Age: Inquisition is the best of the Dragon Age games."

 

Isnt DA a rpg game series?

If so how can you say a game that had alot of its rpg elements ripped away, or widdled down to next to nothing, be the best of the series?

Sure it looks great and got some things right, and as a stand alone title would be an amazing game. But its not its own title, its a Dragon Age game.

The amount of customization to your character is next to none.

Your armor and weapons have been minimized to the most basic level.

Almost everything in the game besides the main story is a fetch quest. You cant even do your specializations without having to run around fetching things.

etc etc.

 

Thing with me is and the thing that pisses me of alot about gamers today is they will take whatever turd is handed to them by their favorite developers and eat it up and say thank you can i have another.

You cant look at DAI and see all its flaws and all that was taken away and act like you dont see it, or be ok with it. By being ok with it all your doing is saying to Bioware and EA is to keep half a@@ing things and giving me less and less, and im not only ok with it, but ill praise you for it.

 

Just because these companies tell ya how great these detractions are by using buzz words like "Streamlined", doesnt mean we have to buy into it. At some point we have to call them out on it.

Heck when was the last time you played an epic rpg and couldnt even divide out your stats?? Even ME with all that was taken out of that franchise didnt even go that far.

 

/rant off

Kudos!!

 

You really nailed it - Thank you so much!

 

Finally someone who speaks sense!

 

Well, how to put this? ... I have a brain ... I like my brain ... and I like to use it - intensely if possible!

Also I like to make use of my brain while playing (REAL) RPG's from time to time. Go figure! :whistle:

 

- Even though I mainly play on console! Yes, I know ... big mistake to admit that in midst of PC-enthusiasts! -

 

And I really hate it when companies go like:

"Ey Charlie, I have once met a guy that did not have a brain, while I was on a vacation trip last summer! Let's go make some games for people that don't have brains. They must be really easy targets ..."

 

And when I see people (who have brains...) who should feel like I do about this go like:

"DUUUDE - I am fine with that! ..."  and  "If it says RPG on the box - that's more than enough for me. It's very shiny and the development was very expensive! Who cares about the gameplay? ..."

 

I really don't know what to say anymore ... :crying:


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I just gotta say, Dragon Age Origins and Dragon Age 2 are still available to be played if Dragon Age Inquisition doesn't meet all your standards. This post was about "A POSITIVE REVIEW". you can try for once to do that hey? You have been on Several threads posting the same Crap, doesn't need to be brought here.

You're acting like the Guilty Criminal telling all his Criminal buddy's that the Judge gave you a stupid sentence because someone told you to shut up and that gave you the reason to assault them. Stop trying to justify your reason on every thread, Keep it on the Wine List please and thanks :)

He started to discuss a posting. You on the other hand were just rude, nothing more. But I guess that too is debatable for you ... Because only your opinion counts - because your the good guy here, right?

The game was sold as a RPG in the "Origins-style" - a "return to the roots". Discussing this is not hating! It means showing interest in someones opinion.

 

And being passinate about something you care for and just having an opinion of your own, is something human beings should practice when posting in forums ... If you are not willing to discuss with others, how can you get to the point of understanding each others views?

 

"Oh, right! Maybe it is best we just agree that all the others are indeed stupid and only our own opinions really count and we are the cool people and all the others are just sad sobs - RIGHT?!"

 

No offense - But standing for what you care for is not always a bad thing! Being honest is important in this forum. It is not bad!

This black and white bs will get us forumites nowhere ...

In this forum are written many opinions - most of them in different shades of grey! A million different shades of grey to be exact. But some people can only see black and white and immediately start screaming: Boogeyman, Boogeyman, ... KILL HIM! FLAY HIM ALIVE!

Very civilized ...                                         Thank you for that Jaizek - very civilized!

 

Take care, Jaizek! 

Yes they are available, but I was promised a new Dragon Age and thats what I wanted. I also never said he couldnt have his positive review or his personal opinion, I just asked how he could ignore glaring issues.

And yes i have been posting around, because unlike some i dont want to see those issues swept under the rug and go unaddressed. This is a "feedback" for if i remember right. If people want to hate on me for pointing out flaws, then so be it. If you want to just sit here and say how great the game is, im sure there are places for that as well.

Very true! I guess reading and reflecting is not for everyone ...

 

(And Jaizek is hating on pretty much anybody on the forums who dislikes or criticises the game! Offending people all over the place ...)

 

Take care, shadownian!



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DAI is definitely an improvement over DA2 in my opinion. It still doesn't match the quality of ME3 for me (which in my opinion, is Bioware's best work, and I'm very happy with the endings with the extended cut especially with Citadel), but overall I still love the game.

 

The extended cut DLC and the Citadel DLC made ME3 so much better, an amazing game :wub:

I hope a future patch/DLC/expansion pack will 'fix' Inquisition, it's also an amazing game in a lot of ways, but at the same time it's lacking severely in certain areas (tactics, character build, PC controls, etc.).

 

At the moment I do not share the same opinion as the OP (prob. never will since the review mentions a controller and a 2-handed sword, which is def. more fun than what I experience with a mouse/keyboard crying over the lack of options as a mage), but with future changes to Inquisition? Yeah, I might agree more with the OP ;)


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The extended cut DLC and the Citadel DLC made ME3 so much better, an amazing game :wub:
I hope a future patch/DLC/expansion pack will 'fix' Inquisition, it's also an amazing game in a lot of ways, but at the same time it's lacking severely in certain areas (tactics, character build, PC controls, etc.).
 
At the moment I do not share the same opinion as the OP (prob. never will since the review mentions a controller and a 2-handed sword, which is def. more fun than what I experience with a mouse/keyboard crying over the lack of options as a mage), but with future changes to Inquisition? Yeah, I might agree more with the OP ;)

I felt the same about ME3! Awesome DLC's - Citadel especially!
 
And if Bioware can pull a rabbit out of the hat with DLC's for Inquisition - I would love them forever :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wizard: :wizard: :wizard: :wizard:
But I believe in that sort of stuff, when it is there ...

Which means - currently - I am a bit disgruntled and have given up hope for the most part. But as we humans are ... hope dies last! 
 
(Which leaves me in ... "The waiting place. For people just waiting.")  

 

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Hey, OP! Can you edit your post and mention that there are spoilers - though minor - in your post? I was curious what you had to say so I read it and learned some things I hadn't learned through playin the game. Good review. But a warning would be nice, please. :)

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If so how can you say a game that had alot of its rpg elements ripped away, or widdled down to next to nothing, be the best of the series?

 

Though not the op, I can give you an easy answer to that.

 

I simply don't care if I can assign attribute points. I don't care about tactics, at least not to the extent that lack of options bothers me in any way. And I disagree with your assessment that there are barely any customisation options when it comes to weapons and armor, quite to the contrary - although I do in fact find the lack of different armor models to be somewhat frustrating. I also very mich disagree with your statement about quests only being fetch quests. It's just not true. Not by a far stretch, unless you define any quest that has you do stuff for some NPC to be a fetch quest. Which is... well, I'll leave it at that.

 

Basically, what I care about in a game, be it rpg or anything else, is wether the game is fun. Dragon Age: Inquisition is tremendous fun - for me. I don't know if I have more fun playing DA:I than I had DA:O, but then again, it doesn't really matter, does it? It's not without its flaws, sure, some classical rpg features have been taken away, but you know what? I simply don't care. Because I've already dumped more than a hundred hours into the game and still enjoying myself.


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Though not the op, I can give you an easy answer to that.

 

I simply don't care if I can assign attribute points. I don't care about tactics, at least not to the extent that lack of options bothers me in any way. And I disagree with your assessment that there are barely any customisation options when it comes to weapons and armor, quite to the contrary - although I do in fact find the lack of different armor models to be somewhat frustrating. I also very mich disagree with your statement about quests only being fetch quests. It's just not true. Not by a far stretch, unless you define any quest that has you do stuff for some NPC to be a fetch quest. Which is... well, I'll leave it at that.

 

Basically, what I care about in a game, be it rpg or anything else, is wether the game is fun. Dragon Age: Inquisition is tremendous fun - for me. I don't know if I have more fun playing DA:I than I had DA:O, but then again, it doesn't really matter, does it? It's not without its flaws, sure, some classical rpg features have been taken away, but you know what? I simply don't care. Because I've already dumped more than a hundred hours into the game and still enjoying myself.

Thats fine, nobody is saying not to enjoy it. But the game was sold as a RPG, not a action game with RPG elements thrown in. Also after the debacle that was DA2 they said they would make it up to the fans this game by not doing exactly what we are complainig about. Stripping away options and RPG elements.

 

If they wanted to promote this as a Dragon Age action adventure game, I dont think people would hav comp[lained nearly a much. But they didnt, and so here we are.



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I'm going to leave this here, because I feel like there's a lot of undeserved hate going around.

 

When you start a review with what amounts to "only positive reviews matter because haters gonna hate," you sort of prove an inability to be objective.



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"Darrah said Inquisition's team consists of many BioWare veterans who worked on Origins as well as some of the company's fresh talent. He said the upcoming entry features a new Frostbite 2-based engine that will facilitate a more expansive world, better visuals, more meaningful player choices, improved tactical combat and greater customization. In other words, it'll expand on everything fans loved about the first Dragon Age."(this was 2 years into development)

 

This is the type of thing people were expecting. An expansion on what made DAO great. Customization, choice,and an impactful story and choices.. Things people complained about IN DA2.(among others)

Which was not was was delivered.

So as was said, it may be a decent game if taken on its own merits, but when you were expecting Dragon Age 3, and a great bounce back to form from DA2, you can see why people are not happy.


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The extended cut DLC and the Citadel DLC made ME3 so much better, an amazing game :wub:

I hope a future patch/DLC/expansion pack will 'fix' Inquisition, it's also an amazing game in a lot of ways, but at the same time it's lacking severely in certain areas (tactics, character build, PC controls, etc.).

 

At the moment I do not share the same opinion as the OP (prob. never will since the review mentions a controller and a 2-handed sword, which is def. more fun than what I experience with a mouse/keyboard crying over the lack of options as a mage), but with future changes to Inquisition? Yeah, I might agree more with the OP ;)

 

Aye, I'm also hoping for future changes (personally though tactics/build/controls should have been in there to begin with! heh), like maybe a DLC to add in an origins-style introduction to your Inquisitor? Or something to flesh out the final battle. Either of those I would buy. The game is complete as it is and I'm satisfied with the story, but it could become epic!


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But I'm guessing all the criticisms people have of the game are completely objective right?

Look at it from the players that experienced freezes and crashes. Don't forget those that have high and systems or those that bought new gear just to play the game (I'm one of them) only to experience video stuttering... video stuttering! Or trying to read super small fonts! The latter group, btw, paid more than the $60 to play this game.

 

I'm sure you remember those painfull chalkboard screeches in the classroom. Those reactions are objective, yes? Do you blame them for that reaction? Same with the reactions when experiencing freezing and crashing... ad nauseam..



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Hey, OP! Can you edit your post and mention that there are spoilers - though minor - in your post? I was curious what you had to say so I read it and learned some things I hadn't learned through playin the game. Good review. But a warning would be nice, please. :)

I've noticed in this and other forums, that many are subject to negative reactions when reading "a spoiler". They complain. Rather than avoiding the forums (ie: not reading), these individuals keep reading and complaining (on reading "spoilers").

 

As I have no such negative reactions, I find complaints humourus. The allegory, here, is someone that touches a hot stove, complains it's hot, then goes back to this wonderfull looking stove and touches it again. :blink: