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[Angloassassin]

Board and bring us ten undead Galls! Hey Warden, look at the Warden fortress, its yours now, and now its closed again, but you still have the courtyard!! But no worries, you get another one in the addon (not the main game), you can upgrade it so Oghren might survive off-screen!! Oh, and don't forget to find all ten love-letters scattered across the world! And the ten garnets! And the ten deep mushrooms! And the four Blackstone-contacts! And maybe one day if you are finished there is also that Darkspawn issue, but its okay, just take your time ...

 

And I don't really care if it is a "not a PC" game "not made for PC" or whatever, as long as I enjoy it, which I do...That's woot I think! Rosetinted glasses everywhere *mumbles like an old fart and vanishes in the distances*

 

You stop being so wonderful, I work really hard to hoard my likes - Dag Nabbit!

[Nerevar-as]

Really? How so? Just so we're on the same page, I mean the speed characters move and attack, not the length of battles. I liked that they sped it up in DA2, but didn't like the cartoony flying around. The exception would be 2 handed weapons in Origins. It made it look like they were swinging something really heavy.

Combat in Origins had the right speed for the mechanics involved. Later on, with the ultra fast speed and asymetrical enemies, all it manages is to show how bad the AI is. Most of my deaths in Inquisition have been for some party member doing what s/he shouldn´t, or split second delays this combat system can´t afford. Yeah, Oririgns had htem too, such as the infamous shuffling, but didn´t usually result in a reload. Also, Origins had a few better animations, with parries and finishers. Now it´s just swinging wildly until one falls.

[Nerevar-as]

Now with DA:I they learned their lessons. DA:I has a good story, it has good characters, it does have relatively good graphics and a decent enough combat system.

What? Getting repeatedly killed by inept AI or command delayscombat  mechanics can´t afford is decent? Only improvement over DAII is not every combat consists of being zerg rushed five times in a row.

[Lucky Thirteen]

If they made a DA:Origins 2, you people would be completely unhappy about everything. Nothing will be how you wanted it at all and it won't give you that feeling you had the first time you played Origins.  

[AtreiyaN7]

No thanks, but maybe you can try Kickstarter for your apparent need to remain stuck in the past? The pacing in DA:I may have needed tweaking, and some more main story-related content would have been good, but that is something they can probably improve upon in the future. This sort of request/demand seems a bit silly because BioWare is very clearly never going back to the combat mechanics of DA:O, etc.

[AlanC9]

What? Getting repeatedly killed by inept AI or command delayscombat  mechanics can´t afford is decent? Only improvement over DAII is not every combat consists of being zerg rushed five times in a row.

Are you actually having that much trouble, or is this a bit of hyperbole?

[luism]

 
Yahtzee says it best about why DA:I is better then both DA2 and DA:O

He does a good job of owning da I. The only thing he could say negative about origins is the story.

[ORTesc]

If they made a DA:Origins 2, you people would be completely unhappy about everything. Nothing will be how you wanted it at all and it won't give you that feeling you had the first time you played Origins.  

 

I've played (and beat) Origins probably more than any other PC game I've ever played. So much so that I've lost count. In fact, as soon as I beat Inquisition, I immediately made another run through Origins. It's not about nostalgia or that "first time playing". Origins is simply a good RPG that gives the player a sense of choice and consequences. And I honestly believe that going back to the roots of this series, possibly with improved combat, would be highly recieved by both the community and newcomers alike. If Divinity: Original Sin can sell as well as it has in 2014, there's a definite place in this industry for CRPGs.

[SofaJockey]

Is this thread still rambling on?

 

Next game:

• BioWare please make DA4 (not DAO:2)
• Build on what you did well in DAI
• Listen to (but don't be bound by) the fan feedback
• And then make the best game you can

[ORTesc]

 

Is this thread still rambling on?

 

 

Yes, people are communicating their opinions here. You know, like the rest of the internet?

[Cyonan]

I've played (and beat) Origins probably more than any other PC game I've ever played. So much so that I've lost count. In fact, as soon as I beat Inquisition, I immediately made another run through Origins. It's not about nostalgia or that "first time playing". Origins is simply a good RPG that gives the player a sense of choice and consequences. And I honestly believe that going back to the roots of this series, possibly with improved combat, would be highly recieved by both the community and newcomers alike. If Divinity: Original Sin can sell as well as it has in 2014, there's a definite place in this industry for CRPGs.

 

Lets say that at Redcliffe I use blood magic to enter the fade and sacrifice isolde, then make a deal with the desire demon.

 

What consequences do I have to pay for that later in the game?

 

I'm seriously asking, because I've never taken that option.

[funmachine]

Lets say that at Redcliffe I use blood magic to enter the fade and sacrifice isolde, then make a deal with the desire demon.

 

What consequences do I have to pay for that later in the game?

 

I'm seriously asking, because I've never taken that option.

 

Alistair disapproves -10

[Kallas_br123]

Alistair disapproves -10

hahaha gold... that's a meaningful decision right there.

[AlanC9]

Lets say that at Redcliffe I use blood magic to enter the fade and sacrifice isolde, then make a deal with the desire demon.
 
What consequences do I have to pay for that later in the game?
 
I'm seriously asking, because I've never taken that option.

Not even Alistair disapproves of learning blood magic; he disapproves of sacrificing Isolde whatever you do in the Fade.

You don't even have to make the deal, since you can just reload after unlocking the spec and it stays unlocked.

[Lotto]

DAO lovers, are in the minority now.

 

I don't think so.  Bioware just doesn't give a ****.

[k1rage]

I dont know if they should remake it but....

 

How freakin awesome was DA:O

 

I'll always remember it fondly and parts of me dont want it remade

[Cyonan]

Not even Alistair disapproves of learning blood magic; he disapproves of sacrificing Isolde whatever you do in the Fade.

You don't even have to make the deal, since you can just reload after unlocking the spec and it stays unlocked.

 

I was looking for some kind of actual consequence to making the deal and not reloading, which even if Alistair did disapprove of learning Blood Magic you can spam him with so many gifts that it doesn't matter anyway.

 

Origins does have a few things with proper consequence(the "crisis moment" for each companion comes to mind), but the majority of the choices in the game you seem to never hear about again in Origins or you get a slightly different NPC on the final mission.

 

That's how my experience with the game went: plenty of choice but very little real consequence. If people like ORTesc want to claim that the game has a sense of "choice and consequence" then I'd love to know exactly what consequences those are =P

[dekarserverbot]

Well, that's the thing. We don't agree on what was successful about Origins. I don't think the voiced protagonist took anything away, and I'm wholly indifferent to playing dolly-dress-up with the companions.

 

don't be a fool it's not dolly dress up but the fact that hawke kept getting the wrong armors and you could not lend them to your companions, also I kept getting stuff for isabella in ACT 3 and she was no longer in my team... is not about letting girls run in their bday suits is about USELESS GEAR

[Fullmetall21]

What I really miss from Origins, was specifically that the Origins. I was so excited for DAI to bring back race and thought, perhaps they'd bring that feature back. Nope. You can only be a Human Noble, You can Only be a Dalish Elf, you can only be a Carta Dwarf.

 

In Origins, you could be a Dalish Elf of any class, or you could be a City Elf. You could be an Elf in a circle, or you could be an Elf in an Alienage.

 

In Origins you could be a common Human, noble Human, etc.

 

It would have been awesome to add this in and add sequences BEFORE THE Conclave.

 

Such as your Lavelan Keeper choosing you to spy on the Conclave. Shows the journey to the Conclave, Dragon Age Inquisition title pops up when you see the Conclave or screen goes black, THEN the explosion.

 

Just give me a tie to this world.

 

Make me care.

 

Make me feel like I was living in this world before the Herald and Inquisitor business. Much like Origins did.

 

City elf and Alienage elf are the same, commoner human was never a thing you could only be a human noble. Plus we did know about the whole no origins stories long before launch. Having dragon age repeat it self over and over would make it like CoD. CoD found a recipe that works and keeps using that over and over guess everyone likes it now...oh wait.

 

And I think origins are much more well done in Inquisition rather than Origins. People actually acknowledge your Origin on more than one occasion or for the first 1 hour of the game. Don't get me wrong I really like the human and dwarf noble origins which in my opinion were the only ones that mattered at some point later in the game, maybe not so much but still.

 

The only notable difference i noticed with Origins stories was I wanted to kill Howe and I wanted to kill Behleen or whatshisname that's pretty much it. Dalish elf origin was really weak with no motivation or difference other than Shianni going "oh you came for us" literally 2 hours before you finish the game and the mage origin was only good because of the boon. I would like to see them return but I won't cry that they are gone.

 

EDIT : As for what the consequences are in origins notably different npcs at the end and this is the most important one SLIDES. Yes that's most likely what people talk about Origins has more slides at the end with a description of every single little choice you made. Thing is if they did that with Inquisition the epilogue alone would be close to 2 hours. 

[pdusen]

He does a good job of owning da I. The only thing he could say negative about origins is the story.

 

Er... what are you on about? By Yahtzee's standards, he gave DAI a glowing endorsement.

[SomeUsername]

Yes Bioware, how dare you try to improve on a game and move on from past successes. God forbid that you actually try to experiment with different formulas and make each new game fresh even if brilliant sales aren't assured.

 

No, we want you to become COD, make a good game, then resale that game with slightly different graphics, again and again and again...

Is DAI an improvement? Everything is dumbed down, barely creating an imagine of this "RPG with decisions&consequences". I can't even finish my 2nd playthrough, because there is nothing new and the only thing I missed from my first playthrough were the countless sidequests that I tried not to bother with. I get the "personal preference" thing, but I can't understand the side that says "DAI was an improvement of the first one".

[luism]

Er... what are you on about? By Yahtzee's standards, he gave DAI a glowing endorsement.

Either way he owned it and most of what he says is being said in this thread.

[Cyonan]

Either way he owned it and most of what he says is being said in this thread.

 

It's Yahtzee, of course he owned it.

 

He owned Dragon Age Origins too in that review.

 

He owns 99% of games that he reviews. That's his thing.

[Robert Cousland]

Dear OP, shut up.

[AlanC9]

don't be a fool it's not dolly dress up but the fact that hawke kept getting the wrong armors and you could not lend them to your companions, also I kept getting stuff for isabella in ACT 3 and she was no longer in my team... is not about letting girls run in their bday suits is about USELESS GEAR

Not sure if serious.

It's useless gear? So sell it.