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[Enesia]

After playing my Dalish elf mage, Enesia, *cough* 

 

I wanted to get the game perspective as a circle mage. So I make myself a decent human, considering the circles slightly disbanded and considering the background they gave me I made his face skinny and slim.

 

Start in game walking to the breach and I remember the comment that people made about elves being to damn skinny. Well Human Male Inquisitor is disgusting. The only way I see playing Male Human Inquisitor is as a warrior. He has to broad of shoulders, not even Cullen is that huge and muscular. None of the humans are that huge, broad and muscular.

 

I'm a mage. I haven't been lifting weights. I was going for this whole scholarly look and it was completely ruined by the body builder look the human male was going for. So now I will never be able to play a circle mage as a human male. 

 

The problem I have with the female characters is the makeup slider, if I put it to noticeable in game she looks like a clown. If I put it to far back she looks like she's wearing no makeup at all even though I put makeup on her. 

[ORTesc]

I actually made it through my first play through as a human male archer. Wasn't that bad. But yea, I could see where cloth would be an issue. Female characters I usually leave without make up. Women look better without paint all over their face anyway (imo obviously).

[Enesia]

I actually made it through my first play through as a human male archer. Wasn't that bad. But yea, I could see where cloth would be an issue. Female characters I usually leave without make up. Women look better without paint all over their face anyway (imo obviously).

 

I like subtle amount of makeup. But Bioware couldn't even manage that without it looking invisible.

 

The other issue is I play Skyrim, Dragon's Dogma, etc. I use the makeup, when done right in a CC, on males as a way to enhance their bruising under the eyes. Adding some pink to the flesh, make them feel well older, or tired, etc. In any other game it works. Except in DAI, he actually looked like he was wearing makeup and I chose a color, complexion, and rightness of pink in the CC at least to look like bruising. Nope. In game it looked like makeup. I was so mad. It took me forever, to get that down right and good. 

[Meatbaggins]

I think the human mages look fine, but I had the same issue trying to play a male Qunari mage.

[Enesia]

I think the human mages look fine, but I had the same issue trying to play a male Qunari mage.

 

I don't. A Mage Isn't Suppose to have a Six Pack.

 

I'm a scholar.

 

I grew up in solitude working on magic. I am going to be a tiny little dude.

[FrontlinerDelta]

Male Qunari is even worse... it looks ridiculous. Those shoulders too broad, even the Arishok wasn't that wide...

[Jayce]

I don't. A Mage Isn't Suppose to have a Six Pack.
 
I'm a scholar.
 
I grew up in solitude working on magic. I am going to be a tiny little dude.

Depends really. Despite what gym rats would have you believe, body build has more to do with nutrition than execise. A well fed circle mage could easily be taller and broader than a poorly fed common labourer in Thedas.

[Arbiter156]

^^ true

[Enesia]

Depends really. Despite what gym rats would have you believe, body build has more to do with nutrition than execise. A well fed circle mage could easily be taller and broader than a poorly fed common labourer in Thedas.

 

The Male Human Inquisitor is disgusting to look at. He's so cliche, typical hero, big body builder shape.

 

And it doesn't fit the faces types I go for. Which are bruised, imperfect characters, with facial flaws. So the big body builder shape, betrays the whole haggard, tired, scholar I was going for.

[Shechinah]

Well, maybe the Ostwick Circle was really dedicated to physical health and work outs was mandatory? 

[Enesia]

Well, maybe the Ostwick Circle was really dedicated to physical health and work outs was mandatory? 

 

The point I am trying to make is, IDC if the other races, like Elf, Qunari and Dwarves bodies are set in stone. That's fine, lore wise it's fine. But since humans can be so various, as we see so many various sized NPCs, give the humans body shapes or a body slider.

 

I do not like muscular mages. I don't. I didn't like it in TES, I wouldn't accept it in Dragon's Dogma so I didn't build my body that way, etc. 

 

I do not really like muscular humans to begin with either.

 

In Skyrim, my warriors are all lean, not super muscular, with broad shoulders, and my rogues are also lean.

 

My mages are always kind of on the skinny scraggily side.

 

I understand the thing about the elves, dwarves, and qunari. But humans being the various race they are could have been given a basic body slider. 

[AshesEleven]

It was kinda weird, but I just chalked it up to magical musculature, oooooooo, magic.

[Yaslana]

I think its sad we have no Cc for our Inquisitors body...
I mean, so many asia mmos lets you create your chars body, and they make the armor fit.
Why can't we change our Quis body?
I don't want my FemQuis breasts to be so big, just a nice hand full. In every cutscene I stare at her beasts cuz they literally jump at you...

So yeah I understand you. :-/

[Navasha]

Keep working on the makeup sliders.   It takes a bit of practice to get them where they look good.   The key is stop moving the color slider all the way to the extreme.   Keep it in the bottom middle.   Also know that the makeup is about 10x brighter in the game than in the CC.  So make it how you want it to look in the CC and then turn down the intensity about 2-3 notches.

 

Bioware's biggest problem with their CC is that they never have good lighting in that CC 'room'.   The Hawke CC is just completely terrible. 

[LordOfScorn]

A mage that trains in mock combat day in and day out isn't going to be that scrawny. Plus, physical activities such as walking around the tower (I remember orgins and the going up and down and all around in that place) constantly and practicing spells and patterns. You could just have good genes, etc. It's easy to make a roleplay reason for it and not all wizards are/have to be frail. Quite the opposite, I'd say in the land of Thedas, where physical activities seem a constant way of life. One is bound to be in decent shape in this world.

 

And while the human male is in decent shape and build, I wouldn't say he's a beefcake. At least on my archer he didn't seem so or overly big.

[Degenerate Rakia Time]

i really hate this "all mages are weaklings" stereotype, i prefer mages who will first beat the crap out of you and then set you on fire, and then they'll bench press your corpse

[StrangeStrategy]

Nah screw that, my Knight-Enchanter spent most of his time training with Templars with swords instead of reading books and studying crap. That's my awesome backstory. I hate the stereotype that all mages are whimps who (for some reason) can only wear silk and can't bench their own bodyweight without magic help. As far as I know, having magic doesn't mean you have to be mentally superior and physically whimpy.

 

But if you think about it: You're a circle mage. You have access to uninterrupted long hours of sleep, proper nutrition, exercise isn't prohibited, and I imagine the Circle doesn't over-feed its mages, so no fat mages. In other words, your mage body has everything it needs to build muscle, with all the walking and fighting your mages do it makes complete sense that mages have muscle mass.

Also, some circles had Physical Education classes, or at least Ferelden had it for some time until Anders ruined it.

[Lebanese Dude]

I sense a lot of twinks in this thread.

 

First of all, humans on Thedas don't have to mirror real human anatomy. For all we know, they are naturally more muscular.

If we were to ignore the fantasy notion, one has to remember a couple of things:

 

1) Mages have better living conditions than the average Thedosian human. They have better nutrition, which as the saying goes is 90% of the entire muscle development process.

 

2) Mages are fully capable of training as any warrior. Only the Fereldan circle stopped allowing mages to train in weapons. Even so, full body exercises that can be performed anywhere are all you need to develop  a medium-thick body size. This means push-ups, pull-ups, sit-ups, crunches, burpies, get-ups, etc...You don't need dumbells and barbells at all unless you going for bodybuilding. What's to stop mages from making their own make-shift weights anyway?

 

3) Humans come in different general body shapes. Mesomorphs are naturally muscular and develop quite quickly. 

 

So why must a well-fed, fully functional, mesomorph human male not be muscular?

 

Implying all mages should be scrawny is odd. While I agree they shouldn't ever be more buff than warriors, that's just the body type limitation at work. 

 

 

 

 

 

Now let me go back to gawking at my hot inquisitor.

[Angloassassin]

Not to mention, Certain conversations with the Ferelden Circle Mages in DA:O, DA:A and some of the DLC's, let you know they do run often, sometimes they get to swim, and I'm certain they find other uses of their time for general training. They do lug around tomes all the time.

[Spankatola]

I like subtle amount of makeup. But Bioware couldn't even manage that without it looking invisible.

 

I managed it. You just have to play with it a bit. The trick is to pick the look you want and drop the intensity one or two notches below where it looks good in the CC.

[Pi2r Epsilon]

i really hate this "all mages are weaklings" stereotype, i prefer mages who will first beat the crap out of you and then set you on fire, and then they'll bench press your corpse

Time for you to read Glen Cook's Black Company series then, if you haven't already!

[Angloassassin]

Or Hard Magic, I really liked that series.

[Adynata]

I usually avoid make up because the fempc always ends up looking like a clown, but I actually liked how it came out on my dalish elf inquisitor because it complimented the face tattoo (whatever that thing is called).