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[Kaiser Arian XVII]

So which country you predict will be the #1 major economical and technological power of the world in 2050s?

 

Which will be in top 5 or 10?

[Voxr]

Well I plan to be supreme leader by 2029 and and all countries will be called "Voxtopia" so....

 

 

 

Also our patron/country animal will be this dancing penguin.

 

[TheClonesLegacy]

Sealand.

[ObserverStatus]

Perhaps Mexico? They have all the land and the natural resources they need to become a superpower, along with a young population.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

If India ever gets it's act together, it should be them.

[Wires_From_The_Wall]

China or India I guess. For people living in these countries, it can be meaningful for following reasons:

-  Great deal of wealth, happiness and opportunity if you live among the elite

- Bragging rights in Internet forums if you are not among elite.

 

 

List of like..top 5 countries where Technological/Economical power translates  as quality-of-life, services and other assets for normal people to wield prolly remains the same in 2050 as it is today:Hunk of EU countries of Northern Europe plus Norway.

[Inquisitor Recon]

Hopefully the empire I intend to create.

[RobRam10]

Hopefully the empire I intend to create.

Your Imperium of Man?

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Computational technology will still be the US.

Economy will probably be China.

 

Maybe. If China can keep up his economy this way.

Indeed, other countries just suck right now and Oily countries are finished as soon as they run out of it. Only Saudi Arabia can continue to flourish in economy thanks to the pilgrims and possibly UAE and Iran for their investment in technology.

 

But Technology superiority can go anywhere (not just California).

[NeonFlux117]

Pax Americana will continue well into the 22nd and even 23rd centuries. 

 

So America will remained unchallenged as the worlds only Super Power. 

 

Global Powers will continue to be China, Japan, Germany with the addition of Brazil and maybe India. Maybe. 

 

 

America is almost a hyper power, but we do not abide by the Conquest Doctrine, (we're nice). If we did we would be the next Rome, because military there is no one in the same league let alone sphere. And the Conquest Doctrine hinges on Power Projection, which the US has a ton off. But.... so does EU. The EU is quite powerful. And maybe even more influential than America economically. 

 

China is a paper tiger. Their military is old and under trained and undisciplined, they have some good technology but only 1 aircraft carrier to America's 11. 

 

 

If you really want to see how Powerful America really is. Visit a site called, "Global Firepower" it is.... Illuminating. 

 

 

So..... Much will stay the same, with Russia and Brazil and possibly India making jumps. 

[Wires_From_The_Wall]

^ China already makes  the largest economy in the world. (I guess they can be dismissed though, because their military so old. ;o)  Even so, there is no question USA wouldn't still  have a great deal of things to list in cawk ring posts like these. So by all means keep counting them naval carriers!
 

[Master Race]

China's housing bubble is set to explode before then. They are building entire ghost cities that nobody is going to live in. Of course they have the world's largest economy, they have the world's largest population and reforms after mao made it more like western countries capitalism. The standard of living/wealth gap is still horrendous compared to the U.S.

 

US will remain top technological super power in 2050, at least in certain sectors. China will be on par with the US if something is not done about cyber theft. The truth is the best of China today comes from stolen secrets and it will continue in the future. They have little actual innovation and if they are  cut from US secrets (which is unlikely unless the US invests heavily in cyber defense) they will find themselves unable to keep up with powers like India and South Korea.

 

The US military will remain unchallenged in conventional warfare. There is a lot of fear mongering that China is rising and soon to be as powerful as the US military but it's untrue. It's just used by military hawks to convince Americans we still need a massive budget.  People think Russia is on par with the US but just look at them in Ukraine. Russian trained special forces have possibly already lost more lives in Ukraine then the US has in both Iraq and Afghanistan wars (including when we toppled the 4th largest army in the world, Iraq).US military technology will also remain unchallenged. There are whole arsenal of weapons never shown to the world that would be used only in a real war. US dominance in militarizing space will continue.

 

The US will still be the world's super power in 2050 but we don't know how far it's influence will truly stretch. If the west's strategy in Russia works and the anti-west regime is toppled in similar style to Soviet Union (history is repeating itself. Soviet invasion of Afghanistan=Russian invasion of Ukraine. Oil prices down) and growing anti-american EU mindsets makes it entirely possible for a never before though of US-China true partnership which would bring the world to it's knees.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

China doesn't need nor want war. They're in a precarious position right now with the way that they're country is modernising. They will flex their muscles and bully smaller countries out of profitable enterprises (sea drilling, mining contracts, etc) then fold if serious pressure is applied because what they need is stability and strong governance to properly pull the country into the developed world. Their growth is starting to slow down, and the prosperity it's supposedly bringing them may not be long lasting. So anything approaching conventional war would not be in their best interests.

 

We're starting to see Russia fail to do the same. They push on Ukraine when they can because it galvanises the voter base, but the sanctions and the plummeting oil price is doing their heads in. Economically, Russia is not doing as well as expected. Russia's economy is not that big, and their economy still relies on the production of oil to prosper. That's why they (and the Chinese) were so eager to scoop up all the oil and pipeline contracts in Iraq under the USA's noses. Saudi Arabia is America's ace in the hole in that particular game and one they're playing very well. Why else does no media outlet or politician (outside of maybe AJ) speak of the rampant misogyny, human rights abuse, racism and religious extremism that fosters in Saudi Arabia as a result of the ruling class? Not so much because America needs Saudi for oil specifically (though that is part of it), but because the Saudis can be used as a weapon to hurt other countries with it.

 

The thing is we haven't seen a weak spot with which to exploit China yet. Which is where I think India may play a key role. The US loves to fight proxy wars, and if India get their **** together, they are a chance to capitalise.

[NeonFlux117]

Communistic Nations will always fall nor ever rise to their true potential. China and Russia will never reach their precipice of potential because of this. Russia had their shot, they were a Super Power, until the Alpha Super Power took them down. They will never. NEVER be as influential or powerful as they were during the Cold War. 

 

And again, China is a paper tiger. And they have major socioeconomic issues and income disparities that the US does not have nor any other developed first world nation. 

 

They do have purchasing power. But.... They also have 1.35 billion people, the majority of which lives in poverty. 

[NeonFlux117]

No. 82 percent of China's population live below the poverty line of the US. (income of 10,00 US$ or less per year)

 

Only 14 percent of the people in the US live below the US poverty line. 

[Wires_From_The_Wall]

Communistic Nations will always fall nor ever rise to their true potential. China and Russia will never reach their precipice of potential because of this. Russia had their shot, they were a Super Power, until the Alpha Super Power took them down. They will never. NEVER be as influential or powerful as they were during the Cold War. 

 

And again, China is a paper tiger. And they have major socioeconomic issues and income disparities that the US does not have nor any other developed first world nation. 

 

They do have purchasing power. But.... They also have 1.35 billion people, the majority of which lives in poverty. 

 

Russia has not been (part of) a communist nation during this century.

 

Economic/Corporate side of China is a machine that has it's cogs turning in pretty  ultra capitalistic fashion actually. This does not mean it had completely  stopped being a communist nation. It does mean Chinese communism is so different, complex and multi-layered construct that it is little naive to have such dismissive " fail cause of communism, lol" approach to it. 

 

When it comes to income disparities, and this is according to a CIA study, China actually has - less - people living below national poverty line than USA. (China: 13%, USA 15% ) 

 

 

 

No. 82 percent of China's population live below the poverty line of the US. (income of 10,00 US$ or less per year)

 

Only 14 percent of the people in the US live below the US poverty line. 

 

 

You yourself spoke of income disparity. How on earth does it matter to a Chinese if they live above or below poverty line of some other country? Different nation. Different economy. Less Chinese people are poor in China than USA has Amurican people poor in Amurica.

 

I guess like 75% of Chinese are wealthy if measured by Erithrean poverty standards. So I guess they are pretty rich now? Whoa, I think I just cured China of poverty. Nobel prize will look pretty cool on my  forum sig. I can do it for USA too if you like. Then you can add " no poor people!" right  next to that "11 naval carriers" ****** line!

[NeonFlux117]

Wires, you are glib. To say Putin is not a communist dictator is..... Well. That's interesting. 

 

 

When one doesn't have money and is in poverty your lot in life is less than if you did have money and were not in poverty. 

 

When in poverty you have limited or no access to education, much less secondary education. No health care. No movement of socioeconomic status. You are stuck in the gutter. 

 

When a society has a population stuck in the gutter they will never move up and play with the big boys.

 

It's really quite simple. 

 

 

 

Also.... The 1 aircraft carrier to 11. 

 

Is a BIG deal. I'm not gonna give you crash course on how important a Navy is to any and all past superpowers, but suffice it to say it's a game changer. 

 

 

The US and UK are the only Blue Water Navy's in the world. Meaning.... They can patrol well past their own borders. 

 

 

The US Navy patrols.... 90 percent of the world shipping lanes. 

 

 

Meaning.... In say a World War Scenario. 

 

 

WE OWN ALL THE WORLDS SH!T. 

 

 

WE CONFISCATE IT. OR WE SINK IT. 

 

WE WIN. GAME OVER. 

 

 

And the rest of the world knows it. That's why no one steps up to us or even attempts to compete. 

 

 

It's futile. 

[Sir DeLoria]

China is powerful thanks to its capability, but I think people overestimate its economic stability and strength. China is a huge financial bubble that won't stop growing, there's a lot of dissatisfaction in the population, its image in the world is very negative and the economy is vitally dependent on the US and other Western countries. If our economies fail, so does China's.

[Wires_From_The_Wall]

Wires, you are glib. To say Putin is not a communist dictator is..... Well. That's interesting. 

 

 

If you claimed him Imperialistic, or even Fascist..sure, there'd be a conversation in that. To persistently claim him a ' communist dictator '  makes me wonder about your education. I don't necessarily even mean school as much as the soil you are exposing yourself to.

Is this like Fox News reality? Or one  some radio shout caster provides?

 

 

 

When one doesn't have money and is in poverty your lot in life is less than if you did have money and were not in poverty. 

 

When in poverty you have limited or no access to education, much less secondary education. No health care. No movement of socioeconomic status. You are stuck in the gutter. 

 

That's just the thing. It isn't a simple matter at all. Plenty of poor countries actually have pretty evolved health care or education system. Some of richer countries have health care and education growing increasingly horrifying and exclusive.

 

 

Using and wielding military power in modern world  makes a pretty complex matter. To realize this, you don't have to look further than actual long term results of the military campaigns of your own country during this on-going century.

 

I bet there are plenty of places in Internet where 11 naval carriers can be used to win forum wars. Everything else makes another matter.

 

Maybe you are just trolling, I dunno.