Not every man can BUY magic like you can buy ba gun...likened it to a gun control issue.
The free mages want to use magic to put food on the table, protect themselves, etc and if one or two (a minority) goes bonkers...oh well, caca happens. Viv believes in only the state militia having guns.
Does your own feelings about magic in Thedas equal your stance here on Earth with guns?
Threads like this make me glad I live in Canada. I've never even known anyone who owns a gun and I live in a downtown metropolitan area in the largest city in the country. The US sounds scary as hell.
'MURICAThreads like this make me glad I live in Canada. I've never even known anyone who owns a gun and I live in a downtown metropolitan area in the largest city in the country. The US sounds scary as hell.
seriously we americans are nosey but its not that bad reallyThreads like this make me glad I live in Canada. I've never even known anyone who owns a gun and I live in a downtown metropolitan area in the largest city in the country. The US sounds scary as hell.
Comments like that make me laugh honestly. I've never had my house robbed or broken into, but I've heard of it happening to a few people here and there in my area, enough that I know it's better to lock my doors when I leave my home and have some form of weapon relatively close. I am not afraid, despite this preparation seeming necessary. It's like wearing a seatbelt. If I choose not to wear a seatbelt, I'm not sweating bullets.
People from other countries really need to get a grip. It's not that Americans NEED to have guns in their homes to be safe. It's that we have the RIGHT to have them, and some of us feel safer with them. It's our choice, and one we choose to exercise.
And although most people will never have need to use them, you may find yourself as one of those people that do, and a lot of Americans would rather not be caught with their pants beneath their ankles. That's just who we are. We're not the type of people to roll over and play turtle.
LoL K, I've said enough already so people think what you will. No one's taking US citizen's guns no matter what anyone here thinks, so it's not worth wasting more finger breath.
Of course not. It is ingrained in your culture. You'd be as likely to succeed in removing guns from USA as you'd be in removing alchohol from Scandinavia. It is part of the culture. However, just as people will be disgusted with the Scandinavian drinking habits, people will be disgusted with American gun laws. Culture does change gradually though, and people wish to nodge it in a direction they believe better. That goes for both parties.
All that I am saying is, that there ARE problems with widely accesible guns. Just like there are problems with widely accesible alchohol/drugs/whatever. The question is how to best deal with these problems as they arise. And I hope you realize that "ignore them" is not a valid option.
Mages are not guns, they are WMDs that need to be guarded and controlled.
Of course not. It is ingrained in your culture. You'd be as likely to succeed in removing guns from USA as you'd be in removing alchohol from Scandinavia. It is part of the culture. However, just as people will be disgusted with the Scandinavian drinking habits, people will be disgusted with American gun laws. Culture does change gradually though, and people wish to nodge it in a direction they believe better. That goes for both parties.
All that I am saying is, that there ARE problems with widely accesible guns. Just like there are problems with widely accesible alchohol/drugs/whatever. The question is how to best deal with these problems as they arise. And I hope you realize that "ignore them" is not a valid option.
It's the only option, valid or not. You bring up alcohol, well we too tried to regulate those and what happened? Al Capone, speak easies, etc. It was a complete failure.
The answer is to teach people responsibility and to respect these things. You'll notice that in other countries, drinking isn't as big a deal as it is here in the US. We don't let people buy alcohol until we're 21, so we try to get it much earlier because of the fascination with it that is created from this regulation, whereas in Europe, it's just alcohol. Whatever.
Same with guns. In the south, it's just a gun, so what? Everywhere else, it's this super cool thing that people only see in movies and videogames, and they goof off with it, take facebook pictures like idiots with them, etc. If you get people used to them and educate them, they lose all their fascination and people stop treating things like toys and so on. Education is the answer, not regulation.
Comments like that make me laugh honestly. I've never had my house robbed or broken into, but I've heard of it happening to a few people here and there in my area, enough that I know it's better to lock my doors when I leave my home and have some form of weapon relatively close. I am not afraid, despite this preparation seeming necessary. It's like wearing a seatbelt. If I choose not to wear a seatbelt, I'm not sweating bullets.
People from other countries really need to get a grip. It's not that Americans NEED to have guns in their homes to be safe. It's that we have the RIGHT to have them, and some of us feel safer with them. It's our choice, and one we choose to exercise.
And although most people will never have need to use them, you may find yourself as one of those people that do, and a lot of Americans would rather not be caught with their pants beneath their ankles. That's just who we are. We're not the type of people to roll over and play turtle.
There's still a very real psychological impact if you know that most of your neighbours have a gun in their homes, or if you see people just walking down the street carrying one. It would make me feel unsafe. And I suppose the more people who feel unsafe the more they would be motivated to get a gun of their own, which simply compounds the issue. And I'd rather have all of my stuff stolen than ever be in a position where I had to take someone's life.
now the MT drama begins... yayMages are not guns, they are WMDs that need to be guarded and controlled.
Honestly having a right to bear arms is one of the freedoms that drew me to America.
So the Canadian's view to me is alien considering Norway is fairly anti gun on the civilian sector; it's difficult to legally obtain one and there are numerous restrictions in place on the people who can legally purchase and sell firearms.
To me? Having the ability to purchase a firearm legally without all the red tape and social restriction of home is liberation not frightening.
Course this comes from a man who has lived here for more then a decade, fought in their army in two separate fronts and owns nearly ten firearms.
There's still a very real psychological impact if you know that most of your neighbours have a gun in their homes, or if you see people just walking down the street carrying one. It would make me feel unsafe. And I suppose the more people who feel unsafe the more they would be motivated to get a gun of their own, which simply compounds the issue. And I'd rather have all of my stuff stolen than ever be in a position where I had to take someone's life.
Lol people here don't just walk around toting guns first of all. It's called a concealed weapons permit for a reason.
Second, the only people that should feel unsafe about knowing guns are in homes are criminals. Period. You have no business going into someone's home anyway.
would you rather watch your children/spouse die rather than be in a position where you had to take someone's life?There's still a very real psychological impact if you know that most of your neighbours have a gun in their homes, or if you see people just walking down the street carrying one. It would make me feel unsafe. And I suppose the more people who feel unsafe the more they would be motivated to get a gun of their own, which simply compounds the issue. And I'd rather have all of my stuff stolen than ever be in a position where I had to take someone's life.
It's the only option, valid or not. You bring up alcohol, well we too tried to regulate those and what happened? Al Pacino, speak easies, etc. It was a complete failure
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Al Capone, lol sorry 
Thanks for pointing out my error.
And I'd rather have all of my stuff stolen than ever be in a position where I had to take someone's life.
That is a deeper question then i'd care to get into in this forum but if you'd like we can discuss that very topic in a private message.
Having taken life myself i'd be curious to know just how someone who doesn't own weapons and hasn't been involved in a life threatening situation actually views the subject.
If you'd indulge me anyway.
There's still a very real psychological impact if you know that most of your neighbours have a gun in their homes, or if you see people just walking down the street carrying one.
Sounds like oversensitive ninnies.
I hear that, lol. My family works too ****** hard to have assholes steal our ****. You think your life's more valuable to me than my stuff?
Guess again fucker.
Second, the only people that should feel unsafe about knowing guns are in homes are criminals. Period. You have no business going into someone's home anyway.
Accidents happen, though. I'm not even arguing about how frequently they happen, just that they do. People have been accidentally shot and killed by people who thought they were protecting themselves from burglars. That is a scary thought that makes me feel unsafe. Sure, you can say that only criminals "should" feel unsafe, but ideals do not always line up with reality.
Lol people here don't just walk around toting guns first of all. It's called a concealed weapons permit for a reason.
Second, the only people that should feel unsafe about knowing guns are in homes are criminals. Period. You have no business going into someone's home anyway.
See, I can get behind having guns in your homes. What do I care what you do in your homes (of the legal variety anyway). But why on EARTH would you want to carry a concealed firearm? For what purpose? The ONLY purpose of concealing a weapon, is to be able to use it as a surprise... If carrying a weapon, it should be announced to the world around you, by being in plain sight. Just like you didn't mess with the dude who carried a sword on his belt in medieval times.
Also, trigger happiness is something that needs to be severely curbed in America. The stories about the kid shot dead in the garage, and the man shooting another for talking too loudly in the cinema, or the exchange student who came home late on night and fumbled at the front door, jumps to mind.
Welp, I think it's time for me to leave now.
Welp, I think it's time for me to leave now.
Got room for one more?
See, I can get behind having guns in your homes. What do I care what you do in your homes (of the legal variety anyway). But why on EARTH would you want to carry a concealed firearm? For what purpose? The ONLY purpose of concealing a weapon, is to be able to use it as a surprise... If carrying a weapon, it should be announced to the world around you, by being in plain sight. Just like you didn't mess with the dude who carried a sword on his belt in medieval times.
Also, trigger happiness is something that needs to be severely curbed in America. The stories about the kid shot dead in the garage, and the man shooting another for talking too loudly in the cinema, or the exchange student who came home late on night and fumbled at the front door, jumps to mind.
Crime doesn't just happen at home. It's more likely to happen elsewhere actually. What about if my daughter works late at night and we can only afford to live in a bad area where crime is high? I'd want her to keep at least a .22 in her purse.
And our trigger happiness is greatly exaggerated.
Accidents happen, though. I'm not even arguing about how frequently they happen, just that they do. People have been accidentally shot and killed by people who thought they were protecting themselves from burglars. That is a scary thought that makes me feel unsafe. Sure, you can say that only criminals "should" feel unsafe, but ideals do not always line up with reality.
You would just get something else to attack the intruder with, and believe it or not, when people feel threatened they'll go for the kill regardless of how fast and effective the method of killing is. This isn't Tom and Jerry. No one's reaching for the rolling pin when someone breaks into their house.
I have bourbon to drink anyway.
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