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[BronzTrooper]

Got room for one more?

 

Meh, alright.  Hop on.

[General TSAR]

Meh, alright.  Hop on.

Awesome! Always wanted to ride a horse riding a motorcycle. 

[crimzontearz]

You would just get something else to attack the intruder with, and believe it or not, when people feel threatened they'll go for the kill regardless of how fast and effective the method of killing is. This isn't Tom and Jerry. No one's reaching for the rolling pin when someone breaks into their house.

That is why I have a gladius near my bed

[Colonelkillabee]

Accidents happen, though. I'm not even arguing about how frequently they happen, just that they do. People have been accidentally shot and killed by people who thought they were protecting themselves from burglars. That is a scary thought that makes me feel unsafe. Sure, you can say that only criminals "should" feel unsafe, but ideals do not always line up with reality.

And again, police have accidentally murdered civilians because they thought they were threatening. People have accidentally slipped and fallen in private pools, killed whole families with vehicles. Hell, people have killed themselves with ****** toasters through electrocution. Accidents happen. Which is exactly why they're irrelevant in the topic of guns, because the possession of a gun alone isn't going to get you killed.

[General TSAR]

That is why I have a gladius near my bed

I feel awesome for knowing what that is without looking it up.

[crimzontearz]

I feel awesome for knowing what that is without looking it up.

civis romanus sum

[EmperorSahlertz]

Crime doesn't just happen at home. It's more likely to happen elsewhere actually. What about if my daughter works late at night and we can only afford to live in a bad area where crime is high? I'd want her to keep at least a .22 in her purse.

 

And our trigger happiness is greatly exaggerated.

You'd want to have your daughter in a gunfight? 

 

Statistically the chacnes of being assaulted are miniscule, even if you live in a tough neighborhood. Having a weapon or not is not going to improve those odds. Actually I say chances of getting hurt would be bigger.

 

Now if we are talking about villages in Afghanistan I can understand why you'd want your family armed, since warlords and bandits can attack at any time, and they aren't exactly known for "just taking the purse".

 

But being armed generally in dangerous areas makes sense. But America is NOT generally a dangerous area. So what is the reasoning behind being armed in the safe areas?

[Hornless Qunari/Human DPS]

Observing and playing is 2 different things let him/her play it.

[raging_monkey]

At this point i doubt we will reach a consensus lets just drop it. We've obvi took the troll bait

[Colonelkillabee]

You'd want to have your daughter in a gunfight? 

The point, you missed it.

 

If my daughter's walking home from work in the dark, I want her armed. I don't "want" her in a gunfight, no. But it's better than being in a fight with no weapon period.

[herkles]

mods can this be moved to the off topic forum. as it has nothing to do with dragon age.

[raging_monkey]

mods can this be moved to the off topic forum. as it has nothing to do with dragon age.

i think the mods quit... these types of threads are rampant

[EmperorSahlertz]

The point, you missed it.

 

If my daughter's walking home from work in the dark, I want her armed. I don't "want" her in a gunfight, no. But it's better than being in a fight with no weapon period.

But having that gun may just make it worse. But that is all hypothetical, and we could both present situations that argued for or against eachother's points.

 

But you ignored the rest of my post. What are the reasoning behind carrying weapons in safe areas?

[Hazegurl]

Accidents happen, though. I'm not even arguing about how frequently they happen, just that they do. People have been accidentally shot and killed by people who thought they were protecting themselves from burglars. That is a scary thought that makes me feel unsafe. Sure, you can say that only criminals "should" feel unsafe, but ideals do not always line up with reality.

True, but at the same time not having any means to protect yourself from a trespasser essentially means that you are placing yourself at the mercy of a complete stranger or even someone you may know who does not have the best of intent for you. You are reliant upon their mercy to let you live and if they decide, for whatever reason, not to give it to you, then you are gone. I hope to never have to take someone's life. I've never been the victim of the robbery but my mother had. If anyone breaks into my home, I hope they do it when everyone inside is gone and leave before we get home. But if someone comes into my home while I am here then I will defend myself. I don't care if he/she's the nicest burglar in town. They are leaving my house one way or the other.

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

So... i guess we learned here that there's alot of guys with small penises who need a big gun to compensate, no shame in that

[raging_monkey]

So... i guess we learned here that there's alot of guys with small penises who need a big gun to compensate, no shame in that

hey i resent that... im appropriate XD

[Colonelkillabee]

But having that gun may just make it worse. But that is all hypothetical, and we could both present situations that argued for or against eachother's points.

But you ignored the rest of my post. What are the reasoning behind carrying weapons in safe areas?

First of all, having a gun might make it worse? What is she supposed to do then hope the criminal doesn't kill or rape her?

Second, how do you know it safe? The whole point is to expect the unexpected.

[Colonelkillabee]

So... i guess we learned here that there's alot of guys with small penises who need a big gun to compensate, no shame in that

There sure is a lot of women in America walking around with little penises then.

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

There sure is a lot of women in America walking around with little penises then.

Oh, get a sense of humor, might help with your anger issues

[Colonelkillabee]

Oh, get a sense of humor, might help with your anger issues

I'll get a sense of humor when you get a clue. We're having a big boy conversation here, children's table's thataway.

[Hazegurl]

There sure is a lot of women in America walking around with little penises then.

 

Technically speaking the cli...nevermind. lol!

[Colonelkillabee]

Technically speaking the cli...nevermind. lol!

LOL.

[jellobell]

That is a deeper question then i'd care to get into in this forum but if you'd like we can discuss that very topic in a private message.

 

Having taken life myself i'd be curious to know just how someone who doesn't own weapons and hasn't been involved in a life threatening situation actually views the subject.

 

If you'd indulge me anyway.

Haha, yeah, I can see how that might be a bit of a heavy subject for a video game forum.

 

I'm not arguing that nobody should be willing to take lives. Military and law enforcement all provide valuable services. But for me personally, I just couldn't even imagine myself doing it. I'm sure there are hypothetical situations where I could (my life is in danger, the lives of others are in danger), but I'm still not willing to arm myself just in case something like that happens. It's a personal decision. That's really all I was trying to say.

 

would you rather watch your children/spouse die rather than be in a position where you had to take someone's life?

Just curious because for some there is that factor too...

I don't have either children or a spouse, so perhaps my point of view would be different if I had, but I haven't really spent a ton of time thinking about hypotheticals like that. However, my father is in the criminal justice system. He's prosecuted a lot of murders. And the best advice he ever gave me was that if you're mugged, don't fight back. Just give them what they want. Because he'd seen so many cases where escalating the situation resulted in death, and so many cases where when one person starts shooting, everyone starts shooting. As long as you're alive you can report what happened to the police, and they'll do their jobs. 

 

Anyways, checking out of this thread. I really don't want to get into a debate about gun control. It raises a lot of tensions on all sides.

[Panda]

This thread is still going on? Suprising. Well I guess best I can do is bring another argument. So although there was trespasser in your home, you aren't allowed allowed to kill them since that's taking law in your own hands. You aren't law and you aren't allowed to punish people. Death penalty doesn't exist so shooting someone wouldn't be even valid punishment. If you act like you are law you are the one who gets punished by it. For manslaughter you get jailtime.

 

Also there really isn't people invading other's home's here. I don't know anyone with gun nor anyone who has had their home trespassed or invaded. And in the street you can carry non-lethal ways to defend yourself. Pepper spray as one of them.

[Colonelkillabee]

The thread actually hadn't been going on for roughly two hours give or take.