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DLC request: Hawke as Inquisitor


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First off, there is a lot of sustained buzz over DAI's singleplayer in all sorts of fora; glad to see that since it bodes well for the franchise.

 

Now, on topic:

I am one of those people that actually wasn't that upset about DA2; just like with Origins I liked DA2's plot, it's characters and ultimately loved the choices we were presented with.

And from a developer point of view I'd say that producing a game from scratch in ten months was an amazing feat.

As a player you could develop Hawke's persona in a compelling way which I personally really liked.

The reason I'm writing the above up in this post is because way back the DA2 forums were a frothing cauldron of vitriol I couldn't be bothered to deal with.

 

In DAI Hawke has been reduced to be on par with that "Orlesian mustache cameo Warden" from DA2. It's horrible!

 

Is there any chance that Hawke could actually be made a playable Inquisitor in a DLC?

 

You have the character model rigged and animated and the voice actors are no doubt on call.

Your writers will have no trouble coming up with something smart on the red lyrium investigation angle.


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No, because of the story. I'm guessing that you haven't played the 2nd half of the game.
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No thanks.

 

Besides there is no character DLC to be added.

 

The last time it worked well was for Shale. and Maybe Mass Effect 2?


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No comment on playing Hawke, but I just hate dlc.  Every time ea release a game they just release half of it and then release a lot of dlc that is even more expensive than the base game.



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No comment on playing Hawke, but I just hate dlc.  Every time ea release a game they just release half of it and then release a lot of dlc that is even more expensive than the base game.

Not anymore with no bioware points



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I agree with OP it could be fun, probably because I'm totaly in love with my sarcastic FemHawke. 

But to be honest I would prefer if they make lots of DLC to continue the story...


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That would basically change the entire game. They may as well remake DAI using Hawke in the first place. I'm satisfied I got Hawke this much in this game. Somehow I think they are done with Hawke though because of your choice of what to do with him. They might use him again as an NPC at best but I doubt you will ever see Hawke again, perhaps a side story like they had with the Hero of Ferelden. I'd bet even the HoF won't be included in DLCs or future games, since of the choice you had of letting he/she die or not in DAO. Just move on or keep playing DA2 until you are sick of Hawke. LOL!



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No, because of the story. I'm guessing that you haven't played the 2nd half of the game.

There must've been something huge I missed then.

Other then the choice at the end of the fade, which is why I suggested Bioware's writers do something smart, I don't see why Hawke would be out of the question.

Please, anyone, feel free to clue me in on this!

 

xlm - I hear you mate; not at all enthusiatic about DLC myself, especially when it comes to Bioware's DLC offers in the past -- which should tell Bioware something about this request of mine.

The only game where DLC made sense to me was Crusader Kings 2, even though I'm quite picky there as well.

 

Cheers to everyone else bumping this thread even though they are not too enthused about the suggestion ;)



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Hawke is out of the question because they couldn't find Hawke to make him Inquisitor (as we know from the end of DA2) so they made 'The Prisoner' the Inquisitor instead because he was the only one who could close rifts. Now you want to fire the current incumbent and put someone else in his place who, depending upon your choices, has pulled another vanishing act? Good luck with that.



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Oh, well if that's the only issue - that's where the writers "come up with something smart".

 

A writer would need to rework the few lines where the game mentions Hawke not being in DAI vanilla.

And yes, a "Hawke as Inquisitor" DLC implies that the current incumbent never happened.

Because of reasons that are just as detailed and well explained as the paragraph of text in the current character designer.

 

All the the tools for making this happen are already conveniently present in the plot.

-We don't know what happened with Hawke at the end of DA2.

-The Prisoner has got the typical amnesia so there's a lot of freedom to tie in Hawke there as well; imagine Cassandra being even more upset with Hawke having betrayed the Inquisition - a Hawke who doesn't at all know what she is talking about.

 

Of course, how Bioware could write this DLC together plotwise is up to them.

But if the writers could fix a severe case of terminal decapitation for Leliana in DAO (I never defiled the Sacred Ashes, I swear!) they can fix anything.


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No.

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Hawke is still my favorite DA protagonist, even if most hate DA2. But I can't see this as being a good idea.



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Wouldn't mind Hawke as a party member. But sadly Bioware said no character add-ons :(.
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I wouldn't mind a DLC where you could play as Hawke or the Warden in some mission they're running concurrent to the main story. Like a side story from their perspective.


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And in true Hawke style, he goes to Redcliffe and the mages all turn into abominations. Then the rift expands, eating up Haven and everyone dies.
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Poor Hawke. Anywhere he goes, the worst thing that could possibly happen, ALWAYS happens.



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Took some time to look up this issue that people mention about character DLCs; it turns out a bit different.

 

"There will be no DLC party members," BioWare says. (Gamespot article and Polygon article)

This is explicitly to avoid the Mass Effect 3 controversy where key DLC was practically fully present in the vanilla binaries. I remember that; another frothing cauldron of vitriol.

 

That's fine because this requested DLC is most certainly not already "on the discs".

 

Hawke-as-Inquisitor isn't about adding a party member; it's a replacement of the lead character.

Most of the dialogue's already in the game; it just requires the relevant voice actors and director to fill those in.

None of this is provided in the original binaries so there can't be a controversy and if they actually decide to make a "Hawquisitor DLC" then they can point to this thread.

 

And I don't buy any "technical limitations" being an issue for this.

Baldur's Gate 2 ran on the Infinity Engine (nearly 15 years ago) allowed prolific modding. There are oodles of mods available that add custom characters with complex narratives and party banters (fully voiced too!) that could be installed ad hoc just fine. The Kelsey NPC was pretty cool!

Somehow I'm supposed to believe that Bioware's tech degraded over time?

 

Sure a DLC today requires a bit more work then way back then because of all the snazzy graphics -- but all that work has already been done.



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No thanks.

 

Besides there is no character DLC to be added.

 

The last time it worked well was for Shale. and Maybe Mass Effect 2?

 

Shale was part of the game, then was removed and added again later as DLC. Similiar to Javik in ME3.

ME2 did it well with Kasumi. :)



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DA2 almost destroyed Dragon age. I'm happy I get to let Hawke die.



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No, thank you.



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You know that won't happen for obvious reasons we cannot discuss.  If you havn't played the game entirely through I suspect you should try this.



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Most responses on this thread are impulsive; either quick responses to the title without bothering to read the fipo let alone other posts or rhetorically powerful rebuttals consisting of a single two letter word (that was sarcasm).

What I wanted was some measure of exposure and I got that - in part due to bumping from these naysayers.

 

The reason I posted this request in the first place is the nagging feeling that the contents for this DLC are already made - it's just that all these pieces are on the cutting room floor due to the feedback on DA2.

The release dates and working time on both DA2 and DAI suggest that they've practically been developed in parallel.

When you look at DA2 and DAI from a distance one could almost say that DA2 is a prologue for DAI; introducing the red lyrium, the major religious powers, the initial conflict, the Inquisition itself and two of it's leading characters each of which can become one of the most powerful individuals in Thedas. It truly feels like it was a setup for Inquisition, with the implication that Hawke would slide into the lead role.

 

Whatever Bioware needs to do to expand the Dragon Age franchise and make it more accessible and therefor grab more customers is a good thing in my book; and that includes taking the feedback on DA2 seriously.

It's just that people like me, some of which you can find in this very thread, are willing to fork over a chunk of change to make a DLC like this happen.

 

Now, wether or not a DLC like this happens is up to EA Bioware.

Either way I love team Thedas' work!



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This would create a rather awkward situation once the inquisitor gets to Skyhold, that is unless you want your doppelganger to be around and play a part in the story.