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[SolNebula]

tbh most of the time I agree with her....is just that calling me darling every time that irks me quite a lot

[Dollores]

"The game" is about reaching your goals without displaying your intentions (or who you really are), by that definition Vivienne's attitude could very much be part of her game. In the winter palace your objective is to gather information while avoiding eviction from the party, thus if you ask about something directly or act like a baffon you lose points in that particular scenario. I think it's made evident by her banter that vivienne likes to throw her opponents off balance with her appearance and words before they can see her true nature, that is her game, and so the only ones capable to spar with her are Cole (because she can't wear a mask against him) and solas (because deceiving is his business). Evidently (again) trying to play the game against the inquisition would most likely not end up well for her, that is why she is sincere to the inquisitor.

[mikeymoonshine]

I wonder how free the college of enchanters is. Wouldn't they still need to take peoples mage children away if only to train them? 

[TheLittleBird]

I wonder how free the college of enchanters is. Wouldn't they still need to take peoples mage children away if only to train them? 

 

I think they send owls to those families with invitations. 

[Ogillardetta]

I think they send owls to those families with invitations. 

Is there a hat that sees what fraternity you belong with?

[TheLittleBird]

Is there a hat that sees what fraternity you belong with?

 

Possibly.

 

I do know that the students are brought to the College in aravel trains.

[Solbranthius]

Nopenopenope. She is not "playing the game" with the Inquisitor, or if she is then she's unspeakably awful at it. Go back to the Winter Palace and see how the game works. You're supposed to be subtle, you're never supposed to be blunt, and while it's okay to call someone out on their BS, you're not supposed to be a condescending douchebag. "Blunt" is the second to first word I'd use to describe Vivienne (I can't repeat the first one on a family forum) and it's what you're NEVER supposed to be in the game.

 

Gaspard isn't particularly subtle but that doesn't make him any less effective at playing the game when compared to his rival Celene. She's also very well connected and well liked as shown by her associates during her introduction scene. She's in a position where she can afford to be blunt and not suffer much backlash for it. If the Inquisitor turned against her then it's very likely that they'd lose a lot of support which is likely why she's kept around by the Inquisition.

[FiveThreeTen]

Is there a hat that sees what fraternity you belong with?

The sorting hat yelled "Slytherin!" for Vivienne but at the last moment she decided to create her own House: The PowerPeacocks.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

 Dunno why, Slytherin is the coolest house of the four by far.

[Ryriena]

Dunno why, Slytherin is the coolest house of the four by far.

Um Considering it's the house that gave us Valdomort and rise to the death eaters. lol

[FiveThreeTen]

 Dunno why, Slytherin is the coolest house of the four by far.

Hufflepuffs are the coolest, the world just doesn't know it yet (even Hufflepuffs don't know it).

 

As for Vivienne it was just the year when the saying "One does not achieve greatness without feathers" was trendy  ...so peacocks POWERpeacocks...

[teh DRUMPf!!]

Um Considering it's the house that gave us Valdomort and rise to the death eaters. lol

 

But also the BAMF that is Severus Snape.

[Ryriena]

But also the BAMF that is Severus Snape.

True

[Ryzaki]

I wish Hermione had been in Slytherin.

[lyin321]

I wish Hermione had been in Slytherin.

 

 Go read fanfiction:)

 

If you are actually interested in fanfic feel free to ask....there is one such story (well probably few more but I don't know them)...

[Ryzaki]

 Go read fanfiction:)

 

If you are actually interested in fanfic feel free to ask....there is one such story (well probably few more but I don't know them)...

 

Seriously as long as it's not a Dr/HR or Hr/SS romance story yes please!

 

A muggleborn trying to navigate her way through Slytherin fascinates me. Plus her and Ron and Harry still becoming friends and actually putting that "all houses should come together." stuff in actual action would be wonderful.

 

_{Yes I'm still mad Rowling had all the Slytherins either fight on Voldermort's side or run away. That was some bull.}

[Eldrid]

that moment where she ninja'd divine you... just no. no.

[Gaz83]

Pro tip: If you recruit Vivienne but do not speak to her once you're in Skyhold, she will indefinitely stand out in the garden. Wind, rain or shine, she'll be there. Cold, sad and alone.

 

You're welcome. 

[WillieStyle]

I'd like to thank Bioware for making a black character with flaws who isn't just blandly likable: I'm looking at you Jacob.

Yes Vivianne is mean, and elitist. But she also plays the role of the grounded conservative warning that revolutions don't always end well. She's a real person. Not merely a politically correct token. Thank you Bioware.

[lyin321]

 I disliked Jacob too:) 

But I know what you mean...he was alot less confrontational, Btw seeing as female Shepard (if being nice) was always very flirty with him (ugh!) how did the male Shep interated? Sorry to digress this topic so much...

[Vilegrim]

If she doesn't like you :

 

Spoiler

 

 

I never got this in my game , I sort of get along with her ...probably because I told her I wanted order back (it made sense for my Dalish to say that since he was send to the conclave because humans trouble were disturbing his clan) .

And from what I saw with her in game , you get way more approval with conversation than your actual action .(a lot of time she simply doesn't care much about what you do , I freed the mage , allied with the warden , let Morri drink ,and she loved me ...).

But if you tell to her face you stronly disagree , she gets really really passive agressive , it seems.

 

 

and you can't hang her for that why?  You can't chew her out why?  Oh I know She loves the circles so much..but she isn't in a tower right now, so she is apostate, make her tranquil.

[CHawk15]

The thing about Vivienne is that she's up front about who she is and it's pretty clear she has a ulterior motive when joining the Inquisition.   She's accumulated great power playing "the game" in Orlais and she's proud of what's she's accomplished.  She doesn't apologize for it and has a very unique view of how to handle mages, especially considering that she is one.   Never thought I would hear a mage actually Defend the Circles, but she did and was very convincing in doing so.   Whether the reason for that view is that she truily believes that the people must be protected from mages (due to the possession factor) or she has the underlying motive of wanting to keep her power and influence isn't clear to me.  Probably a bit of both. 

[lyin321]

 Speaking of her joinng the inquisition - it is interesting why she accept the 'no' so easy...at that point we (as institution....although she might not be very impressed with the power of the PC either) are not powerfull enought for her not to dare to try forcing her way in....

[Kinsz]

 

That reminds me of something I wrote...shoot, back in April I think.  Looking back, I think I really nailed the tone of the banter between Sera and Vivienne as what ended up being shown in the game.  The concept behind the imagined banter was that Sera had heard about the Elder/Poet Tree, and had proceeded to annoy the entire party with it.  I have a few, but this one comes to mind.

 

Spoiler

Sera: A lovely young lass for me to see.  What brings you here to the Poet Tree?

 

Viviene: <laughs> I do not think you wish to do this.

 

Sera: Nonsense, with my little rhymes I love to play.  Come, join me on this fine and lovely day!

 

Vivi: Very well then, since you insist my dear.

 

Sera: <squee!>

 

Vivi: I know this game of rhymes you seek.  'Tis not a game meant for the faint and for the weak.

 

Sera: Show me what you can do.  Do you have more wit than is in a shoe?

 

Vivi: Let us begin.  

 

Vivi: I see a young elf so full of humor and sass.  I would be too, if I had no chest and a flat ass.

 

Sera: Wait, what...

 

Vivi: Your hair is like brittle straw, though I am sure women in the dark do not see that fatal flaw.

 

Sera: Hey, hold on now...

 

Vivi: Now now dear, it is only for a laugh.  I can smell you from here, so please do take a bath.

 

Sera: WHAT?!?

 

Vivi: What is the matter with this little game?  I told you I would win one and the same.

 

Sera: Wait, but I have...but I didn't...just one second here...hey!

 

Cass: <doubled over with laughter>

 

Varric: Ah, Madame, you never cease to amaze me.  Shall we be off, everyone?

 

Vivi: Oh yes.  Little Sera, it was much fun.  We should do this again sometime, no?

 

Sera: <mumbles something not nice about Vivi's mother>

 

Vivi: What was that, dear?

 

Sera: Nothing.

 

Haha Brilliant, its as if you knew ....maybe you did , excuse me while i grab a pen and a piece of paper so you can tell me next week's winning lottery number

[Grieving Natashina]

Haha Brilliant, its as if you knew ....maybe you did , excuse me while i grab a pen and a piece of paper so you can tell me next week's winning lottery number

Oh no, if I guess the Powerball numbers, I'm keeping that to myself.  

 

Thanks for the compliment.  I tried to do one for Solas, but having an entire segment with his response being riddles was too much for me.  After about 2 weeks, I gave up.  I suck at creating riddles anyhow.