My main issue with the Myers-Brigg test is that one person can actually fit multiple "personality types". It's highly dependent on how a person perceives themselves at the time they take the test, although generally it is reliable (consistent).
The test only tells you what you tell it.
Agreed, I've been both INFJ and INFP...right now I'm INFP *shrugs*
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Agreed, I've been both INFJ and INFP...right now I'm INFP *shrugs*
There's a big difference still, think.
If you're just saying you feel INFJ, because "J" makes you more organized sometimes.. then that is really just the INFP's "Te" function sticking out.
There's a big difference still, think.
If you're just saying you feel INFJ, because "J" makes you more organized sometimes.. then that is really just the INFP's "Te" function sticking out.
Well, I've taken the test a very different times in my life and I've come out as both. When I came out INFJ it was probably the darkest point of my 41 years, chronic depression, which may sound weird, my most recent attempt landed me INFP, I even had to check again...just to be sure. I find it interesting.
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Well, I've taken the test a very different times in my life and I've come out as both. When I came out INFJ it was probably the darkest point of my 41 years, chronic depression, which may sound weird, my most recent attempt landed me INFP, I even had to check again...just to be sure. I find it interesting.
It's typical to test like that.
I'll just say a good rule of thumb is keeping in mind what makes you most comfortable. MBTI was originally just meant to be about "preferences". Not a rigid personality type. We can all do certain things, but sometimes we have to force ourselves or feel bored or exhausted with some tasks. That's a good sign that you're outside your "preferred functions", so to speak.
It's typical to test like that.
I'll just say a good rule of thumb is keeping in mind what makes you most comfortable. MBTI was originally just meant to be about "preferences". Not a rigid personality type. We can all do certain things, but sometimes we have to force ourselves or feel bored or exhausted with some tasks. That's a good sign that you're outside your "preferred functions", so to speak.
I always find tests like that a bit frustrating anyway, because I'm that person that will sit there going "But, it depends on the situation!" to steal a line from Solas.."It's more complicated than that!" fits perfectly when I attempt them lol.
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I always find tests like that a bit frustrating anyway, because I'm that person that will sit there going "But, it depends on the situation!" to steal a line from Solas.."It's more complicated than that!" fits perfectly when I attempt them lol.
Typical INFP. Always focused on the possibilities.
Now I know you're not INFJ 
Typical INFP. Always focused on the possibilities.
Now I know you're not INFJ
Hahaha!
Actually, as someone who generally tests out as INTJ, we don't all want to "impose our way of doing things on others." I've gone more the other way. It makes me more libertarian I think. I know how I should live my life and I resent the heck out of anyone who tries to impose their ways on me. Sure, I'll give you an earful about what I think is the right way and why, but if it's wrong for me to force that on you, then it's equally wrong for you to force your ways on me. And we have an impasse. Therefore, logically, that leaves libertarianism. We each make our own ways with advice when asked.
Introverted Idealist With All The Feels...that's me 
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Vivi seems awfully INTJ to me
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Actually, as someone who generally tests out as INTJ, we don't all want to "impose our way of doing things on others." I've gone more the other way. It makes me more libertarian I think. I know how I should live my life and I resent the heck out of anyone who tries to impose their ways on me. Sure, I'll give you an earful about what I think is the right way and why, but if it's wrong for me to force that on you, then it's equally wrong for you to force your ways on me. And we have an impasse. Therefore, logically, that leaves libertarianism. We each make our own ways with advice when asked.
That just means you now want to impose Libertarianism on everyone.
Yeah, that's terrible of me. I know. How dare I let everyone else live their lives as they want? 
Given that underneath the libertarian lies a Christian conversative, I think you ought to take the libertarian ...
Yeah, that's terrible of me. I know. How dare I let everyone else live their lives as they want?
Given that underneath the libertarian lies a Christian conversative, I think you ought to take the libertarian ...
Remember to stay on topic, y'all! DAI character types, not political debates. Unless we're talking about the politics of Thedas.
Ok i may mistaken on Vivi, but ESTP for Sera, and INFJ for Cole are pretty obvious.
Cassandra also seems more I type, and strikes more like ISTJ to me, at least it is how she appears to be if you romance her and go deep into her relationship. Not sure about her feelings, being quite softie inside, with iron shell and seemingly extroverted appearance, but actually she is more I type.
Dorian probably ENFJ or ENFP - not sure here, probably only true ENFP in this crew (yes, there much more similarities with ENFP for him)
I did graphic about DA characters before DAI. There I determined that Cullen is ISFJ, Cassandra ESTJ and Leliana ENFP. DAI gives a lot of information about the characters however so these might not be right, well Cullen and Cassandra I believe still are ISFJ and ESTJ but Leliana might not be ENFP at all ^^;
Anyhow, here is the whole graphic if someone is intrested:
Gosh... someone has a lot of free time on their hands 
Gosh... someone has a lot of free time on their hands
Yep, I do ^^.. or I take too much free time from my uni work..
Cassandra: ISTJ - I don't get where people are getting ISFJ from; the girl has absolutely no Fe.
Varric: ENTP - Classic ENTP with very developed Fe.
Solas: INFJ - The way he views spirits and demons is classic Ti and he has a well developed feeling function compared to most INTPs. He also lacks Se and tends to view the world through his subjective lenses.
Sera: ESFP - Fi completely blinds her to other people's feelings. Very simplistic and childish in her views.
Vivienne: ESTJ - Si completely rules her way of viewing things and Te gives her that sharp and ruthless edge. I would say ISTJ, but her feeling function is complete ****.
Blackwall: ISFP - Way too caught up in his morals to be ISTJ. Most of his banters with others seem to come from an Fi perspective rather than Te.
Iron Bull: ESTP - As someone said, he has the typical dudebro personality trait. Fe over Fi makes him more chill and also explains why he's subservient to the Qun.
Dorian: ENFP - I thought ENTP, but unlike Varric who's more chill, Dorian's moral side pretty much dictates a lot of his character, from his desire to make Tevinter a better place, his fear of temptation, and his emotional outbursts.
Cole: INFP - Typical INFP. Wants to help others and has a one track mind about how to go about it.
Cullen: ISTJ - Very similar to Cassandra but softer and more malleable.
Leliana: ENFP - Hardened and softened Leliana in both DAO and DAI are all ruled by their Fi - their inner moral compass. What really changes is how often she uses Te, with DAI having Leliana being more mature and easily able to use her Te, making her seem more ruthless than her DAO self.
Josephine: ESFJ - Classic ESFJ. Enjoys establishing networks, sweet and kind, needs to share thoughts with others, etc.
Btw, has anyone heard of the enneagram? It explains some more things about the characters that the MBTI doesn't fully explain. You can learn more about it on my channel:
https://www.youtube....eadintea/videos
/shameless plug
EDIT: Forgot advisors.
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DA needs more INTPs. I don't want to be represented by the Architect.
Cassandra: ISTJ - I don't get where people are getting ISFJ from; the girl has absolutely no Fe.
Varric: ENTP - Classic ENTP with very developed Fe.
Solas: INFJ - The way he views spirits and demons is classic Ti and he has a well developed feeling function compared to most INTPs. He also lacks Se and tends to view the world through his subjective lenses.
Sera: ESFP - Fi completely blinds her to other people's feelings. Very simplistic and childish in her views.
Vivienne: ESTJ - Si completely rules her way of viewing things and Te gives her that sharp and ruthless edge. I would say ISTJ, but her feeling function is complete ****.
Blackwall: ISFP - Way too caught up in his morals to be ISTJ. Most of his banters with others seem to come from an Fi perspective rather than Te.
Iron Bull: ESTP - As someone said, he has the typical dudebro personality trait. Fe over Fi makes him more chill and also explains why he's subservient to the Qun.
Dorian: ENFP - I thought ENTP, but unlike Varric who's more chill, Dorian's moral side pretty much dictates a lot of his character, from his desire to make Tevinter a better place, his fear of temptation, and his emotional outbursts.
Cole: INFP - Typical INFP. Wants to help others and has a one track mind about how to go about it.
Cullen: ISTJ - Very similar to Cassandra but softer and more malleable.
Leliana: ENFP - Hardened and softened Leliana in both DAO and DAI are all ruled by their Fi - their inner moral compass. What really changes is how often she uses Te, with DAI having Leliana being more mature and easily able to use her Te, making her seem more ruthless than her DAO self.
Josephine: ESFJ - Classic ESFJ. Enjoys establishing networks, sweet and kind, needs to share thoughts with others, etc.
Btw, has anyone heard of the enneagram? It explains some more things about the characters that the MBTI doesn't fully explain. You can learn more about it on my channel:
https://www.youtube....eadintea/videos
/shameless plug
EDIT: Forgot advisors.
Do you mean INTJ for Solas? Thanks so much for writing this all out, very interesting points. I'm about to leave for a few hours, but I'll update the OP to include a lot of this once I'm back. I've looked into enneagram stuff, but I've not found it as accurate personally.
Do you mean INTJ for Solas? Thanks so much for writing this all out, very interesting points. I'm about to leave for a few hours, but I'll update the OP to include a lot of this once I'm back. I've looked into enneagram stuff, but I've not found it as accurate personally.
No. INFJ. Solas doesn't use Te. He doesn't accept the way the world is said to work and goes along with it like Cassandra or Vivienne. He uses Ti which is all about questioning what actually is and forming their own opinions through their own experiences. Though an INTP uses Ti, their feeling function is too low compared to how well developed Solas' feeling function is. Though to be honest, I can actually see INTJ working well for him since he does seem to use Fi over Fe. Still, Solas' Thinking function is his strongest function and I see more Ti than Te, which is why I chose INFJ for him.
These things can never decide if I'm an INTJ or an INTP. I've come out just one one side or the other of that line every time I've taken a test. (They all agree about the INT part, though.) Based on that chart, though, I think I'd rather be Morrigan than the Architect .
These things can never decide if I'm an INTJ or an INTP. I've come out just one one side or the other of that line every time I've taken a test. (They all agree about the INT part, though.) Based on that chart, though, I think I'd rather be Morrigan than the Architect
This is the reason why I don't like MBTI tests. They never really test you on your functions, which are really the most important thing about the MBTI system. The fact is that INTJ and INTP are extremely different personality types despite one letter change and no one would be oscillating between these 2 types as easily as a test will claim.
I still can't agree on Leliana's ENFP. ENFP described to be conflicting and opposing to ISTJ which are (I agree completely) Cassandra and Cullen. Actuaaky she might be ENFJ which are artistic as well. I think that ENFJ fits her much more. And ENFJ and ISTJ are actually complementing types and that makes a lot of sence with all right and left hand story.
So, Leliana is ENFJ, opposite but (dual) complementing to Cassy ISTJ.
ENFPs and ISTJs share the exact same functions just reversed. If both types are healthy, they can easily get along because they'd know exactly how each other feels and thinks like. In comparison, an ISTJ would be more likely to see an ENFJ as being a fake brown noser and an ENFJ would think of an ISTJ as a self absorbed stiff.
Leliana is ENFP because her functions stack up as Ne-Fi-Te-Si. She interprets things differently than how they are and is able to draw up many conclusions from a single source with Ne, she decides more with her morals/Fi than goes with the group or influencing the group like an Fe would do, she uses Te to swiftly and decisively carry out her plans, and she has inferior Si so she doesn't really draw upon past experiences to shape her plans, though it does influence her in unconscious ways every so often.
Some examples of her ENFP in effect are how Leliana perceives the will of the Maker in the first conversation you had with her in DAO, the way she was able to distort Justinia's views to fit her own in DAI, the way she wants to grant freedom to the mages while ignoring a lot of evidence stacked up against their freedom, and the way she's able to break down the noble's shoes in the Wicked Heart and Wicked Eyes scenario. All of these point to ENFP for Leliana, not ENFJ.
DA needs more INTPs. I don't want to be represented by the Architect.
Well there is probaply more INTP's but not in so majority roles.. However if you like Mass Effect there is Mordin Solus who people brand as INTP, that might be nicer rep
ENFJ are dual (best possible complementation and results) relationships to ISTJ actually points on Leliana as ENFJ and that's how relationship between ENFJ and ISTJ described. She is subtle revolutioner and that's how ENFJ described. She fights not for personal freedoms but for general concept of it doing it with recklessness which is very characteristic to ENFJThis is the reason why I don't like MBTI tests. They never really test you on your functions, which are really the most important thing about the MBTI system. The fact is that INTJ and INTP are extremely different personality types despite one letter change and no one would be oscillating between these 2 types as easily as a test will claim.
ENFPs and ISTJs share the exact same functions just reversed. If both types are healthy, they can easily get along because they'd know exactly how each other feels and thinks like. In comparison, an ISTJ would be more likely to see an ENFJ as being a fake brown noser and an ENFJ would think of an ISTJ as a self absorbed stiff.
Leliana is ENFP because her functions stack up as Ne-Fi-Te-Si. She interprets things differently than how they are and is able to draw up many conclusions from a single source with Ne, she decides more with her morals/Fi than goes with the group or influencing the group like an Fe would do, she uses Te to swiftly and decisively carry out her plans, and she has inferior Si so she doesn't really draw upon past experiences to shape her plans, though it does influence her in unconscious ways every so often.
Some examples of her ENFP in effect are how Leliana perceives the will of the Maker in the first conversation you had with her in DAO, the way she was able to distort Justinia's views to fit her own in DAI, the way she wants to grant freedom to the mages while ignoring a lot of evidence stacked up against their freedom, and the way she's able to break down the noble's shoes in the Wicked Heart and Wicked Eyes scenario. All of these point to ENFP for Leliana, not ENFJ.
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