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This is the reason why I don't like MBTI tests. They never really test you on your functions, which are really the most important thing about the MBTI system. The fact is that INTJ and INTP are extremely different personality types despite one letter change and no one would be oscillating between these 2 types as easily as a test will claim.


ENFPs and ISTJs share the exact same functions just reversed. If both types are healthy, they can easily get along because they'd know exactly how each other feels and thinks like. In comparison, an ISTJ would be more likely to see an ENFJ as being a fake brown noser and an ENFJ would think of an ISTJ as a self absorbed stiff.

Leliana is ENFP because her functions stack up as Ne-Fi-Te-Si. She interprets things differently than how they are and is able to draw up many conclusions from a single source with Ne, she decides more with her morals/Fi than goes with the group or influencing the group like an Fe would do, she uses Te to swiftly and decisively carry out her plans, and she has inferior Si so she doesn't really draw upon past experiences to shape her plans, though it does influence her in unconscious ways every so often.

Some examples of her ENFP in effect are how Leliana perceives the will of the Maker in the first conversation you had with her in DAO, the way she was able to distort Justinia's views to fit her own in DAI, the way she wants to grant freedom to the mages while ignoring a lot of evidence stacked up against their freedom, and the way she's able to break down the noble's shoes in the Wicked Heart and Wicked Eyes scenario. All of these point to ENFP for Leliana, not ENFJ.

ENFJ are dual (best possible complementation and results) relationships to ISTJ actually points on Leliana as ENFJ and that's how relationship between ENFJ and ISTJ described. She is subtle revolutioner and that's how ENFJ described. She fights not for personal freedoms but for general concept of it doing it with recklessness which is very characteristic to ENFJ
I will dig later detailed articles on mbti to proven my words

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This is the reason why I don't like MBTI tests. They never really test you on your functions, which are really the most important thing about the MBTI system. The fact is that INTJ and INTP are extremely different personality types despite one letter change and no one would be oscillating between these 2 types as easily as a test will claim.


ENFPs and ISTJs share the exact same functions just reversed. If both types are healthy, they can easily get along because they'd know exactly how each other feels and thinks like. In comparison, an ISTJ would be more likely to see an ENFJ as being a fake brown noser and an ENFJ would think of an ISTJ as a self absorbed stiff.

Leliana is ENFP because her functions stack up as Ne-Fi-Te-Si. She interprets things differently than how they are and is able to draw up many conclusions from a single source with Ne, she decides more with her morals/Fi than goes with the group or influencing the group like an Fe would do, she uses Te to swiftly and decisively carry out her plans, and she has inferior Si so she doesn't really draw upon past experiences to shape her plans, though it does influence her in unconscious ways every so often.

Some examples of her ENFP in effect are how Leliana perceives the will of the Maker in the first conversation you had with her in DAO, the way she was able to distort Justinia's views to fit her own in DAI, the way she wants to grant freedom to the mages while ignoring a lot of evidence stacked up against their freedom, and the way she's able to break down the noble's shoes in the Wicked Heart and Wicked Eyes scenario. All of these point to ENFP for Leliana, not ENFJ.

ENFJ are dual (best possible complementation and results) relationships to ISTJ actually points on Leliana as ENFJ and that's how relationship between ENFJ and ISTJ described. She is subtle revolutioner and that's how ENFJ described. She fights not for personal freedoms but for general concept of it doing it with recklessness which is very characteristic to ENFJ
She is idealistic and not pragmaticist, and don't mind means but cares about ends.
I will dig later detailed articles on mbti to proven my words

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I did one of these Myers-Briggs tests in university, it is a load of ole tripe I tells ye.



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ENFJ are dual (best possible complementation and results) relationships to ISTJ actually points on Leliana as ENFJ and that's how relationship between ENFJ and ISTJ described. She is subtle revolutioner and that's how ENFJ described. She fights not for personal freedoms but for general concept of it doing it with recklessness which is very characteristic to ENFJ
She is idealistic and not pragmaticist, and don't mind means but cares about ends.
I will dig later detailed articles on mbti to proven my words

 

You're not even saying about the functions which are the core of the MBTI; you're just tossing out generalizations of a type and saying that she's an ENFJ just because she gets along with ISTJs. What does that have to do with anything?



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I'd say Josephine is INFJ/ENFJ and Blackwall would be ISFJ. 


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I'd say Josephine is INFJ/ENFJ and Blackwall would be ISFJ. 

 

Yeah, I can see this. Josie would probably be ENFJ since she needs to bounce ideas from her staff/the inquisitor which most introverts aren't likely to do and I can see Si/Fe in Blackwall more than Fi/Se.


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Updating the OP now! :)



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As an INFP I gotta agree that Merrill's also one. :bandit:

Any thoughts on Sigrun, Loghain, Bethany? I'm pretty bad at this.

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Yeah, that's terrible of me. I know. How dare I let everyone else live their lives as they want? :rolleyes:

 

Given that underneath the libertarian lies a Christian conversative, I think you ought to take the libertarian ... :P

 

I was being sarcastic. And it's oxymoronic. "Imposing freedom" ;)



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I don't know much about other types, but I'm an INFP and I feel like Cole is one as well. He feels like me except very exaggerated to a 'spirit' extreme. :P



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As an INFP I gotta agree that Merrill's also one. :bandit:

Any thoughts on Sigrun, Loghain, Bethany? I'm pretty bad at this.

 

I'm gonna go with ISTP for Sigrun. Although she's more of an ambivert.


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As an INFP I gotta agree that Merrill's also one. :bandit:

Any thoughts on Sigrun, Loghain, Bethany? I'm pretty bad at this.

 

Sigrun - ISTP

Loghain - ISTJ

Bethany - IxFJ


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As an INFP I gotta agree that Merrill's also one. :bandit:

Any thoughts on Sigrun, Loghain, Bethany? I'm pretty bad at this.

 

I think that Loghain is ISTP and Bethany can be ISFJ or INFJ. I don't know about Sigrun, I feel like I don't grasp her character enough to determine what she would be, however I think that she's E-type.. maybe ESTP.


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I think that Loghain is ISTP and Bethany can be ISFJ or INFJ. I don't know about Sigrun, I feel like I don't grasp her character enough to determine what she would be, however I think that she's E-type.. maybe ESTP.

 

I wanted to say ESTP, but she basically just slogs through the Deep Roads 24/7. ESTPs and ESFPs go insane if they can't be around people. And at the end of Awakening, quietly packs her bags and disappears for the Calling. There's no grandstanding at all. It's not very ESTP-ish to be low key. Oghren would throw a party first.


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You're not even saying about the functions which are the core of the MBTI; you're just tossing out generalizations of a type and saying that she's an ENFJ just because she gets along with ISTJs. What does that have to do with anything?

I am out of home and posting from phone , I do not want to drop stuff because my not native English will sound worse than quotations from articles. Once I will get to it I will argument my point.

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I am out of home and posting from phone , I do not want to drop stuff because my not native English will sound worse than quotations from articles. Once I will get to it I will argument my point.

 

I hope you'll post facts and evidence from the character herself instead of a silly generalization like "ENFJs can only get along with ISTJs!"



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It could be that Cass is ISTJ.. I see plenty of F in her though. Maybe I just value Fi a lot and interpret as Fe. When Fi people agree, it's as sentimental or friendly as Fe is.



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I hope you'll post facts and evidence from the character herself instead of a silly generalization like "ENFJs can only get along with ISTJs!"

I am ENFJ myself and I base on it plus my knowledge, but to post proper proof I need some time at home to assemble argumentation. Just be patient and it will come, eventually.

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It could be that Cass is ISTJ.. I see plenty of F in her though. Maybe I just value Fi a lot and interpret as Fe. When Fi people agree, it's as sentimental or friendly as Fe is.

 

Yeah, Cass does have a fair amount of F, which is why ISTJ (Si-Te-Fi-Ne) fits her more than ESTJ (Te-Si-Ne-Fi). If Cass had Fe, she'd be more direct and comfortable with her feelings instead of stumbling across it like she's prone to do.



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Yeah, Cass does have a fair amount of F, which is why ISTJ (Si-Te-Fi-Ne) fits her more than ESTJ (Te-Si-Ne-Fi). If Cass had Fe, she'd be more direct and comfortable with her feelings instead of stumbling across it like she's prone to do.

 

Yep she seems like ISTJ to me as well when getting to know her character better :)



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I agree. Cass is completely ISTJ. Very exemplar one.

In my first post i mentioned her as ISFJ but i typoed and in later posts i corrected it btw. 



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Yeah, Cass does have a fair amount of F, which is why ISTJ (Si-Te-Fi-Ne) fits her more than ESTJ (Te-Si-Ne-Fi). If Cass had Fe, she'd be more direct and comfortable with her feelings instead of stumbling across it like she's prone to do.

 

Funnily, I said long ago before the game came out that she reminded me of my mom of all people. Now it makes sense (my mom is ISTJ).



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Leliana's Analysis.

 

First analysis of differentyt summaries, from different sources, direct function analysis in 2nd part of the post.:.

 

(Made it fast with reliable resources  and fast data mining)

 

ENFJ

 

The ENFJ is empathetic and insightful, seeing and making connections between people. Action-oriented, and people-centred they make sure that everything is planned, scheduled, organised and people are happy.

 

ENFP

 

Optimistic and hopeful, the outgoing and cheerful nature of the ENFP belies a more sensitive soul who can take criticism to heart and who needs to be liked. They are outgoing, fun, and genuinely like people.

 

no doubt Leliana is not matching to ENFP description but matching ENFJ one,

 

ENFJ 

 

Whilst the ENFJ will encourage trust and openness they may not be so open about how they are feeling, indeed they may not really think about that so focused are they on caring for, and organising others.

 

ENFP

 

An ENFP will wear their heart on their sleeve and has no problem being open. However their values are so important and these are internalised so it may be possible to inadvertently hurt the ENFP.

 

Also, no doubts here which fits to Leliana and which not.

 

ENFJ 

 

Naturally service-driven the ENFJ really does care and will want to apply this energy to tangible outputs, preferably that will help people. They need clarity, real meaning, a worthwhile output and closure.

 

ENFP

 

ENFPs do not like bureaucracy or rules and regulations and they will argue long and eloquently defending their reasons. They are quick and nimble, working in short bursts of energy and need flexibility.

 

ENFJ

 

The ENFJ loves a plan, a clear picture of where they are going and they will work diligently towards the goal. Indeed the ENFJ will feel less comfortable with too many options open, as they need closure.

 

ENFP

 

ENFPs need variety, stimulus and to be surrounded by people. Solitary tasks, targets, repetition, formal structures or hierarchy don’t suit, as they work best in a flexible workplace where relationships are valued.

 

 

etc.

 

Now Keirsey Descritptions:

 

ENFP 

 

Champions (ENFP) delight in novelty. They are optimistic, enthusiastic, and vivacious, craving expressions of strong emotion. With a dramatic flair, they share their experiences with others, hoping to reveal some universal truth or win others over in support of a cause. Attuned to possibilities, Champions scan their environment, probing the emotions, needs, and motivations of others. This sensitivity sometimes conflicts with their intense drive for personal authenticity. Spontaneous and personable, they attract others to their company.[3] Champions are full of energy and can spend great amounts of time discussing ideas and possibilities with others. They always look to find meanings in the world, and are more likely to be the champion of causes rather than of individuals. Living fully in this way is extremely important to them and it is their nature. Champions observe all that is going on around them and are quick to bring peace to any unpleasant interaction. They are not afraid to speak up and defend what they think is right and correct, just, or fair.

 

^^ this is not LEliana

 

The Idealist most committed to guiding others through the doors of life, or along the pathways of learning and understanding, is the type that Keirsey has named the Teacher (Myers's "ENFJ").

Teachers are natural facilitators in all their relationships, encouraging those around them, urging their personal growth, and taking charge of others (particularly of groups) with an extraordinary enthusiasm and confidence. Indeed, Teachers are so expressive and charismatic in their leadership -- in a word, so inspiring -- that they seem in some ways less coercive than the other Idealists. Keirsey says that, though Teachers are both expressive and role-directive, they manage to "command without seeming to do so," not by means of explicit orders, nor through saintly patience, romantic longing, or mute withdrawal, but by kindling in their students and colleagues their own passion for self-exploration and development. Teachers are masters of the art of positive expectation (or "front-loading"), and they communicate their belief in the evolution of the "self" with such a glow of promise that quite often, as Keirsey tells us, their optimism "induces action" in others, and the "desire to live up to [their] expectations."

Teachers bring all this infectious energy to their intimate relationships as well, and they make passionate and delightfully creative companions. However, at such close range the intensity of their wishes for their loved ones can create interpersonal conflict. Teachers can overwhelm their loved ones with their exuberance, and with their Pygmalion presumption that everyone wants to be helped along the path of self-discovery. Then, when their loved ones either resist their pressure or fail to meet their idealistic expectations, Teachers can feel frustrated, disillusioned, or even betrayed by the persons they care most about.

 

Bolded important part - think of things happened in DA:O (Ashes too), and think about Maker and her belief, she loves world and people and Maker and Andraste with passion, but under pressure and failing to meet her idealistic expectations, she feel frustrated and disillusioned with her faith. 

 

Functions.

 

DOMINANT

 

ENFJ - Dominant: Extraverted feeling (Fe)[edit]

Fe seeks social connections and creates harmonious interactions through considerate, enthusiastic, and charming behavior. Fe responds to the explicit (and implicit) wants of others, and may even create an internal conflict between the subject’s own needs and the desire to meet the needs of others.[14]

 

ENFP - Dominant: Extraverted intuition (Ne)[edit]

Ne finds and interprets hidden meanings, using “what if” questions to explore alternatives, allowing multiple possibilities to coexist. This imaginative play weaves together insights and experiences from various sources to form a new whole, which can then become a catalyst to action.

 

She manipulates wants of other people and creates conflicts through her ways she tries to solve things. She is manipulator, and she is very Dominant Fe in DA:O. In DA:I in this function is draw, because there is some truth in Dominant Ne for her , but here only slight glimspes of similarity to ENFP end.

 

AUXILIARY

ENFJ - Auxiliary: Introverted intuition (Ni)[edit]

Attracted to symbolic actions or devices, Ni synthesizes seeming paradoxes to create the previously unimagined. These realizations come with a certainty that demands action to fulfill a new vision of the future, solutions that may include complex systems or universal truths.[15]

ENFP - Auxiliary: Introverted feeling (Fi)[edit]

 

Fi filters information based on interpretations of worth, forming judgments according to criteria that are often intangible. Fi constantly balances an internal set of values such as harmony and authenticity. Attuned to subtle distinctions, Fi innately senses what is true and what is false in a situation.[13]

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Leliana is Auxiliary Ni. She always have solutions which include "complex systems of universal truths", and she often proposes quite "fresh " approaches, some may sound odd, new and weird.

 

TERTIARY

 

ENFJ - Tertiary: Extraverted sensing (Se)[edit]

Se focuses on the experiences and sensations of the immediate, physical world. With an acute awareness of the present surroundings, it brings relevant facts and details to the forefront and may lead to spontaneous action.[16]

ENFP - Tertiary: Extraverted thinking (Te)[edit]

Te organizes and schedules ideas and the environment to ensure the efficient, productive pursuit of objectives. Te seeks logical explanations for actions, events, and conclusions, looking for faulty reasoning and lapses in sequence.[14]

 

Leliana is not thinker or logic planner. She is Se schemer, She have more "Se" approach on how she acts - and often acts spontanely, and have very few ways to solve things which she always ready to propose - "covert them". All reasoning coming from her is word "perhaps" and she runs to action proposition right after it. Leliana is clearly Tertiary SE.

 

INFERIOR

 

ENFJ - Inferior: Introverted thinking (Ti)[edit]

Ti seeks precision, such as the exact word to express an idea. It notices the minute distinctions that define the essence of things, then analyzes and classifies them. Ti examines all sides of an issue, looking to solve problems while minimizing effort and risk. It uses models to root out logical inconsistency.[17]

ENFP - Inferior: Introverted sensing (Si)[edit]

Si collects data in the present moment and compares it with past experiences, a process that sometimes evokes the feelings associated with memory, as if the subject were reliving it. Seeking to protect what is familiar, Si draws upon history to form goals and expectations about what will happen in the future.[15]

 

This is no brainer. Leliana have very shining and sure TI here, hands down.

PS> I wont dive into shadow functions because there alot of proofs and no more stuff needed.

 

Obcourse all that based on my perception on Leliana in scope of the whole DA trilogy



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I'm enjoying the detailed analyses we are getting of the different characters! :)



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I'm enjoying the detailed analyses we are getting of the different characters! :)

 

Agreed. Good job..

 

whether it's accurate or not is another matter. :D