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[leadintea]

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Good job! The functions were enough to convince me that Leliana leans toward ENFJ more than ENFP.

[Blackstork]

Good job! The functions were enough to convince me that Leliana leans toward ENFJ more than ENFP.

Thanks and cheers

[Sah291]

DA needs more INTPs. I don't want to be represented by the Architect.

 

Agreed, lol....

 

The Architect is textbook evil INTP, and thus my favorite DA villain so far... But I'd like to see more... who aren't darkspawn..

[leadintea]

Agreed, lol....

 

The Architect is textbook evil INTP, and thus my favorite DA villain so far... But I'd like to see more... who aren't darkspawn..

 

Minaeve seems INTP, though she's a nobody so... yeah...

[Blackstork]

Any oppinion on Scout Harding's type?... i need to think and dig it abit... she is adorable, Its not clear she is E or I, seems SF or NF something. Need deeper function digging. Could be INFP or ISFJ or INFJ? I more inclined towards INFJ (Especially the part where she shots both templars and mages with "smirk" face at opening Hinterlands cutscene), but need deeper fuction analysis... 

[rpgfan321]

So I wasn't the only one thinking about this on my spare time  

[Kappa Neko]

Ouh fun!
I love MBTI. Fits most people I know perfectly. I'm a firm believer in it. But I only know a few very well, mostly mine and those similar.

I am an INFJ and I see a lot if Solas in me (unfortunately). Solas is INFJ gone dark. What happens when an INFJ becomes rigid in their world view. This coldness he displays when he's displeased is very typical of that type.
INFPs on the other hand are much warmer. And much less certain of things. INFJs are pleasant on the outside, like Solas as first. We are good actors, we can get along with anyone. Because we're so diplomatic and understand what others want to hear. But inside, an INFJ has judged you in two seconds.
However, an INFJ is at the same time a lot more detached and indifferent than an INFP. We will not try to convince you like a P type. We are very sure of who we are and what we believe. We don't need approval from anyone. INFJs are intense people because of this.
Solas has exactly this quiet confidence. A disillusioned idealistic INFJ turns cold, condescending and might one day just snap. I know because I have to keep that at bay all the time. It's the dark flipside of being too sensitive.

Cassandra reminds me a LOT my best friend who's an ENFJ. However, I don't know if Cass is one. My best friend is only 15% extroverted and used to be very shy as a child. My mother is an ISFJ but I find that type too... passive?
So I would actually call Cassandra slightly slightly extroverted. Like Cass my best friend has an admirable focus on her goals. She is passionate and kind. But stubborn and moody. She's quick to explode but apologizes as quickly.
My friend has boundless energy which is why I'm reluctant to label Cass introverted. I am highly introverted and just the thought of doing all these things my friend does simultaniously makes me panic. I don't have the energy for it. I don't derive energy from pursuing my goals. But to me it seems you HAVE to be able to fuel your energy level by interacting with people if you want to keep doing what Cass does. My best friend draws ALL her energy from working on her goals. Or physically working out. Multiple lines of education at the same. She's only happy when she's so busy it's almost too much. Cassandra is equally restless to me. She always needs a goal or she goes crazy. My friend all the way. But could be an Aries thing? (Not convinced of astrology at all but fits my friend to a T.)
Cass is definitely a judger though. Goes by the rules. And a feeler because she's HIGHLY emotional. It's what drivers her.

I'm not very familiar with the other MBTI types. But had to laugh at Wynne being labelled a fellow INFJ. Guess that's why I liked her so much and agreed with pretty much everything she said. There's the rigidness again ;P
We are VERY moral, bit preachy people!

Funny, the companions I like best are all J types on that list^^

[Blackstork]

Ouh fun!
I love MBTI. Fits most people I know perfectly. I'm a firm believer in it. But I only know a few very well, mostly mine and those similar.

I am an INFJ and I see a lot if Solas in me (unfortunately). Solas is INFJ gone dark. What happens when an INFJ becomes rigid in their world view. This coldness he displays when he's displeased is very typical of that type.
INFPs on the other hand are much warmer. And much less certain of things. INFJs are pleasant on the outside, like Solas as first. We are good actors, we can get along with anyone. Because we're so diplomatic and understand what others want to hear. But inside, an INFJ has judged you in two seconds.
However, an INFJ is at the same time a lot more detached and indifferent than an INFP. We will not try to convince you like a P type. We are very sure of who we are and what we believe. We don't need approval from anyone. INFJs are intense people because of this.
Solas has exactly this quiet confidence. A disillusioned idealistic INFJ turns cold, condescending and might one day just snap. I know because I have to keep that at bay all the time. It's the dark flipside of being too sensitive.

Cassandra reminds me a LOT my best friend who's an ENFJ. However, I don't know if Cass is one. My best friend is only 15% extroverted and used to be very shy as a child. My mother is an ISFJ but I find that type too... passive?
So I would actually call Cassandra slightly slightly extroverted. Like Cass my best friend has an admirable focus on her goals. She is passionate and kind. But stubborn and moody. She's quick to explode but apologizes as quickly.
My friend has boundless energy which is why I'm reluctant to label Cass introverted. I am highly introverted and just the thought of doing all these things my friend does simultaniously makes me panic. I don't have the energy for it. I don't derive energy from pursuing my goals. But to me it seems you HAVE to be able to fuel your energy level by interacting with people if you want to keep doing what Cass does. My best friend draws ALL her energy from working on her goals. Or physically working out. Multiple lines of education at the same. She's only happy when she's so busy it's almost too much. Cassandra is equally restless to me. She always needs a goal or she goes crazy. My friend all the way. But could be an Aries thing? (Not convinced of astrology at all but fits my friend to a T.)
Cass is definitely a judger though. Goes by the rules. And a feeler because she's HIGHLY emotional. It's what drivers her.

I'm not very familiar with the other MBTI types. But had to laugh at Wynne being labelled a fellow INFJ. Guess that's why I liked her so much and agreed with pretty much everything she said. There's the rigidness again ;P
We are VERY moral, bit preachy people!

Funny, the companions I like best are all J types on that list^^

Cassandra is clear ISTJ.

She is not feeler, she is not sure about own feelings. ISTJ also marked as being bit misguiding abit about their I (they may seem like E) because their certain drive and slight "agression"

They called "Agressors" , and their duals, ENFJs need that, while covering and making ease for their shadow fuctions .

She is exemplar ISTJ at its finest (again, in my first post about her in this thread i just misplaced letter, later corrected it, and from start had ISTJ in mind)

 

If you take descritpions of ISTJ they fit 100% to Cassandra: here is small example

 

ISTJs a vital core to many families, as well as organizations that uphold traditions, rules and standards, such as law offices, regulatory bodies and military. People with the ISTJ personality type enjoy taking responsibility for their actions, and take pride in the work they do - when working towards a goal, ISTJs hold back none of their time and energy completing each relevant task with accuracy and patience.

ISTJs don't make many assumptions, preferring instead to analyze their surroundings, check their facts and arrive at practical courses of action. ISTJ personalities are no-nonsense, and when they've made a decision, they will relay the facts necessary to achieve their goal, expecting others to grasp the situation immediately and take action. ISTJs have little tolerance for indecisiveness, but lose patience even more quickly if their chosen course is challenged with impractical theories, especially if they ignore key details - if challenges becomes time-consuming debates, ISTJs can become noticeably angry as deadlines tick nearer.

I wont even dive into function analysis, she is pure, cleanest form ISTJ.

[Dermain]

It's typical to test like that. 

 

I'll just say a good rule of thumb is keeping in mind what makes you most comfortable. MBTI was originally just meant to be about "preferences". Not a rigid personality type. We can all do certain things, but sometimes we have to force ourselves or feel bored or exhausted with some tasks. That's a good sign that you're outside your "preferred functions", so to speak.

 

That is my main objection to it. There is no reason for a test to allow a person to take the test and receive different results both times. It's also a problem with the test that you can only rate in either P or J with no in between. You're always A or B and except for the outliers, it doesn't catch everyone.

 

Typical INFP. Always focused on the possibilities.

 

Now I know you're not INFJ

 

Not necessarily. 

 

If she tested differently because of what was happening in her life then that doesn't really make her that "type". 

 

The other side of that coin is that she thought that if she answered one way because of X life events that it would make her look worse on the test, and she would then answer differently because of that feeling (which is a factor NOT addressed by the Myers-Brigg).

 

The Myers-Briggs has a very bad test-retest reliability. Which is not a good thing. 

 

Agreed. Good job..

 

Whether it's accurate or not is another matter.

 

It probably isn't. It's similar to a horoscope as people may identify themselves as being an entirely different types than what the test sat they are.

 

[Addai]

Ouh fun!
I love MBTI. Fits most people I know perfectly. I'm a firm believer in it. But I only know a few very well, mostly mine and those similar.

I am an INFJ and I see a lot if Solas in me (unfortunately). Solas is INFJ gone dark. What happens when an INFJ becomes rigid in their world view. This coldness he displays when he's displeased is very typical of that type.
INFPs on the other hand are much warmer. And much less certain of things. INFJs are pleasant on the outside, like Solas as first. We are good actors, we can get along with anyone. Because we're so diplomatic and understand what others want to hear. But inside, an INFJ has judged you in two seconds.
However, an INFJ is at the same time a lot more detached and indifferent than an INFP. We will not try to convince you like a P type. We are very sure of who we are and what we believe. We don't need approval from anyone. INFJs are intense people because of this.
Solas has exactly this quiet confidence. A disillusioned idealistic INFJ turns cold, condescending and might one day just snap. I know because I have to keep that at bay all the time. It's the dark flipside of being too sensitive.

Are you possibly misreading him as a cold/ jaded F instead of just a T being a T? I think most of us in the Solas thread concluded either INTP or INTJ.

[Panda]

The Myers-Briggs has a very bad test-retest reliability. Which is not a good thing. 

 

Hmm every time I have done the test I have come off INFJ though. I have done it different sites too ^^

 

But I guess it's hard to put people in these tight boxes. Some of cource will bet between the boxes and not strictly into one. I still like these personaltity tests, they are fun. Before MBTI I was intrested in Four temperaments and their combinations, Melancholic-Sanguine was what I got as my type there ^^;

[Blackstork]

 

 

 

 

It probably isn't. It's similar to a horoscope as people may identify themselves as being an entirely different types than what the test sat they are.

 

 

MBTI is still psycology and have alot of reason , to certain degree. IT could be applied to fiction characters, and some of analysis is pretty precise following very clear defenitions of Jungean functions and behaviour patterns.

 

Its never perfect, and you cant define people as "just X type" because there much beyond that.

But there is still classification, which relates to very certain, limited set, of persona's traits/features and classifies it. It's especially applicable to fictional characters in less "globallistic" world which is thedas and you can define very distinct tendencies and affinities within certain characters.

[Sah291]

Are you possibly misreading him as a cold/ jaded F instead of just a T being a T? I think most of us in the Solas thread concluded either INTP or INTJ.

 

Solas strikes me as having a lot of empathy, and he's not really socially awkward either (like say Mordin from ME).

I could see a jaded INFJ who just doesn't want to try anymore. But it's hard to tell with him considering how much he keeps hidden. He does have a lot of *NTP-ish traits, though. I will say as an INTP I was really drawn to his character. Both him and Cole. Solas' romance was like candy.

 

Spoiler

The biggest deciding factor to me is his dialogue at the Winter Palace. An INTP would never enjoy the game....if they had any patience to participate in it at all... an ENTP might, perhaps.

[Kappa Neko]

Cassandra is clear ISTJ.
She is not feeler, she is not sure about own feelings. ISTJ also marked as being bit misguiding abit about their I (they may seem like E) because their certain drive and slight "agression"
They called "Agressors" , and their duals, ENFJs need that, while covering and making ease for their shadow fuctions .
She is exemplar ISTJ at its finest (again, in my first post about her in this thread i just misplaced letter, later corrected it, and from start had ISTJ in mind)

If you take descritpions of ISTJ they fit 100% to Cassandra: here is small example
I wont even dive into function analysis, she is pure, cleanest form ISTJ.

I know little about ISTJ. The description does fit. Thanks. I was simply pointing out how very much she reminds me of my best friend. MBTI is tricky. Because it's not so much about what you do but how your mind works. Two people might arrive at the same conclusion, but how they got there is what MBTI is about. INFJ and INFP have very similar profiles, enjoy the same kind of things even. But from close observation I have figured out the difference. And it's very obvious now how my INFP friends are different from me.
The profile of one type is not clear enough. You have to compare two or more actual people and learn how they think to see it. And even then we're all individuals and there are infinite variations.
But hey, I'm an INFJ, I can see connections everywhere. Doesn't mean they actually exist ;P

[Seraphim24]

I did graphic about DA characters before DAI. There I determined that Cullen is ISFJ, Cassandra ESTJ and Leliana ENFP. DAI gives a lot of information about the characters however so these might not be right, well Cullen and Cassandra I believe still are ISFJ and ESTJ but Leliana might not be ENFP at all ^^;

 

Anyhow, here is the whole graphic if someone is intrested:

 

 

 

 

I feel like F and T are reversed... what people commonly interpret as T I see as F and vice versa. I also see E as functionally just T and N and F as basically the same thing though so.... yeah...just my own personal re-interpretation. The rest of MBTI I found too confusing for the most part.

 

Being sort of "open, friendly" in this stereotypical sense I see as logic types using social interaction based on rules (be 'good,' do this and that). People who kind of invent interactions or change gears might seem either unsociable or diversionary to others I see as F (or N) might not seem like conventional "feelers" because they aren't directly empathing but directness in a literal sense isn't really related to the issue and is usually a sign of mastery over the forces of human interaction. Usually they have a deep understanding of the situation and are just kind toying with the forces to create certain impacts or select outcomes. This fluidity seems to create an image of forcefulness that people associate with "logic" but is often anything but rational.

 

So... Merrill, Wynne, and Leliana, Cullen, Anders, I see as thinkers. Moreover they all attach to institutions as a source of power in a sort of systemic way, like templar orders, bard-dom, elven history, the role of a grandmother. Fenris, the Architect, and Varric (depending on which version of Varric) I sort of see as feelers. They base philosophies more on forces of chaos and chance.

 

Morrigan and Anora are still basically thinkers to me, just heavier N in conjunction with the T, leading them to a middleground between the above two types to a degree.

 

Arguably though, the bias is sort of deep rooted and DA represents pretty much a conglomeration of thinking types, the differences being the relationship to N or absence thereof.

[Blackstork]

I feel like F and T are reversed... what people commonly interpret as T I see as F and vice versa. I also see E as functionally just T and N and F as basically the same thing though so.... yeah...just my own personal re-interpretation. The rest of MBTI I found too confusing for the most part.

 

Being sort of "open, friendly" in this stereotypical sense I see as logic types using social interaction based on rules (be 'good,' do this and that). People who kind of invent interactions or change gears might seem either unsociable or diversionary to others I see as F (or N) might not seem like conventional "feelers" because they aren't directly empathing but directness in a literal sense isn't really related to the issue and is usually a sign of mastery over the forces of human interaction. Usually they have a deep understanding of the situation and are just kind toying with the forces to create certain impacts or select outcomes.

 

So... Merrill, Wynne, and Leliana, Anders, I see as thinkers. Fenris, the Architect, and Varric (depending on which version of Varric) I sort of see as feelers.

 

Morrigan and Anora are still basically thinkers to me, just heavier N in conjunction with the T.

 

Arguably the bias is sort of deep rooted and DA represents pretty much a conglomeration of thinking types, the differences being the relationship to N or absence thereof.

 

You misinterpret many feelers as thinkers. Perhaps thats your own bias which originates to your own functions.

Leliana is feeler. Wynne is Feeler. Anders is Feeler. 

 

Btw i think that Anders is ENFP. I disagree on classification him as S type. He is solely N astronaut/freedom-lover, and he is talkative, outwards-directed, globally-involved, subtly extroverted type as ENFP could appear.  Imo he strikes me as clear ENFP. ISTJ in his shadow seems pretty obvious. 

 

Just check ENFP functions in Leliana analysis. ENFP actually fit Anders 100%.  

 

those are shadow functions of ENFP, and anyone knowing meaning of what shadow functions are will agree with factthat Anders is clear ENFP :

shadow fucntions for ENFP:

• Introverted intuition (Ni): Attracted to symbolic actions or devices, Ni synthesizes seeming paradoxes to create the previously unimagined. These realizations come with a certainty that demands action to fulfill a new vision of the future, solutions that may include complex systems or universal truths.^[17]
• Extraverted feeling (Fe): Fe seeks social connections and creates harmonious interactions through polite, considerate, and appropriate behavior. Fe responds to the explicit (and implicit) wants of others, and may even create an internal conflict between the subject’s own needs and the desire to meet the needs of others.^[18]
• Introverted thinking (Ti): Ti seeks precision, such as the exact word to express an idea. It notices the minute distinctions that define the essence of things, then analyzes and classifies them. Ti examines all sides of an issue, looking to solve problems while minimizing effort and risk. It uses models to root out logical inconsistency.^[19]
• Extraverted sensing (Se): Extraverted sensing focuses on the experiences and sensations of the immediate, physical world. With an acute awareness of the present surroundings, it brings relevant facts and details to the forefront and may lead to spontaneous action

 

Thats exactly what he did in his shadow phase in end of DA:II, in DA:A he was exemplar cognitive ENFP 

[Addai]

Solas strikes me as having a lot of empathy, and he's not really socially awkward either (like say Mordin from ME).
I could see a jaded INFJ who just doesn't want to try anymore. But it's hard to tell with him considering how much he keeps hidden. He does have a lot of *NTP-ish traits, though. I will say as an INTP I was really drawn to his character. Both him and Cole. Solas' romance was like candy.
 

Spoiler

The biggest deciding factor to me is his dialogue at the Winter Palace. An INTP would never enjoy the game....if they had any patience to participate in it at all... an ENTP might, perhaps.

He's not participating, though, just observing. It's a chess match for him.

T's can empathize, but they do so according to principles- he empathizes with helpless people, but has a hard time seeing mitigating circumstances like with the mages in his personal quest.

[Seraphim24]

You misinterpret many feelers as thinkers. Perhaps thats your own bias which originates to your own functions.

Leliana is feeler. Wynne is Feeler. Anders is Feeler. 

 

Btw i think that Anders is ENFP. I disagree on classification him as S type. He is solely N astronaut/freedom-lover, and he is talkative, outwards-directed, globally-involved, subtly extroverted type as ENFP could appear. It could be so, but need more detailed function digging. Imo he strikes me as clear ENFP. ISTJ in his shadow seems pretty obvious.

 

Well I said at the outset that I disagree with the conventional interpretations and interpretations so you can hardly be surprised I'm not surprised to see you say that, I see Leliana, Wynne, and Anders as primarily narrowly practical and focused on obtaining strict goals and measuring outcomes.

 

I'm was aware before you made your post that people have such feelings and will likely hold on to them, but unfortunately the way I view things has had profound predictive power beyond if they were organized differently, and thus I stand by it all. I almost see the way "feeling" types represent themselves as a marketing gimmick, "I am empathetic and your friend" as a way to obtain this or that. If logic or rationality were associated with positivity in the same as feeling or empathy I suspect they'd swap right over.

 

Feeling is an act, not a cause or calling, nor is registered by affilitations or declaring transparency, it's organic and moves without limits or liabilities. Those 3 are far too conservative to stand on the other side of that boundary IMO.

 

 

Good job! The functions were enough to convince me that Leliana leans toward ENFJ more than ENFP.

 

Oh my god is that an Ozma avatar? Talk about obscure... still cool though...

[LightningPoodle]

What does it mean if I couldn't be bothered to finish the last few questions?

[Sah291]

He's not participating, though, just observing. It's a chess match for him.

T's can empathize, but they do so according to principles- he empathizes with helpless people, but has a hard time seeing mitigating circumstances like with the mages in his personal quest.

 

I know a lot of INTPs who enjoy political philosophy very much...but I've never met one who says they get a thrill from social politics. Most seem to find it annoying or a waste of time. They like theory, but not actually doing. So I guess it depends how much is really him observing from the fade versus past personal experience.

[Panda]

I feel like F and T are reversed... what people commonly interpret as T I see as F and vice versa. I also see E as functionally just T and N and F as basically the same thing though so.... yeah...just my own personal re-interpretation. The rest of MBTI I found too confusing for the most part.

 

Being sort of "open, friendly" in this stereotypical sense I see as logic types using social interaction based on rules (be 'good,' do this and that). People who kind of invent interactions or change gears might seem either unsociable or diversionary to others I see as F (or N) might not seem like conventional "feelers" because they aren't directly empathing but directness in a literal sense isn't really related to the issue and is usually a sign of mastery over the forces of human interaction. Usually they have a deep understanding of the situation and are just kind toying with the forces to create certain impacts or select outcomes. This fluidity seems to create an image of forcefulness that people associate with "logic" but is often anything but rational.

 

So... Merrill, Wynne, and Leliana, Anders, I see as thinkers. Fenris, the Architect, and Varric (depending on which version of Varric) I sort of see as feelers.

 

Morrigan and Anora are still basically thinkers to me, just heavier N in conjunction with the T.

 

Arguably the bias is sort of deep rooted and DA represents pretty much a conglomeration of thinking types, the differences being the relationship to N or absence thereof.

 

The descriptions are combinations from what I have read in various sites about the types. Characters that are paired with the types is my interpretation and they are up to debate

 

I see Merrill quite F since she lets her emotions to affect her much. Anders.. well actually I have Awakening Anders in my chart XD I feel like DA2 Anders personality is combination of his and Justice's. I think Justice is ISTJ. Leliana's I'm not sure.. I think she appeared in DAO as ENFP but was that mask of bard or attempt to be redempt herself and act like a goodie? Probaply.

 

I just think that Fenris, Architect and Varric are more thinking types. ISFJ wouldn't fit to Fenris, INTP's type label usually is Architect XD and Varric.. well I'm not as convinced about him but I think the description of ENTP is best.. at least to DA2 Varric.

[Blackstork]

The descriptions are combinations from what I have read in various sites about the types. Characters that are paired with the types is my interpretation and they are up to debate

 

I see Merrill quite F since she lets her emotions to affect her much. Anders.. well actually I have Awakening Anders in my chart XD I feel like DA2 Anders personality is combination of his and Justice's. I think Justice is ISTJ. Leliana's I'm not sure.. I think she appeared in DAO as ENFP but was that mask of bard or attempt to be redempt herself and act like a goodie? Probaply.

 

I just think that Fenris, Architect and Varric are more thinking types. ISFJ wouldn't fit to Fenris, INTP's type label usually is Architect XD and Varric.. well I'm not as convinced about him but I think the description of ENTP is best.. at least to DA2 Varric.

Leliana is ENFJ in her cognitive in DA:O and ENFJ in shadow in DA:I (experiencing very characteristic to ENFJ "downfall of faith" frustration crisis)

Anders is ENFP in cognitive in DA:A and ENFP in shadow in DA:II, he is N extraverted emotionally-fragile freedom lover. (ENFP need their caretaker duals ISTPs to ensure their clear emotions will not be hurt, they are very softies, fragile and children like inside). ENFP is most independance-lovers (fanatical ones) from all 16 types. If you make proper function analysis Anders will emerge as exemplar, pure ENFP, which dived into shadow phase, probably , parially, instead of being covered by caretaker ISTP, he gots enforcer ISTJ inside, which instead of covering his shadow, brought it up at its fullest, hence the conflict.

Precise fucntion analysis makes it obvious.

[Cosmia]

Leliana is ENFJ in her cognitive in DA:O and ENFJ in shadow in DA:I

Anders is ENFP in cognitive in DA:A and ENFP in shadow in DA:II

Precise fucntion analysis makes it obvious.

Could you explain the cognitive vs shadow thing? I have never heard of it before. 

[Blackstork]

Could you explain the cognitive vs shadow thing? I have never heard of it before. 

Simply put Cognitive is how you reason act and percieve/judge, your Concious.

 

 

Shadow is un-developed , un-controlled functions, which remain always in unconcious, and come out in extremee strees, conflict, weakness and fatigue.

Because they are like that they are weak spots. The best compativbilitiy when partner covers and comforts your shadow functions, while worst case when your partner press and raise them up (it happens when your shadow are his cognitive consious ones) and opposite. So, while for you its something taboo, and you hide it in shadow parts of your personality and need real effort to bring those functions up, for other this is bread and butter, most developed fucntions with which he swing around, and thats what could bring pain and discomfort to you, if you  have same functions which are concious for your mate in your shadow uncouncious.

Excuse me i am not native english speaker, but i hope this free explanation from my head is enough. I could data mine for some sceintific article quotations, but i am sure you can do that yourself ,too. 

 

I am sure that it will give you more understanding of what it is if you just data mine in articles. Its hard to explain to me because i am not native english speaker and my own perception of this term might not be as precise as definition in scientific article.

 

For example , while developed ENFP and ISTJ types can get along, if they balance and undesrtand with whom they are dealing and have certain level of moral and spiritual development, without it they may bring each others shadow functions up , may disturb that hidden taboo places which may awake as  angry bees swarms and come out. What is regular and easy to control and manipulate for one, might take great effort and alot of inner resources for other. 

Best case when someone comforts your shadow function , complementing it with solutions from his own fucntions. Such cases called "Duals" .

 

As for Anders example i am sure he is ENFP united with ISTJ, hence the fireworks.

 

Developed types work and have some slight control and understanding and conciousness towards their shadows, while un-developed run from their shadow functions, deny , hide them. Shadow functions are broken mirrors of what those functions are being cognitive concious, primary ones.