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[Willowhugger]

I am Mageneto.

I am the most magey-mage mage who ever lived.

Hawke, the Hero, and the Herald are all mages.

I consider it very very much Professor X vs. the world.

 

And...

 

I just conscripted the mages.

 

I am stunned by my own decision. Yet, perhaps I shouldn't be so surprised. I also stabbed Anders in the chest because mages need to police themselves. I hate Vivienne, I hate what she stands for, and I think mages should be free. I also think mages should be RESPONSIBLE for their actions, though.

 

In the end, the only thing I love more than mage freedom is freedom for all beings.

And allying with Tevinter could not be stomached.

You broke my heart Fiona.

Anyone else have anything they never expected to do but did?

[Lady Artifice]

 

Anyone else have anything they never expected to do but did?

 

 

Side with someone else against Varric.

 

Although there was Legacy, but that was pretty mild in comparison.

[AlexiaRevan]

Yeah..I did what I always do...Let Mage roam freeeeeeeeeeee and watch as Dissprovals fly ya by 

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

I never thought I would conscript the mages either but I fixed that by reloading and making allies out of the templars. 

[raging_monkey]

Even magento spanked his kids... i support mage freedom, not only morally but just to see what happens... plus its more a challenge in-game

[rda]

I made Vivienne the divine.

I felt she was the best of bad options. Hardened Leliana is terrifying. Cassandra sounds like she'd be a terrible choice (the epilogue says she did fine, but I honestly couldn't see putting someone on the throne who hated politics as much as she did.). So, Vivienne.

[Dune01]

I made Vivienne the divine.

I felt she was the best of bad options. Hardened Leliana is terrifying. Cassandra sounds like she'd be a terrible choice (the epilogue says she did fine, but I honestly couldn't see putting someone on the throne who hated politics as much as she did.). So, Vivienne.

Well you didn't have to harden Leliana. When she is 'soft', she makes a great and radical Divine. Best out of the three options at least.

[Willowhugger]

My reaction to Fiona's alliance with Tevinter?

This.

 

[raging_monkey]

My reaction to Fiona's alliance with Tevinter?
This.
 

when the mass effect writers came in XD

[hong]

This is in Mass Effect 3, but never mind that.

Spoiler

I shot Samara's daughter at the ardat-yakshi monastery. That was by FAR the most traumatic experience I've had in my videogaming career.

[Willowhugger]

It helps to be on the same page, it seems.

 

It turns out, actually, a lot of mages DON'T appreciate they're not fighting for the freedom of all people but themselves alone.

 

I feel like Connor in Assassin's Creed 3.

 

Only Connor is President for Life with dictatorial powers.

Seriously, though, I should have seen it coming. Anders used to talk about how Tevinter was awesome.

[raging_monkey]

This is in Mass Effect 3, but never mind that.

Spoiler

I shot Samara's daughter at the ardat-yakshi monastery. That was by FAR the most traumatic experience I've had in my videogaming career.

they force that paragon/renegade crap... i felt no grey just "mage-antichrist, templars- jesus" lol

[Sports72Xtrm]

It helps to be on the same page, it seems.

It turns out, actually, a lot of mages DON'T appreciate they're not fighting for the freedom of all people but themselves alone.

I feel like Connor in Assassin's Creed 3.

Only Connor is President for Life with dictatorial powers.

They were manipulated and caught in an act of entrapment. If this is why Fiona do that thread then let me save you some time, they were about to be annihilated, Fiona was time magic manipulated, couldn't back out, your inquisitor came in and took advantage of a bunch of people who were wronged because you got them by the balls. It was harsh in my opinion but what isn't unjust in Thedas? As Tyrion says:

https://www.youtube....h?v=IWIDp2Uyb-8

[rda]

Well you didn't have to harden Leliana. When she is 'soft', she makes a great and radical Divine. Best out of the three options at least.

Yeah, but I'm not replaying from a save 60 hours ago to get a different divine.

[herkles]

Well you didn't have to harden Leliana. When she is 'soft', she makes a great and radical Divine. Best out of the three options at least.

yup as soft leliana she is perfect, everyone gets over their racial and magic tensions and peace comes to the land She is awesome because with a few words she made people realize they were dumb and poof age old tensions are gone. 

[Willowhugger]

They were manipulated and caught in an act of entrapment. If this is why Fiona do that thread then let me save you some time, they were about to be annihilated, Fiona was time magic manipulated, couldn't back out, your inquisitor came in and took advantage of a bunch of people who were wronged because you got them by the balls. It was harsh in my opinion but what isn't unjust in Thedas? As Tyrion says:

https://www.youtube....h?v=IWIDp2Uyb-8

They weren't about to be annihilated because the Templars are now under the sway of the Elder One. The only Templars in the Hinterlands are busy fighting the Apostates.

Fiona panicked after the Divine's death and made an offer to have all of her mages defect to Tevinter and become its soldiers.

It's the equivalent of immigrating to the Soviet Union during the Cold War.

She'd given up fighting the war and decided it was better to betray Fereldan and their fellow beings to become Tevinter.

 

It was an outright EVIL as well as cowardly decision.

[Sports72Xtrm]

They weren't about to be annihilated because the Templars are now under the sway of the Elder One. The only Templars in the Hinterlands are busy fighting the Apostates.

Fiona panicked after the Divine's death and made an offer to have all of her mages defect to Tevinter and become its soldiers.

It's the equivalent of immigrating to the Soviet Union during the Cold War.

She'd given up fighting the war and decided it was better to betray Fereldan and their fellow beings to become Tevinter.

 

It was an outright EVIL as well as cowardly decision.

They didn't know that the templars were under the sway of the elder one. They didn't even know Alexius was a part of the Venatori and when Fiona found out she explicitly said "My people cannot be a part of this" but was strong-armed and intimidated to comply at that point. And the mages were bracing for a templar attack, Alexius at the time gave them an offer of security. You're ignoring the context of the situation so you can feel righteous about your choice.

 

a fiona did approach you for aid but your inquisitor didn't come to them fast enough. She tried to make the best of bad choices at the time, if you were in such a quandary you might have done the same thing.

[Boost32]

They weren't about to be annihilated because the Templars are now under the sway of the Elder One. The only Templars in the Hinterlands are busy fighting the Apostates.
Fiona panicked after the Divine's death and made an offer to have all of her mages defect to Tevinter and become its soldiers.

It's the equivalent of immigrating to the Soviet Union during the Cold War.

She'd given up fighting the war and decided it was better to betray Fereldan and their fellow beings to become Tevinter.
 
It was an outright EVIL as well as cowardly decision.

Thats why you side with the templars, they get to fight the breach like they wanted and Fiona get the alliance with Tevinther she wanted!
And you can achieve mage freedom in the templar side too.

[Radan]

Does the original post even make any sense? You start off by saying you play mages and like mages....and then you didn't expect to side with the mages......what?

 

 

Or maybe I just don't understand, its really late

[Boost32]

Does the original post even make any sense? You start off by saying you play mages and like mages....and then you didn't expect to side with the mages......what?


Or maybe I just don't understand, its really late

He always always wanted mage freedom, but after seeing what mages did in Redcliff, he conscripted them instead of allying

[herkles]

Does the original post even make any sense? You start off by saying you play mages and like mages....and then you didn't expect to side with the mages......what?

 

 

Or maybe I just don't understand, its really late

you are fighting for freedom for all mages and you are going to show that mages will not be like Tevinter when free

 

I mean you are fighting for the glory of the imperium as a trial period to becoming citizens of the Glorious tevinter imperium, and when you are citizens you can own people as property and show the world that mages are superior. 

[Sports72Xtrm]

you are fighting for freedom for all mages and you are going to show that mages will not be like Tevinter when free

 

I mean you are fighting for the glory of the imperium as a trial period to becoming citizens of the Glorious tevinter imperium, and when you are citizens you can own people as property and show the world that mages are superior. 

Well the whole all of society aligned to hunt and lynch mages at the time may have been a factor.

[SnakeCode]

The mages had the opportunity to show to the rest of Thedas that they could be trusted with their new freedom. They showed them all that in the end, they couldn't. They betrayed Alistair and Fereldan who gave them safe harbour and aligned with the enemy of the free world.

 

The argument against mage freedom is that they would become another Tevinter, well good job mages proving them all right.

 

 

As for me, I never thought i'd let a mage become Divine, yet that's exactly what I did. I felt like I needed Cassandra to stay with the Inquisition and Leliana is the worst divine of the three (for myself) and I actually respect Vivienne. Me a pro circle player, just helped a mage to become the power in the south.

[Willowhugger]

He always always wanted mage freedom, but after seeing what mages did in Redcliff, he conscripted them instead of allying

 

Pretty much, yeah.

 

I could never ally with the Templars even if the game somehow made me feel bad for them despite my chief desire going into the game was to annihilate them.

 

Even so the Inquisition conscripted the mages because they needed to be reminded that freedom means, "Being treated like everybody else" not "I am better than other people."

My Inquisitor had to eat some serious crow there after his arguments with Vivienne.

 

Good Lord, Leliana and Alistair are both Pro-Mage, two of the nicest people in Thedas and they have people talking about blood magic in the tavern and how human sacrifice is okay because "they use us in wars."

[LobselVith8]

Anyone else have anything they never expected to do but did?

 

I never expected Revas Lavellan to get along with Cullen, or to befriend him and help him.

 

They weren't about to be annihilated because the Templars are now under the sway of the Elder One. The only Templars in the Hinterlands are busy fighting the Apostates.

Fiona panicked after the Divine's death and made an offer to have all of her mages defect to Tevinter and become its soldiers.

It's the equivalent of immigrating to the Soviet Union during the Cold War.

She'd given up fighting the war and decided it was better to betray Fereldan and their fellow beings to become Tevinter.

 

It was an outright EVIL as well as cowardly decision.

 

It's not as though Fiona went out of her way to ally with Alexius; he used time magic to reach the mages before the Inquisitor, he had spies infiltrate the village of Redcliffe as refugees, and we still don't know why Fiona appeared in Orlais but couldn't remember when she's encountered in Ferelden, or why she "felt strange" when the Inquisitor mentions this. Solas even mentions that there's something off about the entire village.