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Who has Changed Their View of the Mage/Templar Conflict


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but damn is good imo.. tbh fiona wouldve got flamed by everybody here if she was "good" theres no way out. Player gonna hate and bash characters and fans. Lol

What, you think people here would hate her if they didn't go to Venatori?



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Oh yea, letting anders live was a lot more appealing when Sebastian tried threatening me. If it were ME me, I would have backhanded the ponytail out of his hair. Won't lie, pissing off the Seb had a lot to do with why I let Anders live.

Well my main hawke, Felicia Hawke killed anders for several reasons, and these are her reasons. Not mine but why she thought it made sense. 

 

1.) anders losing control and nearly killing ella. Ella happened to be Bethany's apprentince and someone who made beth happy.

 

"I've started mentoring apprentices. I enjoy time with the children, teaching them basic spells. One of them, Ella, has taken a shine to me. Adorable!"

For Felicia, protecting bethany but also making sure she was happy was her number 1 goal. if bethany didn't tell felicia to back off when she was going to the circle, hawke would have carved a path of blood through all of them to get to her sister, but this is about anders. Anders nearly slaughtered one of the few things that bethany loved and brought her joy by becoming vengence/justice. Hawke was pissed with anders, but gave him one last chance.

 

2.) the chantry blowing up: While hawke was andrastian, if a rather lax one who didn't give a damn. When Anders blew up the chantry it proved without a doubt to Hawke, that anders had lost it and was now Justice/Vegence. It also didn't help that she was trying to keep the peace from the mages and templars from spilling out into open war, which anders just did.

 

3.) Sebastians words: not the invading kirkwall thing. but the line about if Sebastian was in the chantry, would hawke be debating on what needs to be done? My hawke fell in love and romanced Seb, so to her this made things more clearer, she would have done many cruel things. 

 

so for those reasons, my hawke killed anders.



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What, you think people here would hate her if they didn't go to Venatori?

yeah if fiona allied with fereldan wholly peeps would say "well typical mary sue leeching off he sue of a son blah blah".
Fiona hating is a bsn olympian sport and calling characters sues is also a sport
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yeah if fiona allied with fereldan wholly peeps would say "well typical mary sue leeching off he sue of a son blah blah".
Fiona hating is a bsn olympian sport and calling characters sues is also a sport

Yea, I don't get that at all. I get the feeling a lot of people here assume I'm like these other people for sharing similar opinions. It's happened in the Dalish convos too and it's really annoying.



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Well my main hawke, Felicia Hawke killed anders for several reasons, and these are her reasons. Not mine but why she thought it made sense. 

 

1.) anders losing control and nearly killing ella. Ella happened to be Bethany's apprentince and someone who made beth happy.

 

"I've started mentoring apprentices. I enjoy time with the children, teaching them basic spells. One of them, Ella, has taken a shine to me. Adorable!"

For Felicia, protecting bethany but also making sure she was happy was her number 1 goal. if bethany didn't tell felicia to back off when she was going to the circle, hawke would have carved a path of blood through all of them to get to her sister, but this is about anders. Anders nearly slaughtered one of the few things that bethany loved and brought her joy by becoming vengence/justice. Hawke was pissed with anders, but gave him one last chance.

 

2.) the chantry blowing up: While hawke was andrastian, if a rather lax one who didn't give a damn. When Anders blew up the chantry it proved without a doubt to Hawke, that anders had lost it and was now Justice/Vegence. It also didn't help that she was trying to keep the peace from the mages and templars from spilling out into open war, which anders just did.

 

3.) Sebastians words: not the invading kirkwall thing. but the line about if Sebastian was in the chantry, would hawke be debating on what needs to be done? My hawke fell in love and romanced Seb, so to her this made things more clearer, she would have done many cruel things. 

 

so for those reasons, my hawke killed anders.

To be fair, Hawke's attempts to keep peace were rather pathetic. Reminds me of Jarl Balgruuf.



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To be fair, Hawke's attempts to keep peace were rather pathetic. Reminds me of Jarl Balgruuf.

 

At least Balgruuf gave a **** about Whiterun and it's people. Hawke on the other hand is a "Fereldan in Kirkwall". Outside of his family and friends he doesn't give a flying 747 **** about that city.


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chances are things will repeat and pro-temps will feel justified


Damn right.

You can't endanger people and get away with it.

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Yea, I don't get that at all. I get the feeling a lot of people here assume I'm like these other people for sharing similar opinions. It's happened in the Dalish convos too and it's really annoying.

well tgere are some bsners are just arseholes and activly antaganize x fandom so people often have to defend themselves because of it. Its not personal but the fandom is like the dalish we normally keep to ourselves but often harass x group for x reason. Thats my understanding of it

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Damn right.
You can't endanger people and get away with it.

did i every say it wasnt lol

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did i every say it wasnt lol


You need to lay off the grape soda and Phillies and make sense man!

Otherwise...I'll kill off Cassandra in my story.

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You need to lay off the grape soda and Phillies and make sense man!
Otherwise...I'll kill off Cassandra in my story.

lets be cool leave the cass alone lol XD

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Damn right.

You can't endanger people and get away with it.

**** the templars, endangering people is what they do 24/7. They're no better than cops and more appropriately, the wardens. Using their place in society as a necessary occupation to do what they want, damn the consequences so long as you're trying to do your job. Terrible mentality.


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**** the templars, endangering people is what they do 24/7. They're no better than cops and more appropriately, the wardens. Using their place in society as a necessary occupation to do what they want, damn the consequences so long as you're trying to do your job. Terrible mentality.

lets not compare wardens to temps... we alreasy have MT wars... no need for WT wars lol

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lets not compare wardens to temps... we alreasy have MT wars... no need for WT wars lol

Lol I don't give a ****, everyone in DAI fucked the pootch on this one. Every last group.


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Lol I don't give a ****, everyone in DAI fucked the pootch on this one. Every last group.

what about the commoners in the various nations? :P



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what about the commoners in the various nations? :P

I'm sure they had a hand in it too. **** 'em, lol. **** em all! Everyone got a **** from me until I was all out of fucks to give.

 

And don't even get me started on the nugs. Or that talking ram.

 

LOL.



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Lol I don't give a ****, everyone in DAI fucked the pootch on this one. Every last group.

except us we are the inquisition we cant **** up...(haven doesnt count we got plotsided lol)
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except us we are the inquisition we cant **** up...(haven doesnt count we got plotsided lol)

I blamed Leliana for that, lol. It didn't even seem like her fault, but I couldn't pass up a chance to blame her for something :lol: I was hard as **** on her every chance I got.



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I blamed Leliana for that, lol. It didn't even seem like her fault, but I couldn't pass up a chance to blame her for something :lol: I was hard as **** on her every chance I got.

i coddled her nothing makes me happier than imagining protemplars getting ape over "magically forcing everyone to getalong and holding hands"
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i coddled her nothing makes me happier than imagining protemplars getting ape over "magically forcing everyone to getalong and holding hands"

 

Not just pro-templars. Pro-people with logic. Leliana is cool and all, but Blood Magic isn't one of her powers.


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i coddled her nothing makes me happier than imagining protemplars getting ape over "magically forcing everyone to getalong and holding hands"

Sounds like me in Church with family.

 

Being pissed over it, that is, lol. I hate holding hands with people you don't like.



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Mages are the true masters of Thedas.



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Not just pro-templars. Pro-people with logic. Leliana is cool and all, but Blood Magic isn't one of her powers.

worth it and it canon(for me) permantly

Sounds like me in Church with family.
 
Being pissed over it, that is, lol. I hate holding hands with people you don't like.

ikr its way too personal imo

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Not just pro-templars. Pro-people with logic. Leliana is cool and all, but Blood Magic isn't one of her powers.

I honestly expected better from BioWare. Mages causing terror all over Thedas and everyone is suddenly friends. Radical racial change without any education to stimulate it. And everyone just goes along with it. Sickening. 


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I honestly expected better from BioWare. Mages causing terror all over Thedas and everyone is suddenly friends. Radical racial change without any education to stimulate it. And everyone just goes along with it. Sickening. 

 

Like I said, at least imply that the second Lels is out of the picture the facade falls apart. Then, maybe, I could buy it because of her charisma.