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Who has Changed Their View of the Mage/Templar Conflict


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Ah lol I was wondering :lol: Thought maybe you were referring to them keeping it secret or something, I dunno, lol.

i may speak constantly in jokes or sarcastic/lewd/snide remarks but i know a game changer when i see one. Sides it gives me goft of seeing both sides lol

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Something tells me that a Templar that can animate statues, shoot lightning, and super jump should be something more people acknowledge.


Most of the events in the gallows were overshadowed by the rebellion.

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That is rather cool. Ottoman history is not something I am familar with, though I am vagulaly familar with Salim's tale, mainly due to the victoria series of games by paradox. Ottoman and Byzantine history is something that I am hoping to learn more about, so perhaps any sites or books you can recommend would be nice. :)



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Eirene owns thread yet again.



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If you don't address that wall of text on Versailles and break it up piece by piece in your argument, we'll all judge you and make fun of you in PMs behind your back.

 

Get to work! Lololololol.

 

Yeah, I knew all that.

I could also give you a link to some essays which challenge those assumptions and how the changing role of Empire happened but, really, I don't give a crap.

 

So lol away.

I appreciate he took the time to write that, though.

It also doesn't refute the point that the important changes in society happen via negotiation.



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Yeah, I knew all that.

I could also give you a link to some essays which challenge those assumptions and how the changing role of Empire happened but, really, I don't give a crap.

 

So lol away.

I appreciate he took the time to write that, though.

It also doesn't refute the point that the important changes in society happen via negotiation.

 

Lol I was actually just teasing because you got slammed with a wall of text on something pages ago that wasn't even really on topic. I didn't bother to read any of it, so I wasn't loling because they owned you or something.

lolololol.



#857
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That's why I insisted that you had to address it piece by piece. Because I sure as hell wouldn't have, lol. Talk about pain in the ass.



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Eirene owns thread yet again.

 

She always does.



#859
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I guess what Inquisition changed of my views mostly was how it was obvious the Mage-Templar War was unnecessary.



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I guess what Inquisition changed of my views mostly was how it was obvious the Mage-Templar War was unnecessary.

no **** my friend both groups are lesser for it

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Apparently there's green lyrium in the Hissing Wastes so I don't know what the deal is with that. I do know that rank and file being tricked into drinking the red stuff isn't what makes me nervous. It's that after going back on their oath the entire upper echelons of the Order was infiltrated without anyone knowing or questioning. This is where the Templars ****ed up. You don't just shrug at the Lord Seeker pulling a Deebo LOLs YGKTFO on a Revered Mother.

What? I'm going to go with the assumption that this is a joke(please say yes).



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no **** my friend both groups are lesser for it

 

Yeah, previous games made me think the war was inevitable.

In fact, it seems very obvious in hindsight it took a lot of people campaigning for it and a lot of bad luck for it to happen and, in most cases, it really wasn't anywhere near likely.



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:/ Vivi summed it up pretty aptly.

 

To do what the mages did when they did it is to declare war on the entire free world.

 

Its pure ****ing insanity.

 

Unfortunately a lot of magi in power ended up not giving a ****.



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Bullets can solve the problem between mages and the people. Bullets are a great equalizer. The qunari have gunpowder. Someone in Thedas needs to pull their head out their arse and steal the forumula and then invent firearms. If mages get out of control, then the people have a means of defense, and don't have to rely on the Templars. Nor will they have to depend upon the nobility to defend them. An armed society is a polite society.



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Bullets can solve the problem between mages and the people. Bullets are a great equalizer. The qunari have gunpowder. Someone in Thedas needs to pull their head out their arse and steal the forumula and then invent firearms. If mages get out of control, then the people have a means of defense, and don't have to rely on the Templars. Nor will they have to depend upon the nobility to defend them. An armed society is a polite society.

 

Sera kind of summarized what was wrong with humanity. Humans think they're the ones in danger.

Whereas mages are the ones living imprisoned in towers with knives to their throat.


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:/ Vivi summed it up pretty aptly.

To do what the mages did when they did it is to declare war on the entire free world.
 
Its pure ****ing insanity.
 
Unfortunately a lot of magi in power ended up not giving a ****.

i gotta agree

Bullets can solve the problem between mages and the people. Bullets are a great equalizer. The qunari have gunpowder. Someone in Thedas needs to pull their head out their arse and steal the forumula and then invent firearms. If mages get out of control, then the people have a means of defense, and don't have to rely on the Templars. Nor will they have to depend upon the nobility to defend them. An armed society is a polite society.

that killed fable. XD (and bad plot, mechcanics, bugs, and horrid characters)

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Sera kind of summarized what was wrong with humanity. Humans think they're the ones in danger.

Whereas mages are the ones living imprisoned in towers with knives to their throat.

 

That doesn't sound anything like Sera tbh.

 

<.<

 

Every conversation she ever had about magic was...less then enlightened.



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i gotta agreethat killed fable. XD (and bad plot, mechcanics, bugs, and horrid characters)

I can just see it now. 

 

"Arqubusers load your incrediably inaccurate guns and try and shoot the mage who has pinpoint accuracy with her magic. please don't blow up" 

 

early guns sucked, artellary is was where most of the focus was in the early modern period instead of guns, though they did work on improving them, but they weren't that great except in mass units. 



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That doesn't sound anything like Sera tbh.

 

<.<

 

Every conversation she ever had about magic was...less then enlightened.

 

No, she was the one who said part one.

 

Basically, that mages were scary people who were terrifying and needed to be kept under lock and key.

 

I like Sera because she's not the Elf perspective.

 

She's the Commoner Thedan perspective.



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That doesn't sound anything like Sera tbh.

 

<.<

 

Every conversation she ever had about magic was...less then enlightened.

That's because Sera never said that. What she did say was that magic terrifies her and she wants to avoid it like the plague, even going so far as to avoid going into most areas of Haven. 



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Sera kind of summarized what was wrong with humanity. Humans think they're the ones in danger.

Whereas mages are the ones living imprisoned in towers with knives to their throat.

And as always, Sera is an idiot. This is a comment that sounds nice but has a poor implication.


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That's because Sera never said that. What she did say was that magic terrifies her and she wants to avoid it like the plague, even going so far as to avoid going into most areas of Haven. 

 

She really approves if you conscript the magi.

 

She even acknowledges that she thinks the Inquisitor did it because they buy into bringing the circles back.

 

At which point you can agree with her assessment and score a sweet early flirt line :P

 

I really wish her romance hadn't bugged out :/



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That's because Sera never said that. What she did say was that magic terrifies her and she wants to avoid it like the plague, even going so far as to avoid going into most areas of Haven. 

That did sound fishy to me. If she did say that though, I still stand by her being a moron, which isn't news really. But yea, she's been anti mage from the start.



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That did sound fishy to me. If she did say that though, I still stand by her being a moron, which isn't news really. But yea, she's been anti mage from the start.

 

She isn't stupid per say but she does believe a lot that the Inquizzy and Player can find questionable.

 

In fact to be honest i'd argue she's about the most down to earth companion in the game.



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I really wish her romance hadn't bugged out :/

Ew. Sera isn't my cup of tea, to put it mildly.