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Who has Changed Their View of the Mage/Templar Conflict


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That did sound fishy to me. If she did say that though, I still stand by her being a moron, which isn't news really. But yea, she's been anti mage from the start.

 

Yeah, I was stating that her beliefs are stupid.

 

Mages are the oppressed ones.

 

Yet the humans think they're the ones in danger.

 

*eye-roll*


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She isn't stupid per say but she does believe a lot that the Inquizzy and Player can find questionable.

 

In fact to be honest i'd argue she's about the most down to earth companion in the game.

Oh no, she's stupid. Insanely stupid. It's due to her brash personality. The chick can barely string together complete sentences, and I swear to god, she does absolutely nothing helpful, lol. I'm glad I was able to say as much to her after her personal mission. I am occasionally amused by her, but my opinion of her is low.

 

She occasionally surprises me though with moments of clarity. But for the most part, she's an imbecile.



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one thing I have to wonder is why is she an elf instead of human? she feels like she was written as a human over an elf.



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Oh no, she's stupid. Insanely stupid. It's due to her brash personality. The chick can barely string together complete sentences, and I swear to god, she does absolutely nothing helpful, lol. I'm glad I was able to say as much to her after her personal mission. I am occasionally amused by her, but my opinion of her is low.

 

She occasionally surprises me though with moments of clarity. But for the most part, she's an imbecile.

 

Did you get her summation of Orlesian Politics at the Ball?

 

Its crass but surprisingly accurate.

 

Its crap like that makes me wonder again just on how folks can call her stupid; sure her opinion is blunt and it comes from a place most wouldn't expect (a commoner perspective) but its coherent.



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Yeah, I was stating that her beliefs are stupid.

 

Mages are the oppressed ones.

 

Yet the humans think they're the ones in danger.

 

*eye-roll*

Well I'm sorry but that comment was stupid. The humans do what they do because they're in danger. That's like saying I'm not in danger from a nearby enemy nation when I have more men and better position around them while they have superior fire power.

 

Or really, you don't even need an analogy. It's faulty because it assumes one can't be in danger when endangering someone else. And the implication is to stop the oppression, but if they do, then everyone would be in danger, besides just mages.

 

See why I don't like this logic? It's something you'd see repeated by SJWs on Tumblr.



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Did you get her summation of Orlesian Politics at the Ball?

 

Its crass but surprisingly accurate.

 

Its crap like that makes me wonder again just on how folks can call her stupid; sure her opinion is blunt and it comes from a place most wouldn't expect (a commoner perspective) but its coherent.

Hell no I didn't take the thief/troublemaking noble hater.

 

I loved how at the wartable during her silly crash the noble mission, Cullen's option just says "No, this is ridiculous" lol. I take that option every time. Why she's even there I have no idea, she's like a child at the grown up table. If there were a kiddy table in Skyhold, Sera, Leliana, and Cole would be sitting there.


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Did you get her summation of Orlesian Politics at the Ball?
 
Its crass but surprisingly accurate.
 
Its crap like that makes me wonder again just on how folks can call her stupid; sure her opinion is blunt and it comes from a place most wouldn't expect (a commoner perspective) but its coherent.

well its probably her accent and "vulgar" phrasing. Theres a wierd stereotype of "you swear too much your stupid/un-educated"

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one thing I have to wonder is why is she an elf instead of human? she feels like she was written as a human over an elf.

 

I think they were showing the assimilated elves.

Which didn't work out very well because everyone was all about being Dalish this time round.



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 If there were a kiddy table in Skyhold, Sera, Leliana, and Cole would be sitting there.

 

I agree with this.



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Well I'm sorry but that comment was stupid. The humans do what they do because they're in danger. That's like saying I'm not in danger from a nearby enemy nation when I have more men and better position around them while they have superior fire power.

 

It just means when the mages come back and murder them for their imprisonment, that's on them.

They're the criminals, not the victims.

 

And they deserve to be punished for it.

 

*summons demons and sends them their way*

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I think they were showing the assimilated elves.

Which didn't work out very well because everyone was all about being Dalish this time round.

the thing is IIRC orlais doesn't really have much in the way of asimilated elves. 



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the thing is IIRC orlais doesn't really have much in the way of asimilated elves. 

 

That is...an inaccurate belief to say the least.



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That is...an inaccurate belief to say the least.

and why do you say that? 



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the thing is IIRC orlais doesn't really have much in the way of asimilated elves. 

 

But Sera's from Fereldan...



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It just means when the mages come back and murder them for their imprisonment, that's on them.

They're the criminals, not the victims.

 

And they deserve to be punished for it.

 

*summons demons and sends them their way*

:-)

Yea, no matter what happens, the only ones that will ever lose out is the mages. They never stood a chance from the start. They're the equivalent of pimples that keep coming back, and at best, the rest of the world just has to keep playing whack the mole. Numbers are not on their side, but they'll also never die out. What that means for them is they either get along or they're doomed to repeat a bloody history over and over and over.



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and why do you say that? 

 

Its the START of elven assimilation.

 

from a historical standpoint anyway.



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Yea, no matter what happens, the only ones that will ever lose out is the mages. They never stood a chance from the start. They're the equivalent of pimples that keep coming back, and at best, the rest of the world just has to keep playing whack the mole. Numbers are not on their side, but they'll also never die out. What that means for them is they either get along or they're doomed to repeat a bloody history over and over and over.

hard to do when x group subjugates y by the balls. And tightenes when y says " motherf--" its gonna happen lol

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hard to do when x group subjugates y by the balls. And tightenes when y says " motherf--" its gonna happen lol

Yea well, sucks for them, lol. Life's not fair sometimes. Hopefully things work out better in the future, but if not, no skin off my ass.



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Yea well, sucks for them, lol. Life's not fair sometimes. Hopefully things work out better in the future, but if not, no skin off my ass.

your opptimism is better than mine lol... but they'll wait til your sleep to take your asskin lol

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your opptimism is better than mine lol... but they'll wait til your sleep to take your asskin lol

I'll be sure not to wipe, lol. Then laugh from my grave when the templars hunt them down with their phylacteries.



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That comic never gets old

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It brings up a critical flaw from DA 2 as well.

 

Anders should have exploded when he died.



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one thing I have to wonder is why is she an elf instead of human? she feels like she was written as a human over an elf.

Maybe because they needed elf female as a companion, or players would moan. If they'd made Viv an elf, people would assume that all Grand Enchanters are elves (Fiona, Orsino and now Viv), and Cass is Cass.



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Even though that comic is an oversimplification and misrepresentation of things, its still funny as hell