Tevinter, no. The Venatori, yes.
If they're any good at magic their years of indentured servitude could probably double as apprenticeship. Like Dorian with Alexius minus the slavery. Could be a good way for a Southern Mage to make a name for themselves in Tevinter.
Note the part about being good which isn't the case for every mage.
Even if they didn't join the venatori, then that at best makes them traitors. Of which I still say "**** 'em".
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Even if they didn't join the venatori, then that at best makes them traitors. Of which I still say "**** 'em".
What, because they want to go somewhere where they'll be celebrated instead of reviled for what they can do? Yeah, evil traitors those guys... 
Tevinter isn't good or bad. It's a nation like any other with good and bad in it. Venatori give Tevinters a bad name. One automatically makes the assumption that Tevinter's lack of official intervention means they're complicit which isn't the case. There are a few Tevinter factions aiding the Inquisition on the War Map if you so choose and a Tevinter noble can become part of the Inquisitor's inner circle.
Venatori give Tevinters a bad name.
No the blood magic does that, and the blights, and their human sacrifices and the slaves, and then them just generally being pricks to everyone.
What, because they want to go somewhere where they'll be celebrated instead of reviled for what they can do? Yeah, evil traitors those guys...
Tevinter isn't good or bad. It's a nation like any other with good and bad in it. Venatori give Tevinters a bad name. One automatically makes the assumption that Tevinter's lack of official intervention means they're complicit which isn't the case. There are a few Tevinter factions aiding the Inquisition on the War Map if you so choose and a Tevinter noble can become part of the Inquisitor's inner circle.
Said Noble can decide to go back to try and change his nation from all of the stuff that give them a bad name.
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No the blood magic does that, and the blights, and their human sacrifices and the slaves, and then them just generally being pricks to everyone.
Yeah, fighting the Qunari dolo for 300 years does that. And most of is in the past which is what the Venatori are fighting to bring back or exaggerated propaganda.
problem? Anyone would do the sameNo the blood magic does that, and the blights, and their human sacrifices and the slaves, and then them just generally being pricks to everyone.
Yeah, fighting the Qunari dolo for 300 years does that. And most of is in the past which is what the Venatori are fighting to bring back or exaggerated propaganda.
there is what we hear from Fenris, admittedly not an unbiased source, but he's also not a known liar
there is what we hear from Fenris, admittedly not an unbiased source, but he's also not a known liar
._. You plainly see Magisters literally killing a child for his blood in the comics.
At a party no less, not a battle, not some experiment to harness some arcane trinket of old, a ****Ing party.
Thats the behind the closed door **** BOTH Dorian and Fenris talk about.
Honestly the sooner that sh*tHole sinks into the sea the better.
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there is what we hear from Fenris, admittedly not an unbiased source, but he's also not a known liar
Yeah. Fenris does have a selective memory though. The fact that Varania shits on him after he kills Danarius proves my point. The way I look at it is that Fenris and Dorain are opposites sides of the spectrum. Fenris is the guy that was beat by the sadistic Magister and Dorian is that guy who was raised to understand that slaves are people and not property.
What, because they want to go somewhere where they'll be celebrated instead of reviled for what they can do? Yeah, evil traitors those guys...
Well yea, going elsewhere and siding with the enemy is indeed what traitors are. Especially religiously.
Yeah. Fenris does have a selective memory though. The fact that Varania shits on him after he kills Danarius proves my point. The way I look at it is that Fenris and Dorain are opposites sides of the spectrum. Fenris is the guy that was beat by the sadistic Magister and Dorian is that guy who was raised to understand that slaves are people and not property.
not selective, partly absent. If you do give him back to Danarius he mentions that he wipes his memory
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Well yea, going elsewhere and siding with the enemy is indeed what traitors are. Especially religiously.
Tevinter isn't at war with the Inquisition. Didn't I just say like three times that you actually get help from Tevinter? The first thing at Skyhold that Josephine says is "The Imperium is not the enemy". First thing Cullen says after speech of awesome "we're dealing with an extremist faction". No habla Ingles?
Tevinter isn't good or bad. It's a nation like any other with good and bad in it. Venatori give Tevinters a bad name. One automatically makes the assumption that Tevinter's lack of official intervention means they're complicit which isn't the case. There are a few Tevinter factions aiding the Inquisition on the War Map if you so choose and a Tevinter noble can become part of the Inquisitor's inner circle.
This is a fantasy game dawg. Things are evil in fantasy games. Tevinter is a nation built on slavery and blood magic. It's a bad place.
problem? Anyone would do the same
All of Southern Thedas doesn't :/
Tevinter isn't at war with the Inquisition. Didn't I just say like three times that you actually get help from Tevinter?
While they are aiding Cory sure.
Playing both sides of the fence to hedge its bets.
It isn't anything more then a profiteer at best.
Tevinter isn't at war with the Inquisition. Didn't I just say like three times that you actually get help from Tevinter?
The inquisition no, but I'm not talking from that standpoint, but the chantry's and how everyone else would see it. Which is why I mentioned religion.
And they initially weren't helping you anyway until after they realized what their kooks were up to.
like the south is any better. Having the south rise again just to force their moral standards makes side with the vints.. least their honest.. shady maybe but honest._. You plainly see Magisters literally killing a child for his blood in the comics.
At a party no less, not a battle, not some experiment to harness some arcane trinket of old, a ****Ing party.
Thats the behind the closed door **** BOTH Dorian and Fenris talk about.
Honestly the sooner that sh*tHole sinks into the sea the better.
I always sympathized with the templars, but their portrayal in Origins wasn't that great, so I chose the mages.
In the Keep, I made Hawke an anti-mage.
In Inquisition, I went to the mages to see how bad that was, then asked about the templars at the war table, then decided to go with the mages because letting Redcliffe fall to Tevinter's Doctor Who Druffalo Chips didn't seem like a great idea to me. Don't know what entirely happens on the Templar side of the matter unfortunately.
While they are aiding Cory sure.
Playing both sides of the fence to hedge its bets.
It isn't anything more then a profiteer at best.
you can get an offer of help from Corypheus's descendents who refuse to help him, the Archon of Tevinter himself as well
and there is no reason, beyond paranoia, to believe they are playing both sides
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The inquisition no, but I'm not talking from that standpoint, but the chantry's and how everyone else would see it.
And they initially weren't helping you anyway until after they realized what their kooks were up to.
Granted. Better late than never. And they're probably too busy trading pop shots with the Qunari to keep all of their crazies in an asylum.
like the south is any better. Having the south rise again just to force their moral standards makes side with the vints.. least their honest.. shady maybe but honest
The south really can't wag their finger at anyone no, but I'm roleplaying a southerner, and he'd see it as a betrayal as an andrastian.
like the south is any better. Having the south rise again just to force their moral standards makes side with the vints.. least their honest.. shady maybe but honest
Right.
Of course; you have random mages just harvesting children for blood without any legal repercussion in the south.
Granted. Better late than never. And they're probably too busy trading pop shots with the Qunari to keep all of their crazies in an asylum.
Lol yea, I'll give them the credit of at least getting on board faster than our own chantry. Ironic.
i understand but the vints are andrastian granted a different sect but andrastians so theirs no betrayalThe south really can't wag their finger at anyone no, but I'm roleplaying a southerner, and he'd see it as a betrayal as an andrastian.
This is a fantasy game dawg. Things are evil in fantasy games. Tevinter is a nation built on slavery and blood magic. It's a bad place.
"Yes there is weakness, there is frailty, but there is courage also, and honor to be found in men, but you will not see that"
Tevinter isn't black and white as we've seen based on characters from there
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