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[Pikie 1 dog]

Hey everybody i tried watching the intro movie like a billion times, i can get through the first loading screen but i cant get through the second. What is this nonmovie load fix because i really want to play this game i bought it on friday and i have been getting so streesed out with this game. I have read every single log on this thread, but I just want to make sure that this nonmovie load fix actually works. Pleease reply.

[Pikie 1 dog]

BTW i don't want to download an unofficial patch, but i just might because I am dyyyyyying to play this game. my brother has it for xbox i instantly fell in love with the graphics of this game and went to go buy it............bad idea!!!!

[LuminousLupine]

BladeRyo wrote...

@LuminousLupine

Thanks for the long explanation on dual-core workings. But really, do we care? ...

You may not, but we (myself included) were getting abusive of Bio-Ware. I don't think it's good for them to get defensive, so someone needed to speak up on their behalve. (even if I don't have a high view of them right now.) Other then that? Two reasons:

First, I walked Mr.Gamble though how I'm either a raving idiot to be ignored or someone who might know a few things to be listened to when I say it can't simply be a problem because someone doesn't have a multi-core processer. (Well, without the admission Bio-Ware cut corners. When I allow the game to play un-modded, my load times with my single core are two or three times faster then the playthoughs I see on you-tube.)

Second, Somone that took to the time to understand my babbling is now better equipted to understand the problem.

Modifié par LuminousLupine, 01 février 2010 - 04:55 .

[Pikie 1 dog]

I agree with LuminousLupine we have been very abusive of Bioware and we should cut them some slack they did say that they were coming out with a patch and thats one thing we wanted, and for those people talking about valve seriously thats not what we are talking about, personally i can wait for the patch from bioware, this was i big let down for me, but i still am loyal to Bioware. I became loyal to them after i beat DA:O my favorite game of all time!!!!!!!

[Pikie 1 dog]

Just to tell you my brother always checks all (yes i mean all) the gaming news websites. He said he will look intently for news about a patch for ME2 from Bioware. When i get news from him i will surely post about it on this thread (unless everybody already knows) But i will keep trying to find fixes like everybody else on this thread. As for me... Im sick, so i am taking a nap see you later everybody don't stop posting!!! Cough cough.

[orakga]

@ Michael Gamble

I hope you guys realize that IF this issue is indeed a single-core issue, you guys have a class ACTION LAWSUIT on your hands?

The undeniable fact is that NONE OF THIS was made clear to your consumers ahead of time. NOONE here who pre-ordered was aware that they would not be able to proceed past the first loading screen, and I suspect the vast majority of single-core users (and while a minority, still a great number of users considering how many people will eventually purchase this title) are also in the dark.

The following is what you should have done if this was indeed a known single-core issue:

1) Ensure that retailers (including digital distributors and online distributors) are aware of this issue and communicate this message to a prospective buyer PRIOR to the purchase. As you're probably realizing, NONE OF US are able to return this product, and that's a serious problem.

2) Check for the users' system specs during the installation, and BEFORE asking the user to input the key code, or at the least flash a warning message from the startup menu stating that "THIS GAME WILL NOT RUN ON YOUR COMPUTER! UPGRADE IT TO A DUAL CORE PROCESSOR"

What we have here is a product that had an ENFORCED minimum requirement that prevents people from using their product. And this requirement was NOT communicated properly to the consumers AHEAD OF TIME.

I don't care if this was stated on the back of the box.
I don't care if this is displayed under some obscure legal disclaimer link on your website.
The fact remains that PEOPLE DID NOT KNOW THIS going into their purchase, and are now unable to return this product even if they so choose to do so.

Here's an example:
http://www.amazon.co...65048053&sr=8-3

That's the link to the Amazon product page. Please note how there is absolutely no mention of dual-core processors being a requirement. How are people supposed to know not to buy this game?

For your sake, I hope you take this situation more seriously, because it honestly sounds like you guys at BioWare over there are laughing at the single-core users for getting duped. How many copies of the PC version do you expect to sell? 200,000? 500,000? (I know ME1 360 sold 1.2mil-ish, but don't have PC figures with me at the moment) If you assume 5% of those people are single-core users, you're still looking at a 10,000~25,000 userbase that got screwed by your mishandling of this.

And if you think you can just point at the back of the box and pretend like this is not your problem, you're in for a nasty headache.

I give up.

Modifié par orakga, 01 février 2010 - 06:25 .

[lolmanftw]

orakga wrote...

@ Michael Gamble

I hope you guys realize that IF this issue is indeed a single-core issue, you guys have a class ACTION LAWSUIT on your hands?

The undeniable fact is that NONE OF THIS was made clear to your consumers ahead of time. NOONE here who pre-ordered was aware that they would not be able to proceed past the first loading screen, and I suspect the vast majority of single-core users (and while a minority, still a great number of users considering how many people will eventually purchase this title) are also in the dark.

The following is what you should have done if this was indeed a known single-core issue:

1) Ensure that retailers (including digital distributors and online distributors) are aware of this issue and communicate this message to a prospective buyer PRIOR to the purchase. As you're probably realizing, NONE OF US are able to return this product, and that's a serious problem.

2) Check for the users' system specs during the installation, and BEFORE asking the user to input the key code, or at the least flash a warning message from the startup menu stating that "THIS GAME WILL NOT RUN ON YOUR COMPUTER! UPGRADE IT TO A DUAL CORE PROCESSOR"

What we have here is a product that had an ENFORCED minimum requirement that prevents people from using their product. And this requirement was NOT communicated properly to the consumers AHEAD OF TIME.

I don't care if this was stated on the back of the box.
I don't care if this is displayed under some obscure legal disclaimer link on your website.
The fact remains that PEOPLE DID NOT KNOW THIS going into their purchase, and are now unable to return this product even if they so choose to do so.

Here's an example:
http://www.amazon.co...65048053&sr=8-3

That's the link to the Amazon product page. Please note how there is absolutely no mention of dual-core processors being a requirement. How are people supposed to know not to buy this game?

For your sake, I hope you take this situation more seriously, because it honestly sounds like you guys at BioWare over there are laughing at the single-core users for getting duped. How many copies of the PC version do you expect to sell? 200,000? 500,000? (I know ME1 360 sold 1.2mil-ish, but don't have PC figures with me at the moment) If you assume 5% of those people are single-core users, you're still looking at a 10,000~25,000 userbase that got screwed by your mishandling of this.

And if you think you can just point at the back of the box and pretend like this is not your problem, you're in for a nasty headache.

I give up.

Go away. Srsly. Do us all a favor and stop posting. Bioware will give us a patch. Whether you want to wait or not, its your problem but dont post stupid stuff like that cause it aint the truth. Now hush away troll.

and @pike 1 dog. read the damn thread and use the edit button.

Modifié par lolmanftw, 01 février 2010 - 06:29 .

[Medhia Nox]

Orakga -



I'm mad enough to wait a good long time before I buy another Bioware game at full price - but you're seriously going way overboard.



It says on the back of the box - "Requires Dual Core".



Now, if you want to state: "The requirement was an act of sheer laziness on the part of Mass Effect 2's pitiful architecture and there was no need for this problem." Then, I'm with you -



If you wanted to state: "It took them nearly 150 plus people before they even started responding to us - and now we're at 250 plus people - and they're still spending their time reminding us it's "our fault" - then, I'm with you..



But this stuff your throwing around. I don't support it.

[bjdbwea]

I agree, that's not constructive. If someone doesn't read the requirements, it's their fault. I did, and still bought the game hoping it would run on single core, like any other game I've been interested so far, including Fallout 3 and DA. I was expecting problems, though I never thought the 3D scenes would run so perfectly, while some idiotic bug with bik movies would ruin the experience. That's simply not acceptable, and I expected better from BioWare than "solving" the problem by writing "multi core" on the package. However, legally they can't be held to account, and you shouldn't throw around such accusations.

[Ner0_ua]

Hi, I dont understand a patch it will be or no? I managed with the first loading by means of NointroFix, but can not pass farther, because from the turned off video a game does not work after the visit of ship of reapers.


You will excuse if this question was already set. I badly talk on English, on it answer please simply Yes, it will be or No, it will not be

Modifié par Ner0_ua, 01 février 2010 - 07:26 .

[MockAffiliatus]

@ner0_ua: hey man, they haven't decided yet whether they will fix it or not. hopefully they will, but i wouldnt bet on it.

im just happy to know that at least the -nomoviestartup add works, even if the citadel/endgame is not accessible (and believe me, i've tried to get around that mess-up with every suggestion i can find here). leastways i can play the game really smoothly, and by god, even missing the citadel and the bink movies, it is one of the best gaming experiences i have ever had. there really is nothing more satisfying than watching a mantis shot crack through an eclipse commando's head...

[AkiraRyuuji]

Does anyone know if a date for the patch has been released yet? =/ or an estimate of how long we will have to wait =P i couldnt evan get past the loading screen till i downloaded some guys patch and it worked but it was really jumpy then it was fine on the first planet but as soon as i used a mass relay to go to purgatory it was all jumpy again so i saved and..... my save was not there when i went back on, Oh well !! COME ON BIOWARE

[Battx]

AkiraRyuuji wrote...

Does anyone know if a date for the patch has been released yet? =/ or an estimate of how long we will have to wait =P i couldnt evan get past the loading screen till i downloaded some guys patch and it worked but it was really jumpy then it was fine on the first planet but as soon as i used a mass relay to go to purgatory it was all jumpy again so i saved and..... my save was not there when i went back on, Oh well !! COME ON BIOWARE

Bioware said that the first patch would come out in a couple weeks... but that if they could fix the problem we're all having, that would come out in the second patch if at all

[DashRunner92]

@orakga 

Dude you are an epic fail You can't be serious. 

[Selek44]

My partner and I bought the Collectors Edition on Friday, which wasn't cheap.

We bought it because we loved ME 1 and so far have been really dissappointed with not getting past the loading screen.

The funny thing is, we just finished playing Divinity2 and it had the exact same problem which they solved with a patch.

Hopefully Bioware will give us a patch asap so we can see the beauty of this long awaited game.

[Pikie 1 dog]

Just to tell you lolmanftw why do you think i didnt post anymore...hmmmmmmm? I figured it out so shut up, your giving me a bigger headache then ME2!!!!!!!

Modifié par Pikie 1 dog, 01 février 2010 - 08:38 .

[Bolobolo73]

I learned something and that is my days of buying PC games are numbered if I do not build a new PC soon or I start shopping at G.O.G LOL. The requirements are getting too much for my PC.

[Spiro12]

Comprehensive solution to getting through the game for Single Core

Ok, I feel a little dirty for writing this.  As if I somehow came up with this myself and it isn't explained thoroughly in 50+ pages of threads.  That anyone who actually cared to figure it out couldn't just skim through and find the solutions, but I know they won't.  I also didn't see it all broken down, and people also don't seem to be bright enough to look for each separate problem, so here they all are.

Loading Lockup
Citidel Access
IFF

The first thing I have is three different ways to load the game.  I have two shortcuts.  One is a normal shortcut, the other is the -nomoviestartup shortcut.  Then I have an extra folder in BioGame folder of the main install, for movies.  I have all the movies untouched in one folder and the movies with the greened out load movies in another.  This solves everything, with some extra effort that shouldn't otherwise be necessary.

Now, I may be putting this together, but I'm not bothering to explain, AGAIN, what these are.  They are thoroughly explained in this thread, over and over.  Do a LITTLE work for yourself.

Loading Lockup

Now.  If you want to watch movies, then you're going to have to use the greened out load movies, but be prepared to watch excruciatingly long cut sceens due to the lagging.  This is your only way to get to see what happens to the normandy in the beginning of the game.  Your first opportunity to save the game doesn't happen until after 2 or three movies and 3 cut scenes, so it can take a long time.

If you don't really need to see what happens then start the game with your -nomovie shortcut instead and simply save it when you "wake up."

From here you have a choice.  It's the same choice, with the same losses.  If you really don't care about landing and taking off, then play through with the -nomovie.  It's no big deal, not a lot happens that's important, it just looks cooler.  If you don't have a problem with saving, exiting then reloading then play through with the green loads.  It will just take longer, and if you stumble on a cutscene it will take even longer.  The key is every time you get control, save the game, exit and restart and you will be lag free again until you play another movie.  Not all movies cause lag.

The mass effect gates are not effected by the green load.  Every time you go through a mass effect gate you will get lag.  -nomovie clears this problem.

Citidel Access

In order to access the citidel you have to have movies enabled.  BUT, those movies don't cause lag.  So if you want to get on the citidel, and you SHOULD want to do that.  Simply save it once you get through the mass relay, then restart with green loads enabled.

IFF

The IFF is the only part of the game that you can't complete without full video.  And every video causes lag.  The work around does not become necessary until after the IFF is being installed on the ship, and again does not become necessary until you actually access the galaxy map.  Accessing the galaxy map triggers the situation.  So make sure to save before then.  Also, make sure that you have talked to everyone and done everything you mean to do by that point.

In order to complete IFF, rename your green load folder to something other then movie, and rename your full movie folder to Movie.  Load the game.  DO NOT PRESS ANY KEY.  Wait for the trailer to play once.  Press any key.  Suffer through lag as you reload.  Access the galaxy map.  You will see some cinimatics and cut sceens.  You will have to navigate through the ship in a noncombat playthrough, then suffer some more cut scenes before you ever get the chance to save.  It will take a long time, but once you're through it, you're through it.

Once you're through all that save it, rename the movie folders back, and play the rest of the game the way you prefer.

*End Game*
I thought I'd just throw this in for fun.  If you want to watch the complete endgame with video, and you probably do, the game auto saves at two points in the initial sequence, where combat starts.  You can relaod the game just after combat starts and you will start right at the combat, playing normally.  You can't save the game yourself, but it will let you fight without lag and still watch the cinimatics.

All of this, other then the last thing there, is available in this thread if you bothered to look.  Still, there you go.  That's how to play the whole game through with a single core.

Modifié par Spiro12, 01 février 2010 - 09:32 .

[Estou]

Im having roughly the same problem as most people here, although I have a dual-core processor. My system specs are high enough to run just about anything on high if not max graphics (Radeon HD4770 vid card), so it struck me as odd when I got an fps of about 4 as soon as the "press any button to continue" screen came up. It's even completely frozen a few times.



Is this related to the same problem that is going to be addressed in the upcoming patch?

[Sylenced]

@Spiro12

You saying we didn't read 50+ pages?

Well congratulations,you reposted solutions posted on pages 16/17/36/37/5x

Sorry but,you haven't read anything,obviously:o

[Quidom]

Sorry Spiro...no help. I already read all that, did all that, and still can't even CREATE a character. So I've done the work and it didn't help.

[blorbie]

I appreciated the summary, Spiro, thanks. It is a pain going back through hundreds of posts to find the right ones.

[-Dakeyras-]

@Sylenced



Personnaly, I think it is always nice to create those kind of summery.^^

We did not all notes where were located the differents tips in the topics. of course we could have searched for ti. But if someone is willing to create those kind of sumary, why say no?^^"

("I am not lasy, I am pragmatic")

[MrOptimism457]

Just chiming in again. While this may be a single core issue, the exact same error is being encountered on dual core systems (like mine) . Just want to keep that out there.

[Hexivor]

Spiro12 wrote...
IFF

The IFF is the only part of the game that you can't complete without full video.  And every video causes lag.  The work around does not become necessary until after the IFF is being installed on the ship, and again does not become necessary until you actually access the galaxy map.  Accessing the galaxy map triggers the situation.  So make sure to save before then.  Also, make sure that you have talked to everyone and done everything you mean to do by that point.

In order to complete IFF, rename your green load folder to something other then movie, and rename your full movie folder to Movie.  Load the game.  DO NOT PRESS ANY KEY.  Wait for the trailer to play once.  Press any key.  Suffer through lag as you reload.  Access the galaxy map.  You will see some cinimatics and cut sceens.  You will have to navigate through the ship in a noncombat playthrough, then suffer some more cut scenes before you ever get the chance to save.  It will take a long time, but once you're through it, you're through it.

Once you're through all that save it, rename the movie folders back, and play the rest of the game the way you prefer.

Im curious as to how you even get past the initial load if you arent using green screen loads (which results in a freeze at the stupid mass effect relay loading screen).