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[daveliam]

And all of this is why I'd rather just see past PCs dealt with in throw-away side notes.  Come up with a reason why s/he can't be there and just be done with it. 

[AshesEleven]

Between my Hawke suddenly getting all serious and hating the Grey Wardens, and my Hero of Ferelden randomly ignoring her duty in search of a cure she was firmly against, I have to say I'm not exactly thrilled with the way my past protagonists have been handled in DAI.
Not that I blame Bioware - I suppose this is why they were somewhat reluctant to include Hawke and the Warden at all. It's just a shame that this is 'canon' now.

This is what I keep saying. There's no way that Bioware would do everyone's characters justice. My Hawke was portrayed perfectly, but why would my Warden be searching for a cure? That doesn't sound like her.

[dsl08002]

What I have seen there are many different versions of why the warden is going after this cure, if its for a LI it is personal but if its not it makes no sense.

For the best situation Bioware should drop the bomb that this mission is a second truth and that the true motivation is that the warden is trying to stop the last two old gods once and for all.

[Willowhugger]

I might be in the minority but I'm also not a fan of the cure. I'd rather the devs kept it where Wardens had to go on their Calling. Tragic characters shouldn't get an easy out just because the character happens to be a fan favorite. 

 

The Wardens getting the ****** taken out of their culture of sacrifice is kind of a thing, though.

 

It's a theme in both DA2 and DA:I that the Wardens are kind of awful people.

 

Alistair and Warden are the exceptions rather than the rule.

 

Vigil Keep is their Berkeley College when everyone else is the Citadel.

Discovering they could have avoided the Calling centuries ago if they'd just looked harder is right up Bioware's ally of sneering at their characters' self-importance.

[Willowhugger]

This is what I keep saying. There's no way that Bioware would do everyone's characters justice. My Hawke was portrayed perfectly, but why would my Warden be searching for a cure? That doesn't sound like her.

 

Why wouldn't you be?

 

The Wardens who don't look for a cure are kind of moronic.

 

There's nothing noble about unnecessary sacrifice.

 

Which is a theme in DA:I.

 

Hell, it's not like you have anything else to do other than grunt work. The Blight's over and you're the greatest warrior or mage on Earth.

[FlyingSquirrel]

Did anyone else get the wrong name on the letter from the Warden"\? By and large, the Keep seems to have worked, in that whenever outcomes of DA:O and DA2 decisions are referenced, they appear to be accurate. But my Warden's name is "Selena" and yet she signed the letter "Surana." (And yes, I did go through the steps to import my Warden's portrait and name.)

[daveliam]

Did anyone else get the wrong name on the letter from the Warden"\? By and large, the Keep seems to have worked, in that whenever outcomes of DA:O and DA2 decisions are referenced, they appear to be accurate. But my Warden's name is "Selena" and yet she signed the letter "Surana." (And yes, I did go through the steps to import my Warden's portrait and name.)

 

Was your Warden an elf mage?  If so, then her name is Selena Surana.  Surana is the last name of that Warden.  Like the Inquisitor, the Warden is usually referred to by his/her last name (like Inquisitor Adaar; Warden Aeducan; etc.).

[Xx Serissia xX]

I'm hoping for a DLC at the very least addressing this.

[crimzontearz]

Sadly my import glitched so I will NEVER experience this


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[Black Jimmy]

I found something baffeling...

 

See 

 

Spoiler

In my Save leliana x femwarden yada yada sided with mage and hawkexBela . And I sided with Mage , so in that spell Alexius drag ya a year ahead right ^ and none wondered...why the warden wouldnt show up ^ i mean for my quizzie and dorian they said this never happen . But clearly it happen somewhere in an alternate manner or world . And my warden never showed up there.....I though real or not , my warden would show up . especially since coryphius killed celene and thats like ringing a bell to the world that he is the top dog now...

 

Spoiler

Who's to say they didn't? They probably have some alternate story in that timeline, but we just don't hear about it.

Because we're not there long and it's probably not important enough to bring up at the moment.

[Nerdage]

Given that you only contact the Warden after it becomes clear that the Venatori can influence them, I imagine the letter sent to them has a "by the way, I'd steer clear if I were you" warning in it; last thing the Inquisition needs is to be the group who kill the hero of the fifth blight (or to all be killed by the hero of the fifth blight, because, you know) because (s)he became a Venatori puppet.

 

And finding a cure for the calling could be selfish or not, depending on how you look at it, it's hard to think of the kind of character who wouldn't want to do that for one reason or another. All in all I'd say Warden-related head-canons got off much more easily than Hawke ones. For now, at least.

[The Spanish Inquisitor]

Guys who are saying their Wardens will never look for the cure, Why? but think of it as an adventure, the warden is not just going to find the cure, 
I suspect it is like an investigation or mystery of the calling. I am sure the Warden is in the deep roads, uncovering secrets. The cure is a game changer for the setting.

Either the Warden wants to save himself or rest of the wardens from the calling. Also Warden might have uncovered other things while doing this.
Corypheus freaked the Orlesian wardens with a calling, so cure for the calling means this does not happen in the future. or The Warden might have received the Order from the First Warden or he uncovered it while going in the Deep Roads for other reason. Frankly hundreds of good reason why The Warden is looking for the cure or atleast the mystery of the calling or the deeproads. which is good for all of us. because more story or plot for us. 
and it makes sense that he is not dropping everything to come to the Inquisitor why should He/She everybody have their parts to play, Inquisitor gets to stop Corypheus and Warden have his/her own thing to do. 
I can't imagine The Warden coming to help and letting the Inquisitor running the show. This makes more sense the Warden knows Corypheus would fall because whatever he is, he is not a old god but only their follower and remember Corypheus was not the same as blight, Warden's job is all thing blight.

[Nyctyris]

Guys who are saying their Wardens will never look for the cure, Why? but think of it as an adventure, the warden is not just going to find the cure, 
I suspect it is like an investigation or mystery of the calling. I am sure the Warden is in the deep roads, uncovering secrets. The cure is a game changer for the setting.

Either the Warden wants to save himself or rest of the wardens from the calling. Also Warden might have uncovered other things while doing this.
Corypheus freaked the Orlesian wardens with a calling, so cure for the calling means this does not happen in the future. or The Warden might have received the Order from the First Warden or he uncovered it while going in the Deep Roads for other reason. Frankly hundreds of good reason why The Warden is looking for the cure or atleast the mystery of the calling or the deeproads. which is good for all of us. because more story or plot for us. 
and it makes sense that he is not dropping everything to come to the Inquisitor why should He/She everybody have their parts to play, Inquisitor gets to stop Corypheus and Warden have his/her own thing to do. 
I can't imagine The Warden coming to help and letting the Inquisitor running the show. This makes more sense the Warden knows Corypheus would fall because whatever he is, he is not a old god but only their follower and remember Corypheus was not the same as blight, Warden's job is all thing blight.

 

Because in my first playthrough import, my Warden became a queen/king. Surely the ENTIRE point of being a monarch is that you have people to do this crap for you. I'm not captain bloody picard. 

 

I understand it more if you had an import where your Warden stays warden, as mine has in second playthrough import. 

[FlyingSquirrel]

Was your Warden an elf mage?  If so, then her name is Selena Surana.  Surana is the last name of that Warden.  Like the Inquisitor, the Warden is usually referred to by his/her last name (like Inquisitor Adaar; Warden Aeducan; etc.).

 

No, she was a human mage. Her last name should be Amell, if I recall correctly. I suppose it's possible that I accidentally made her an elf in the Keep without noticing, but I'm almost certain that it detected her name and appearance from one of my DA:O saves. Though I also had to correct Hawke's appearance when she first appeared, and in fact her hairstyle from DA2 was seemingly no longer available, even though her portrait was also imported into the Keep.

 

The imported plot points all seem to be working, however.

[Arakat]

It actually matched my headcanon almost perfectly - this is what I've been picturing my Warden doing since I finished Awakening. She really just wants the cure for herself (to paraphrase a line of hers during Riordan's revelation: "I'm not dying for this!"), though, so that line about saving all Wardens is probably her prettying things up.

[dsl08002]

I also want o say this that 3 months ago I said that we probably wont get a closure in this game, we would only find out what the warden is doing. I was right.

The story is still open but the thin is this, right now we still got 2 old gods in the deep roads waiting to be awakened so a blight is guarantied, might as well finish the dragon age with the same kind of story with the characters and story that started the whole thing about dragon age.

I would create more warden threads but here on BSN you cant mention the warden without being attacked immideatly

[Little Princess Peach]

First of all let me give you a small introduction.

Warden Cousland is alive and well became later warden commander of ferelden, Alistair is king and Leliana is LI.

havnt yet played with a different LI

When Leliana tells the inquisitor about what the Hero of ferelden is doing, searching for a cure of the calling there are some problems that presents itself. First of all I like the whole search for the cure in order to be with you LI but......

There are is one illogical behaviour here. it sounds like the mission is personal, searching for a cure. and if that is the case when you get the message from the inquisition you would simply drop everything and make haste back to skyhold to help regardless of what obstacles are in your way. Duty must always come first.

Secondly in DA2 ending Leliana tells Cassandra that that it is no coincidence that the warden and hawke are missing. Either its an mistake from Bioware or Leliana lied straight to cassandras face of where the HoF truly was and what he was doing. As you saw she knew exactly how to get a message to HoF.

So to sum this up quickly it sounds that the warden is being selfish, and that bioware never really thought it through when they decided not to include the warden in DAI.

Personally I hope that these is just a ruse and that the HoF is searching for a way to stop the remaining old gods once and for all. No more blights.

Cassandra tells you she thought it was connected the dissaperances between hawke and the warden then she says she was mistaken so problem solved

[Han Shot First]

The Wardens getting the ****** taken out of their culture of sacrifice is kind of a thing, though.

 

It's a theme in both DA2 and DA:I that the Wardens are kind of awful people.

 

Alistair and Warden are the exceptions rather than the rule.

 

Vigil Keep is their Berkeley College when everyone else is the Citadel.

Discovering they could have avoided the Calling centuries ago if they'd just looked harder is right up Bioware's ally of sneering at their characters' self-importance.

 

I'm just not a fan of the direction they are headed in. I thought the Wardens were a lot more interesting a faction with that element of tragedy hanging over them. Its also why I was opposed to the devs curing Thane back when some ME fans were clamoring for that.

 

Now it seems they'll all be cured eventually.

 

I guess I'll keep my fingers crossed that the Wardens quest will ultimately fail, or come tied with consequences that might not necessarily make the cure an easy decision.

[Mr.House]

Even if HoF came to Skyhold, he would have to fight demons and red templars, he can't go anywhere near Cory and Venatori, might as well go search for a way to stop the the calling so nothing like Adament can ever happen again.

[Rake451]

I found something baffeling...

 

See 

 

Spoiler

In my Save leliana x femwarden yada yada sided with mage and hawkexBela . And I sided with Mage , so in that spell Alexius drag ya a year ahead right ^ and none wondered...why the warden wouldnt show up ^ i mean for my quizzie and dorian they said this never happen . But clearly it happen somewhere in an alternate manner or world . And my warden never showed up there.....I though real or not , my warden would show up . especially since coryphius killed celene and thats like ringing a bell to the world that he is the top dog now...

 

Spoiler

Well, we don't hear anything, but, if they did show up, they'd be dead.  The Hero of Fereldan, no matter who they are in your game, is a badass.  That's a universal truth.  Chances are, if they did fight Cory's forces, they'd tear through the enemy's forces and faced the big man, himself.  Then, if they managed to kill Corypheus, they would be immediately be possessed and destroyed as the Elder One started wearing them like a Edgar-suit.  

 

The Warden, as awesome as they are, can't really help against what the Elder One is. 

[Willowhugger]

I'm just not a fan of the direction they are headed in. I thought the Wardens were a lot more interesting a faction with that element of tragedy hanging over them. Its also why I was opposed to the devs curing Thane back when some ME fans were clamoring for that.

 

Now it seems they'll all be cured eventually.

 

I guess I'll keep my fingers crossed that the Wardens quest will ultimately fail, or come tied with consequences that might not necessarily make the cure an easy decision.

I think the Wardens will succeed but only when the last Archdemon is dead.

 

:-)