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How much sense is it , If Mage Hawke sides with the Templars?


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Cody2Hottie

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As a Rogue I sided with the Mages to protect Bethany , I'm thinking of becoming a mage in the next but side with the Templar's for Carver.



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HappyApathy553

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I find DA2 to be rigged against the Templars personally, Hawke has to be an ass or a zealot by the end to make siding with the Templars seem rationale, if you try to take a moderate stance I find it difficult to find a good reason to side with the Templars.



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renfrees

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Blood magic!



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General TSAR

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To show the Templars that there are mages who will fight with them against their blood magic indulgent "people."



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Isaidlunch

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Makes a lot of sense if your Hawke is only looking out for himself and possibly his family/friends. My mage Hawke did it to protect himself against Meredith and it worked really well, the tension made The Last Straw feel completely different than before.



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A mage Hawke who's decided the templars are right and that mages are too dangerous to be free could reasonably side with the templars.

 

What doesn't make sense is that nonsense where a mage Hawke becomes Viscount.  No, just no.

 

Mage Hawke should either be sent to the nearest Circle, be made tranquil, or be branded too dangerous too live by the surviving templars.



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You could agree that Kirkwall is riddled with blood mages and after what happened to Leandra Hawke has every reason to hate blood magic. And even if you did your best to help mages over the years, the group of "nice" templars and mages still kidnap someone close to you to force you to work with them.


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I imagine that my second Hawke (diplomatic rogue) did it because he didn't want to slaughter innocent templars, whom he felt were only doing their duty, and out of concern for Fenris' safety and opinions on the matter (Leandra's death didn't help). Bethany had died in the Deep Roads this playthrough, so he had no reason to personally care about the Circle. 



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I find DA2 to be rigged against the Templars personally, Hawke has to be an ass or a zealot by the end to make siding with the Templars seem rationale, if you try to take a moderate stance I find it difficult to find a good reason to side with the Templars.

 

This is exactly right, unfortunately. I feel they missed an opportunity of making it more morally ambiguous with this in DA2. As it is, the extreme abuses perpetrated by (some of) the templars cannot be excused.

 

When you make your decision you certainly don't know that Meredith will go frothing mad and you'll have to put her down by the end, so you are making your decision based on everything you've seen until that point. Even if you are more of a moderate, like myself, you don't get the option of saying, "We need the Circle, but Meredith has got to go." It's either purge the mages or help them fight.


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I wish that as Hawke you could actually help Anders lead this so called revolution he talks about all the time, underground resistance etc. Would make for a much more interesting game roleplaying wise. You are kind of forced against the templars because of extremism. Few people i know that i have played the game were ok with Anders actions and is mentioned above me you don't know that Meredith will go coco, so yeah. 



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Merle McClure II

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Well to be fair, as I remember both sides are shown as having extremists within their ranks. -- Still, a mage Hawke siding with the Templars does feel a bit jarring considering that Hawke has basically spent her entire life thumbing her nose at the Circle system, although I suppose Anders could very well be a deciding factor as well.



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OOC totally... i hated this "game" because it was one sided



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dragonflight288

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OOC totally... i hated this "game" because it was one sided

 

I wouldn't call it one sided exactly. Both sides look like crap. 

 

Just watched my younger sister beat the game for the first time last week. She kept asking me what she should or shouldn't do to get the best outcome, and I pretty much told her that there was no best outcome. And she rightly pointed out that both sides stank to high....Fade. She kept complaining about the blood mages she had to fight, but she also said she hated dealing with the templars because she felt they were too corrupt to do their job properly. 

 

She ended up siding with the mages after executing Anders (her second choice for love interest after Fenris, and she told me she only chose Fenris because she finished his quest and unlocked it before Anders) because she said that the Circle didn't destroy the Chantry and the Grand Cleric, and so they shouldn't have to all be killed because of it. The one responsible faced justice.