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#201
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Metacritic user scores aren't looking so hot. Sales aren't flawed, they just aren't looking so hot according to charts. ME3 got GOTY awards too, so I am not surprised that DA:I got some too.

 

 

Metacritic user scores are laughed at by the majority of the internet, sales are looking good, Inquisition is on track to win far more GOTY awards than Origins, they're on track to win a ton of Reader's Choice awards which are awarded by the fans, the reception it received was positive and not mixed. 

 

Any other falsehoods or inconsequential statements you want to trot out?



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It doesn't seem to be flopping, it just isn't doesn't seem to be selling as good as DA:O and the reception is very mixed.

 

Their dumbing down and butchering of the franchise was in vain as it seems.

If you mean the Metacritic PC user score then you are obviously trolling. Everyone knows that it's user score is very flawed that you can gave a score of 0 and 10 since release.



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Which is much more than can be said for Origins. We all find it amusing that you have your blinkers on, but we'd appreciate it if you came up with some new points and not completely discredited ones. K thnx.

DA:O sold 3.2 million copies in the first 3 months according to an official press release. DA2 never reached those numbers and DA:I probably won't either.

 

Anyway, it would be appreciated if you would actually make a point in your posts instead of just moaning.



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DA:O sold 3.2 million copies in the first 3 months according to an official press release. DA2 never reached those numbers and DA:I probably won't either.

 

Anyway, it would be appreciated if you would actually make a point in your posts instead of just moaning.

 

Inquisitions will easily pass those numbers. Also nice dodging of the point.

 

A point was made in my post whether you want to acknowledge it or not. We'd all appreciate you taking your fingers out of your ears though,



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Long legs > initial strong sales.



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If you mean the Metacritic PC user score then you are obviously trolling. Everyone knows that it's user score is very flawed that you can gave a score of 0 and 10 since release.

Who is talking only about user metacritic scores?

 

BTW, the user metacritic score for DA:O is very good.



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Metacritic user scores are laughed at by the majority of the internet, sales are looking good, Inquisition is on track to win far more GOTY awards than Origins, they're on track to win a ton of Reader's Choice awards which are awarded by the fans, the reception it received was positive and not mixed. 

 

Any other falsehoods or inconsequential statements you want to trot out?

 

Review scores are laughed at, at least player scores are considered mildly.

 

has there been an official sales data release? you know, the definite material to see from the source, or are we going off second hand/third hand stats given out?

 

and putting a shiny button on it doesn't make it any better.



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Review scores are laughed at, at least player scores are considered mildly.

 

has there been an official sales data release? you know, the definite material to see from the source, or are we going off second hand/third hand stats given out?

 

and putting a shiny button on it doesn't make it any better.

 

Not on Metacritic they aren't, they're ridiculed more than the professional reviews. Trolls like to ignore this fact, to the amusement of many.

 

There have been official statements regarding sales. 

 

Fans putting a shiny button on things negates your point regarding "not being received well by customers."



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Inquisitions will easily pass those numbers. Also nice dodging of the point.

 

A point was made in my post whether you want to acknowledge it or not. We'd all appreciate you taking your fingers out of your ears though,

Where is your proof that DA:I will surpass DA:O's numbers? You can't make those claims if you look at chart data. With long legs DA:I could outsell DA:O, but that seems unlikely because of the mixed user reception which will have a negative affect on word of mouth. Not to mention that DA2 already hurt the franchise a lot.

 

Anyway, you're not making any points though, you are just bickering and moaning (about my opinion).



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Who is talking only about user metacritic scores?

 

BTW, the user metacritic score for DA:O is very good.

The PC metacritic user score of DAI is affected by the horrendous pc controls but doesn't mean it's a terrible game and it excells on other areas like the cast of characters, story, visuals, etc. Speaking of visuals, it's not as brown as Origins. 



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Where is your proof that DA:I will surpass DA:Os numbers? 

 

 

And where is your proof it won't? 

 

Furthermore the chart data is being willfully misinterpreted by you, something which has been said over and over. Something you like to ignore though because you only want to look at things which conform to your world view.

 

User reception hasn't been mixed. The positive remarks by users on forums around the webs combined with the numerous GOTY awards (both professionally awarded and awarded by fans) will ensure continuous sales.

 

And a little hypocritical when you talk about others not making any points.


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I should probably post examples of how out of kilter Metacritic is with the rest of the internet.

 

User ratings of Inquisition:

 

Gamefaqs - 1281 reviews at 8.4
IGN - 635 reviews at 9.2
Gamespot - 302 reviews at 7.9
IMDB - 263 reviews at 9.4

 

Gamefaqs PC community rate Inquisition an 8. The IGN PC community rate the game above 9.

 

These are fan ratings, not published reviews. Like I said, Metacritic is a place full of trolls, and it's widely acknowledged as full of trolls.


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I don't know why it still surprises me when irony fails to function on the BSN.

That AP list is interesting, actually. I was pleased to see Valiant Hearts up there.

I wasn't. It seemed like another overpraised game that you can find on newgrounds.com that got praised to the sky cause of the story.



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And where is your proof it won't?

 

You are in-denial about facts. The game outsells both games and there is a data that supported it. It's quite ironic that you're the one who's bickering and moaning that the game will fail because you hate this game.

Nope, there are no absolute numbers. Anyway, chart data and the mixed reception imply that it probably won't outsell DA:O unless the game has very long legs.

 

I'm not sure why you guys claim that DA:I will defintely outsell DA:O althought you don't have any hard data to support that argument.



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Valiant Hearts is actually really good. Wish more games were made like that



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"I'm giving this a 0 because it's the Xbox version PS4 MASTER RACE!" 53 out 167 people found this helpful.  < Actual review I've seen on Metacritic



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Nope, there are no absolute numbers. Anyway, chart data and the mixed reception imply that it probably won't outsell DA:O unless the game has very long legs.

 

 

Chart data implies no such thing. 



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Nope, there are no absolute numbers. Anyway, chart data and the mixed reception imply that it probably won't outsell DA:O unless the game has very long legs.

 

I'm not sure why you guys claim that DA:I will defintely outsell DA:O althought you don't have any hard data to support that argument.

Where is your proof that the game will flop aside from "mixed reception"? None at all.



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A free internet cookie to anyone who can spot WHEN large groups started flooding Metacritic to downvote games.

 

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I should probably post examples of how out of kilter Metacritic is with the rest of the internet.
 
User ratings of Inquisition:
 
Gamefaqs - 1281 reviews at 8.4
IGN - 635 reviews at 9.2
Gamespot - 302 reviews at 7.9
IMDB - 263 reviews at 9.4

 
Gamefaqs PC community rate Inquisition an 8. The IGN PC community rate the game above 9.
 
These are fan ratings, not published reviews. Like I said, Metacritic is a place full of trolls, and it's widely acknowledged as full of trolls.

Mass Effect 3
IMDB 9.2
IGN 9.5
Gamespot 8.4
Gamefaqs 8.3
Average: 8.85
 
Dragon Age 2
IMDB 7.6
IGN 8.1
Gamespot 7.4
Gamefaqs 7.33
Average: 7.6
 
Dragon Age: Inquisition
IMDB 9.4
IGN 9.1
Gamespot 7.9
Gamefaqs 8.4
Average: 8.7

Thanks for proving that your cherry picked sites are full of brainless drones. Not to mention that Metacritic has 3 to 4 times as many user ratings as all of those sites combined.
 
BTW, many games on IMDB  (like Inquisition) actually score higher than any movie ever made too. Hilarious. xD



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A free internet cookie to anyone who can spot WHEN large groups started flooding Metacritic to downvote games.
 
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Awesome games always have bad ratings because of nasty trolls, amirite?
 
BTW, where is your source for this chart? User ratings have indeed dropped over the years because the quality of games has substantially dropped (one of the reason that indies and kickstarters are so popular).
 
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Awesome games always have bad ratings because of nasty trolls, amirite?
 
BTW, where is your source for this chart? User ratings have indeed dropped over the years because the quality of games has substantially dropped (one of the reason that indies and kickstarters are so popular).
 
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Seems like the community and actual reviewers agree that actually good games are, you know, good.



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Mass Effect 3
IMDB 9.2
IGN 9.5
Gamespot 8.4
Gamefaqs 8.3
Average: 8.85
 
Dragon Age 2
IMDB 7.6
IGN 8.1
Gamespot 7.4
Gamefaqs 7.33
Average: 7.6
 
Dragon Age: Inquisition
IMDB 9.4
IGN 9.1
Gamespot 7.9
Gamefaqs 8.4
Average: 8.7

Thanks for proving that your cherry picked sites are full of brainless drones. Not to mention that Metacritic has 3 to 4 times as many user ratings as all of those sites combined.
 
BTW, many games on IMDB  (like Inquisition) actually score higher than any movie ever made too. Hilarious. xD

So you're saying that Metacritic is reliable, you are a genius. It has more trolls than any sites on the internet.



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I just love how people dislike a game.. and then it MUST fail. Like they were personally hurt by Bioware or something and the only chance of ever feeling happiness again is that horrible, horrible game to fail utterly and the company that made it to take a huge blow.

Tragic, really. Spending so much of their time on forums trying to convince people that like the game that it's 'actually, a really, really bad game and you're an idiot for thinking otherwise, because *very personal reasons*'

And ofcourse, the always ridiculous 'alienation of a large portion of the fanbase'. Like they're the spokesperson of all the Bioware game playing people.

Who the hell do YOU think you are?
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#225
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Seems like the community and actual reviewers agree that actually good games are, you know, good.

 

Actually, most RPG fans consider Mass Effect 2 the worst RPG of the series. The trolls flooded Metacritic for Mass Effect 3.

 

I see Dlux is still dismissing every opinion which doesn't agree with him. Pretty amusing seeing him accusing others of "cherry picking".